No, it's really not.
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No, it's really not.
Aye, Dont you just love our 'you score 5 we score 6' mantra on all our european travels?, all these strikers we play under gung ho instrcutions is a real joy to behold.....
He'll be top of the Madrid list now.
I'm guessing that if we were down to 10 men with an hour to play you'd like us to roll over?
It hasn't but its unrealistic to expect things to be done the Fergie way for the rest of eternity. At some point A new manager is going to come in and put his mark on the club. As all potential managers go, Mourinho is by a country mile, the only one with the verve and swagger to continue our era of dominance.
Check out astonishing in a dictionary - this ain't it. There's plenty of people around who are underwhelmed by Inter tonight...
Grow up!
Oh yes it is. Try running a football club that loses for a sustained period of time in today's age.
Typical internet warrior; resorting to petty insults in the face of logical arguments.
What the feck?
My only concern is the job being too much for Moyes, following in Fergie's footsteps is going to be a near on impossible task. Which is why I think Mourinho's the right man. I don't think he'd be around for more than a couple of seasons anyway. . .enough time to groom a longer term successor.
Nah, wed have bought on 4 strikers and played harlom globetrotter stuff and scored 6, under Sir Alex thats all we do you know, we attack no matter who we play home or away....im genuinly surprised we even select a back 4 these days, what with our all out attacking football.....thats our 4-5-1 by the way.....
You prefer mediocrity over winning is it ?
The point is moot, he's not coming here. He is now the most desirable transfer target in the world, and we know where those always end up don't we? Plus, after what he did tonight and his celebration, the Madrid fans are going to love him to bits.
The other factor is: they're in need of a manager now, whereas we might or might not want him after Fergie might or might not retire somewhere in the near or distant future.
The other factor is: they're in need of a manager now, whereas we might or might not want him after Fergie might or might not retire somewhere in the near or distant future.
Moyes 
Actually that kind of football purist thinking doesnt apply to us anymore unfortunately. With our current financial state and the massive fanbase that demands trophies season in and season out, it really is. Also the fact that very fanbase is reponsible for the club still staying afloat financially.
So irrespective of what you or anyone thinks, the bigger issue here (finances) forces us to be successful on the pitch and there's not much room for error.
To all those saying it isn't all about winning.
Yes, it is. And you know it.
Would you rather be like Arsenal? That play beautiful football y'know.
Yes, it is. And you know it.
Would you rather be like Arsenal? That play beautiful football y'know.
It is
Even if he goes to Madrid, he's not likely to stay there for more than a couple of years. He doesn't do well with meddling owners and club executives.
He started with three strikers at the San Siro against Barcelona. If Baldwin can point me to the last time we started 3 strikers in the Champions League semi-final, I'll be hugely surprised.
At the end of the day, I don't care if we go defensive, like we did in 2008, to win an extremely important football match. You can't play attacking, attractive football against everybody. There's a reason Fergie changed his gung-ho attitude in Europe to a more defensive one, because it works. Now, if we play attacking football for the most part of the season, and in a handful of games we have to resort to our defensive strength, is that such a bad thing? Seeing a team defend brilliantly can sometimes be as much fun to watch as an attacking display, our performance over Barcelona over the 2 legs in 2008 fills me with pride because we had the best defence in the world and they showed it. Barca for all their possession created very little.
That's not just the way SAF has done things though, it's ingrained in the identity and culture of the club long before his time.
I think there are a number of intriguing prospects, maybe not the most obvious one will be the best candidate. It's not always the biggest name that is the best fit.
I'm with Baldwin Legend here - I don't know if I could bring myself to get behind Mourinho if he becomes United manager and resorts to spoiling tactics to win games
I know what you're saying and I think it'll be fascinating to see how our board go about replacing SAF.
I'd love to see them stick to their guns and give the job to the right man and then stick by him as we did with Ferguson. We might live in a different era today but I'd love to see our board buck the trend and give the right man enough time.
Mourinho is 47 years old and in around 3 weeks time can match Fergie's Champions League haul, who is 69, and he's a very good chance of completing a treble.
Baldwin, how often do you watch Inter Milan?
Baldwin, how often do you watch Inter Milan?
I know that. My point is that we can't expect all future managers to adhere to the past.
Thanks for finally explaining your reasons for supporting United then.
Jetzt ist alles klar...
Of course its about winning, if you can play star studded football along the way fantastic, but no one remembers 'pretty' losers or the unlucky runners up, its about winning, thats the name of the game, and Mourinhio delivers, hes turned Inter from being european bottle merchants into champions league final favourites in under 2 years.......
But, blanc and Moyes are better of course...........
But, blanc and Moyes are better of course...........
Nah, not going to happen. And I'm not sure the Glazers would give the new man a similar amount of time. Ideally we'd have a number 2 ready to take over a la Paisley at LFC. . .
Moyes
Explain what is so funny about that?
He's proven himself to be an excellent manager under difficult circumstances and a far lesser budget than many of his peers. He also appears good at bringing through younger players and he can get the best our of players and fosters a great team spirit. He's ready for the next step I think, whether or not it's with us, I have no idea.
Yup agreed.....And we havnt started with 3 strikers in any match for nearly 2 years now.....
Moyes
Great post. Are you able to expand or is that the extent of your intelligence?
It's not about the reason why I support United, not in the slightes way.
It's about how professional football works. It's about winning games, with every possible way.
Would you rather be Wenger's Arsenal or Mourinho's Chelsea/Inter?
Yay let's get Jose in.
Rooney will dive like Drogba.
Vidic will dive like Lucio.
VDS will take 5 minutes before kicking the ball.
Our manager will be least respected amongst fellow managers.
Our great manager will leave us the minute he gets bored and what's a new challenge.
Rooney will dive like Drogba.
Vidic will dive like Lucio.
VDS will take 5 minutes before kicking the ball.
Our manager will be least respected amongst fellow managers.
Our great manager will leave us the minute he gets bored and what's a new challenge.
I'd rather have Wenger at the helm.
He hasn't proven much to be fair. He managed a 4th place finish one year for which he deserves credit, but he also finished very poorly in two of his years at Everton, all of which isn't even remotely tantamount to being qualified to replace Fergie.
It's not what I asked!
I rather be Fergie's United.
We manage to do beautiful football with trophies. We don't need to start playing like Jose's teams.
The fun we have supporting United is because of our never say die attitude and our will to win.
When Jose gets here his number one priority in a match will be to make sure we don't lose. Winning comes a distant second.
3 Strikers? Hardly.
Pandev is hardly an out and out striker to begin with, and both he and Eto'o were playing as wingers.
Then he's got two strictly defensive midfielders in Cambiasso and Motta just in front of the back 4 a la Benitez's Liverpool.
Ferguson playing the likes of Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez/Berbatov in the same line-up is a far more attacking prospect.
But then again, you consider Arjen Robben to be an out and out winger, so I shouldn't try and argue with your views on tactics...
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