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Yep we need a player with low centre of gravity and tight dribbling to get through deep defences.

The kick and run works against teams who will give us space but we struggle against the deeper line.


Players like Malcom should be able to work the tight areas better, let’s wait and see. We really need some reinforcements to give us a bit of life back.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Yep we need a player with low centre of gravity and tight dribbling to get through deep defences.

The kick and run works against teams who will give us space but we struggle against the deeper line.


Players like Malcom should be able to work the tight areas better, let’s wait and see. We really need some reinforcements to give us a bit of life back.
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Agreed. But can't be a youngster like Malcom who will need time.
 
mav_9me said:
Agreed. But can't be a youngster like Malcom who will need time.
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French league players usually adapt pretty fast, I have no worries about that.

Anyway I’m not pinning all our hopes on him, but this team needs a bit of energy back.
 
IronCroos37 said:
buy him, buy him, buy him.
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Why? Mourinho doesn't have a great record at nurturing and developing young players and he is far more comfortable working with the finished products (milito, eto'o, zanetti, materazzi, samuel etc) - so why add unproven talents to the roster? If we're persisting with Jose, just give him what he wants (Perisic?) rather than trying to unearth the next Ronaldo (Malcom, Sessegnon etc).
 
Adam-Utd said:
Yep we need a player with low centre of gravity and tight dribbling to get through deep defences.

The kick and run works against teams who will give us space but we struggle against the deeper line.


Players like Malcom should be able to work the tight areas better, let’s wait and see. We really need some reinforcements to give us a bit of life back.
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I wouldn't really say that describes Malcom though from what I've seen. If we're looking for a pure dribbler then mahrez seems the obvious choice. Malcolm seems more like a young mata with a touch more pace.
 
Suedesi said:
Why? Mourinho doesn't have a great record at nurturing and developing young players and he is far more comfortable working with the finished products (milito, eto'o, zanetti, materazzi, samuel etc) - so why add unproven talents to the roster? If we're persisting with Jose, just give him what he wants (Perisic?) rather than trying to unearth the next Ronaldo (Malcom, Sessegnon etc).
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Malcolm is the same age Robben was when he signed for Chelsea.
 
the unknown one. said:
Watched the full game he played away at PSG earlier in the season just now.

Looked absolutely woeful, like a tiny weaker version of Memphis.

Mahrez is so much better it would be astonishing if we pursued Malcom instead.
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This was his personal highlights against PSG:

Maybe lacked goal threat in this game, but he looked to have had a pretty solid game. Very tidy in possession, created a few chances for his team mates to mess up and scored a goal. Far from woeful imo. Also given that he's by far Bordeaux's biggest goal threat, he was double marked for large parts of the game, which in part explains why he didn't cause more problems for the PSG defenders.
 
the unknown one. said:
Watched the full game he played away at PSG earlier in the season just now.

Looked absolutely woeful, like a tiny weaker version of Memphis.

Mahrez is so much better it would be astonishing if we pursued Malcom instead.
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That's pretty much story of what we do in every transfer window.
 
Think Malcom is the one that Mourinho prefers. He and Ozil would add more spice up front, but I would prefer Dybala to Ozil.
 
pocco said:
I reckon he'll have some posters eating their words again.
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I would happily eat my words if he turns into a real asset for us but I have my doubts like I had with Memphis before we signed him.
 
You never know until you see how they respond to the weight of wearing the red shirt. Some love it and others hate the pressure that comes with it. All down to the lads mentality.....
 
I’m in the ‘doesn’t look that impressive based on YouTube’ camp. That said, we are allegedly also after a ‘marquee’ forward in the summer, and if we are generally trying to improve the squad quality, replacing some underperformers - then I’m all for it. Just not convinced he’s ‘the one’.
 
pocco said:
I reckon he'll have some posters eating their words again.
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If he delivers I'm sure most would be happy to eat said words, but lets be realistic, Martial and Rashford are struggling to be consistent and perform under the United spotlight n this team and they are used to the PL, expecting a one footed 19 year old from a weaker league to come in and change this team is a bit of a flight of fancy.
 
Devil may care said:
If he delivers I'm sure most would be happy to eat said words, but lets be realistic, Martial and Rashford are struggling to be consistent and perform under the United spotlight n this team and they are used to the PL, expecting a one footed 19 year old from a weaker league to come in and change this team is a bit of a flight of fancy.
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You could say the same for Pulisic though.
 
the unknown one. said:
Watched the full game he played away at PSG earlier in the season just now.

Looked absolutely woeful, like a tiny weaker version of Memphis.

Mahrez is so much better it would be astonishing if we pursued Malcom instead.
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I haven’t seen much of Malcom, so I’m not saying you’re wrong, but surely you can’t come to this conclusion based on one single game?
 
Devil may care said:
If he delivers I'm sure most would be happy to eat said words, but lets be realistic, Martial and Rashford are struggling to be consistent and perform under the United spotlight n this team and they are used to the PL, expecting a one footed 19 year old from a weaker league to come in and change this team is a bit of a flight of fancy.
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I dont think anyone single handedly expects him to change the team. But flair players like Malcolm will help our overall play. If he is turns out to be good, then even little things help like dragging two players with him to the byline will give our midfielders more room to operate or help our RB provide overlapping runs. We just need something different down the wings because thats where our main threat is coming from. He seems to be quick, can cut in and shoot and can be a bit unpredictable like Martial. Seeing him play that way could give confidence to the other players to perform better. With him being quick, it can help with our counter attacking play as well. His impact could be in those ways rather than scoring 20 goals and assisting 15.
 
