Yes he is and yes he does. Great debate.
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Yes he is and yes he does. Great debate.
Very surprised to see how underrated he is on here. He went through some Inconsistent periods sure but he was very solid at times for us. Short memories
Would be a good purchase for them. Hope he doesn't go.
Did you watch him last season at all? By far WBA's best player. He had a poor end to his career at Utd but you can't discount some of the very good performances he had for Utd previous to that. He needed a move, he has been superb since then and deserves another chance at a top 4 club. He has also been consistently superb for his country. To suggest he always makes mistake is just total nonsense.
Of course he's close, those two at times have been terribly inconsistent and error prone much like Johnny was when he was here.
He was terrible under van Gaal, but that was more down to him not being able to adapt to van Gaal's eccentric tactics more than anything else. I consider him a level below Jones, which means average, but definitely not completely hopeless. He can "do a job" just like Jones and Smalling do in our squad
If someone said our one centre back signing of the summer would be Jonny Evans this place would go into meltdown.
I don't understand how this signing can worry anyone.
I don't understand how this signing can worry anyone.
There's nothing better than hearing rivals being unable to sign world class defenders.
I hope they do sign him.
He left us when by his own admission he'd become terrible. Its strange indeed that anyone is trying to claim it was a mistake to sell him. He has my utmost respect for rebuilding his reputation at West Brom. He was always talented but with us he never lived up to it fully. IMO he looks ready for a big team again. Even if as a squad player.
He was good under Fergie and had more good games than bad.
Just because the idiot that followed Fergie and the attritive moron who then followed that idiot, managed to get most of the team playing awful, doesn't make him as bad as some posts here would have you think. He's obviously not world class, but he's actually a solid defender.
Just because the idiot that followed Fergie and the attritive moron who then followed that idiot, managed to get most of the team playing awful, doesn't make him as bad as some posts here would have you think. He's obviously not world class, but he's actually a solid defender.
Him and Stones together would be a disaster.
Don't see why people are so bothered by this. Baldy is making yet another poor CB signing.
I've not missed him. In fact I was glad we sold him. He's really not 'top club' level.
It's quite amazing how Evans last night turned into a world class defender according to certain Journalists, and how crazy we were to sell him, when it was obvious he is class.
Absolute shitehouses the lot of them
Absolute shitehouses the lot of them
Actually, me too. I used to love him, and I still like him, but he just ain't good enough. The thing that triggered me about him is how softly he hits the ball when playing a pass, and I see some of the same in Mkhitaryan from time to time. When Miki does it, the ball don't go through and it's just a lost opportunity, but when Evans did it, we ended up in real trouble!
Wouldn't mind him and Stones in the City defence, press high and you win.
Jonny Evans was an excellent player for United but ridiculed on this forum. Solid, dependable, good in the air and quick plus he loved the club. He would be a good acquisition for City and I'm sure would prove a few of the doubters wrong.
The thing that irked me the most was how much time he took on the ball before releasing it, and how he always looked to put the blame on other players whenever it was his mistake.
This.
The blame game is never charming. This probably belongs in the unpopular opinion thread, but I never liked RvP for the same reason. Both at Arsenal and here, he would always, right or wrong, show discontent for his teammates. However, Evans did have a period where the caf slaughtered him unfairly, with Rio going through his transition, and he did cover alot for his mistakes.
The blame game is never charming. This probably belongs in the unpopular opinion thread, but I never liked RvP for the same reason. Both at Arsenal and here, he would always, right or wrong, show discontent for his teammates. However, Evans did have a period where the caf slaughtered him unfairly, with Rio going through his transition, and he did cover alot for his mistakes.
Edit: Sorry for posting this twice. I'm on a bus, driving besides Norways beautiful fjords. Unfortunately the internet connection here is horrible, so now I wasted my last post for the day by pressing post twice.
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Yes, if we would have resigned him people would be very underwhelmed. That doesn't mean he won't improve City. This is their problem area and he's a very experienced Premiership defender who will no doubt improve them. I'd much rather they spunk 60m upwards on someone unproven in the Prem...
But from his position, it's a no brainer, of course he should join them.
I don't think he really improves them at all, but that's my opinion. He'll make little to no difference to that team.