Mcking said:
You could say the same for Pulisic though.
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Of course, you know I think Pulisic is a far superior player with a lot more in his game, but any U21 player joining us in mid-season is going to find it a hard change of pace with a lot of pressure, even a more established player like Dybala is unlikely to just slide in with no adaption period needed.

RDCR07 said:
I dont think anyone single handedly expects him to change the team. But flair players like Malcolm will help our overall play. If he is turns out to be good, then even little things help like dragging two players with him to the byline will give our midfielders more room to operate or help our RB provide overlapping runs. We just need something different down the wings because thats where our main threat is coming from. He seems to be quick, can cut in and shoot and can be a bit unpredictable like Martial. Seeing him play that way could give confidence to the other players to perform better. With him being quick, it can help with our counter attacking play as well. His impact could be in those ways rather than scoring 20 goals and assisting 15.
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My doubts about his quality aside he might well eventually offer that, I think the fact he's a bit one dimensional makes it less likely but you never know, I'm just saying that he's not likely to be an immediate answer to anything, a 19 year old from another league at mid-seasons is a long term buy, not a direct fix.
 
Devil may care said:
Of course, you know I think Pulisic is a far superior player with a lot more in his game, but any U21 player joining us in mid-season is going to find it a hard change of pace with a lot of pressure, even a more established player like Dybala is unlikely to just slide in with no adaption period needed.



My doubts about his quality aside he might well eventually offer that, I think the fact he's a bit one dimensional makes it less likely but you never know, I'm just saying that he's not likely to be an immediate answer to anything, a 19 year old from another league at mid-seasons is a long term buy, not a direct fix.
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I think buying young and building for the future is the way to go. Its always been the United way as well. Buying short term looking for an immediate fix hasnt really worked out. RVP is the last ST answer that actually worked. Look I am not saying he is the next big thing but maybe he could have a Salah effect for us.
 
United Pro said:
This was his personal highlights against PSG:

Maybe lacked goal threat in this game, but he looked to have had a pretty solid game. Very tidy in possession, created a few chances for his team mates to mess up and scored a goal. Far from woeful imo. Also given that he's by far Bordeaux's biggest goal threat, he was double marked for large parts of the game, which in part explains why he didn't cause more problems for the PSG defenders.
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From watching the highlights, he seems very reliant on the fullback overlapping.
 
RDCR07 said:
I think buying young and building for the future is the way to go. Its always been the United way as well. Buying short term looking for an immediate fix hasnt really worked out. RVP is the last ST answer that actually worked. Look I am not saying he is the next big thing but maybe he could have a Salah effect for us.
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I have nothing against buying young talent, but the question mark is over the fact that developing young attackers is not the forte of our current manager hence him buying the likes of Mkhitaryan, bringing in Ibra and wanting Perisic. There's also the fact that we are already behind City in general, Malcom as a rotation back-up to blood in under an established player would make more sense.
 
No idea but our history of these types of signings isn't good. Whilst I like youth, we need proven PL quality and bring youth into a winning established team later on.....
 
I don't believe Jose will be able to develop this 20 year old.
We need a more mature player for 2 reasons:
1, instant impact & consistency
2, Jose prefers and works better with players who are in their absolute prime. We need a winger (or 2) in the mid to late 20s.
Malcom would be a good player to buy if LVG was in charge.
 
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Mcking said:
You could say the same for Pulisic though.
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True, but from what I've seen of the two players, I'd take Pulisic over Malcom every day of the week. The kid is fearless and plays big in big games.
 
Malcom wasn’t even that impressive in Corinthians. Like, he was a solid player but not a starter. I think he’s a guy with a lower ceiling but consistent. A guy like Richarlison has bigger ups but lower downs, and is too similar to Rashford. I’m not sure Malcom is the guy to make United take that step forward.
 
bebeanderson said:
Malcom wasn’t even that impressive in Corinthians. Like, he was a solid player but not a starter. I think he’s a guy with a lower ceiling but consistent. A guy like Richarlison has bigger ups but lower downs, and is too similar to Rashford. I’m not sure Malcom is the guy to make United take that step forward.
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He doesn't have to be really, he just needs to play RW and make us less predictable and shite to watch :lol:
 
GledTheRed said:
He doesn't have to be really, he just needs to play RW and make us less predictable and shite to watch :lol:
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I think results are more important. You can have good players without them being "predictable".
 
Chong will probably end up the better player. Should get a top experienced player like Griezmann or Mahrez with Chong to be long term replacement.
 
OohAahMartial said:
Chong will probably end up the better player. Should get a top experienced player like Griezmann or Mahrez with Chong to be long term replacement.
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Chong is very borderline IMO. Greenwood looks a far better prospect at right wing.
 
Realistically we're going to need to bring in a forward/attacking midfielder since mkhitaryan needs replacing. If we can get a decent up and coming player like malcom in then that's a problem solved. If mkhitaryan isn't replaced and its just rashford, martial, lingard and mata til the end of the season then we're in trouble. There really won't be that many quality forwards available in January.
 
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