Despite him playing most of the minutes of the pitch with Vidic when we went through that record run of minutes without conceding, my overriding memory of Johnny Evans is that Fergie conference where he says to his then girlfriend to 'Tie him down dear'. He is clearly a talented defender, he was head and shoulders above any Sunderland defender when they were playing in the championship in Roy Keane's first season as a manager despite being 18 years old. He has played consistently well for NI as a left back and a center back. You don't get 100+ games for United if you are not really good. He had stalled towards the end, but has rebuilt his reputation at WBA. It's not controversial to say that he's probably the best defender ever at WBA and in their history, they had some good defenders.
Good luck Johnny Evans, not sure if he is suited to City though.
Good luck Johnny Evans, not sure if he is suited to City though.
I'm confused with this one. Pep likes defenders who can pass with confidence. From what I remember of Evans, under LvG, he used to panic on the ball and was not even able to handle random long balls. Pep will be even more demanding. I don't know whether Evans can handle that.
Next to Stones or Kompany he can be that defender who covers them. They don't need 10 outfield players that can play total football. What they'd also get is someone with authority who likes to organise those around him (not that he's some supreme leader, but they've not really got any of those bar Kompany).
When you play 3 at the back, you can't really require all 3 of your CBs to be elite on the ball.
Not fussed. I hope WBA hold up to 35m and City sign him on August 31
18m?? How much did we sell him for? Prolly a low single digit number isnt it?
Does his wife still work for MUTV?
Evans was/is absolute woeful in 3 at back. People talk as if defenders in 3 at back system would be allowed to sit inside their own box the whole game & offered protection. It's not the case, and with Pep we know for sure how little support his defender was exposed to.
Evans has passing technique & vision, but he's slow on his feet & his thought, so being pressed requiring quick thinking, it can easily turn to disaster. Evans may be a better defender than John Stones, but he's slower & not a leader neither. This is like going sideways IMO.
I am not sure about his fitness record at WBA, but he was injured a lot during his time with us. WBA for most part only play once per week. Playing in many different competitions again, I think Evans' injury problem would reoccur.
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£8 million I believe.
I remember him being fine on the ball. He was always comfortable taking it past strikers, but doesn't have an incisive pass afterwards. He would take it past strikers then turn and pass it backwards.
Shock as poster realises transfer fees have increased greatly this season.
I'm sure I recall people excusing Evans being gash by blaming his travails on van Gaal's 'unfamiliar' three at the back system that our CB's at the time didn't have the nouse to master. If Guardiola thinks Evans can fit into that system for City, he'd better get used to a good view of Evans looking exasperated with his colleagues as he seeks to apportion the blame for his own inadequacy.
Evans looks ok in a side constructed by the defensive minded Pulis, with no great level of expectation and playing usually just once a week. This helps him avoid the knocks, strains,niggles etc that he frequently picked up. At a club with the burden of expectation that City now carry, his shortcomings would, I feel, be quickly revealed and exploited.
We've thankfully moved on from Moyes and van Gaal and the lame and the halt have -largely- been shown the door.
If Evans goes to City, good luck to him - he'll need it, but I don't lose sleep that he's no longer a Manchester United player.
Evans looks ok in a side constructed by the defensive minded Pulis, with no great level of expectation and playing usually just once a week. This helps him avoid the knocks, strains,niggles etc that he frequently picked up. At a club with the burden of expectation that City now carry, his shortcomings would, I feel, be quickly revealed and exploited.
We've thankfully moved on from Moyes and van Gaal and the lame and the halt have -largely- been shown the door.
If Evans goes to City, good luck to him - he'll need it, but I don't lose sleep that he's no longer a Manchester United player.
Apart from Kompany (when he's fit) he's probably a better defender than their other centre backs - he's been very good since he left United. Problem is he's often injured himself so not great cover for Kompany in that respect.
This is a fecking weird one. Looked class on top form, but how many players have made the jump from big team to relegation fodder, then back?
£35m will make me laugh/weep.
£35m will make me laugh/weep.
VG laid all the foundations for evans career the past few years, oh wait he sold him lol
I never seen anyone mentioning Evans as good defender after he left us, nor i saw insulting comments towards LvG for selling him. Now,suddenly City had their bid rejected and out of nowhere people rating Evans highly as defender, insulting LvG for selling him. Also media trying to paint him as some kinda world class defender even they rarely praised him since leaving United, this place is really something else.
Sure, but we do sell players for shit money.
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