Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire

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Not normally arsed about transfer fees, but signing him on the back of a season at Leicester and an okay World Cup for £65m would sum us up at the moment.

What’s the point in a scouting team if you wait a year and sign them for 4/5 times the price? Hope we are looking elsewhere and this is perhaps putting some pressure on another deal that might’ve stalled.
 
This smells like Morata all over again...we make our chasing of our back-up target very public while going after our primary target on the down low.
 
I've been a big critic of his on here and I stand by my comments saying he's a potential liability when comes to defending on the ground, but the thought of him attacking our every set piece is very exciting.
 
65 million seems to be our CB budget.
IIRC that's what allegedly we bid for Alderweireld and Skriniar
 
Can’t see it happening. Leicester will hold out like they did for Mahrez. Why are we doing this so late when we could have got it done before the World Cup and Leicester could find a replacement? We must be doing this based on his World Cup. Well, that’s almost certain given that the same player was for sale at £17m last season.

Why do we even have a scouting system?
 
Offside said:
Can’t see it happening. Leicester will hold out like they did for Mahrez. Why are we doing this so late when we could have got it done before the World Cup and Leicester could find a replacement? We must be doing this based on his World Cup. Well, that’s almost certain given that the same player was for sale at £17m last season.

Why do we even have a scouting system?
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Our scouting team recommended Bailly and Lindelof
 
Sanche7 said:
Ermm 30 mill each for Jones and Rojo isn't too much to ask IMO.
Jones is a full international, massively experienced at the highest level, still young for a CB and when fit a pretty good CB. He has his fitness issues but being English, surely he is worth 30 million. Fecking Keane was sold for 25-30 million

Rojo is an Argentina international. Again he is a good CB, maynot be WC, but he would be pretty good for a mid table squad
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I think you're being optimistic with your valuations. And again, who is going to buy them? There has been zero interest reported in either this window.
 
SirAF said:
The season could be over by then. If they need a new CB then it would be madness to wait six months.
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More like 4 months and also I don't see the pressing need for a CB that we are about to spend 65 million pounds on one
 
this is fecking bananas if true. £65m minimum for Maguire? Christ.

Maybe the board and Mourinho are genuinely just useless because if they're doing this based on his world cup performances then god help us.
 
United Pro said:
It looks like Sky Sports are copying what other sources are saying. Also, why would we let it be known that we value Maguire at £65m? Leicester hear that and they'll just increase their own valuation. Sounds off to me.
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Does seem a bit fishy.
 
Not convinced he is a significantly better player than what we already have, price is ridiculous of course and have to question why only interested in him now. But he does have a lot of potential if he is given time and allowed to develop.

At least he will improve improve the distribution from the back of he does sign which is currently awful. Assume he will hand in a transfer request to push move through as he might not get the opportunity again and it’s only way Leicester will sell.
 
Offside said:
Can’t see it happening. Leicester will hold out like they did for Mahrez. Why are we doing this so late when we could have got it done before the World Cup and Leicester could find a replacement?
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They have their captain Wes Morgan and have just bought Jonny Evans. That's the partnership if Maguire goes.
 
If £65m can’t convince Leicester to part with Maguire, then there’s probably not too much point spunking all our cash away this window. Given how little time clubs have to get transfers done (new deadline, World Cup), this is essentially like a January window.
 
AltiUn said:
Does seem a bit fishy.
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Yeah, there's no way we'd be this vocal about it. We've literally briefed most of the biggest English papers that we're interested in Maguire. It just doesn't fit in with how we've briefed journos in recent years.

I think we're still in for Alderweireld.
 
It is beyond me, how such a big company as our club is being so badly managed in its primary department. All I see is chaos, and a total lack of a direction in our transfer policy. I am baffled as to what our scouts are doing. £65m for a guy after an okay season, and a good World Cup run is pure madness. I absolutely don’t think that he would be that much of an upgrade of what we have currently. Yes, I know that the market is just crazy these days, but I’d rather we focus on a better defender (ie. Alderweireld)
 
If he was indeed a real deal, then what actually the Scouts are doing these days?

Strongly feel its just paper talk though. We work on Multiple targets at a time and he could be amongst the Mix. But that price is ridiculous.
 
MooseTheMooche said:
It is beyond me, how such a big company as our club is being so badly managed in its primary department. All I see is chaos, and a total lack of a direction in our transfer policy. I am baffled as to what our scouts are doing. £65m for a guy after an okay season, and a good World Cup run is pure madness. I absolutely don’t think that he would be that much of an upgrade of what we have currently. Yes, I know that the market is just crazy these days, but I’d rather we focus on a better defender (ie. Alderweireld)
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Have you been living under a rock or something?
We bid for Alderweireld, we bid upto 60 or 65 million
But Levy wants us to pay 75 million for a player who will be available for 25 next year Either that or a deal involving Martial
 
United Pro said:
Yeah, there's no way we'd be this vocal about it. We've literally briefed most of the biggest English papers that we're interested in Maguire. It just doesn't fit in with how we've briefed journos in recent years.

I think we're still in for Alderweireld.
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This, I think/hope that all of this is just a negotiation tactic
 
Sanche7 said:
Have you been living under a rock or something?
We bid for Alderweireld, we bid upto 60 or 65 million
But Levy wants us to pay 75 million for a player who will be available for 25 next year Either that or a deal involving Martial
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The last time I checked the transfer info, i haven’t seen nothing about Levy wanting 75million for Alderweireld. The only thing that I read was about us backing off from the deal, and that was when we were offering £55m for him.
 
I rated Maguire back when he was at Hull and he's come on a lot but 65m? I'd rather we spent that on our blunt attack.
 
Good player, but I really don't like the idea of signing players on the back of international tournament performances - more often than not the buyer ends up getting fleeced.
 
MooseTheMooche said:
The last time I checked the transfer info, i haven’t seen nothing about Levy wanting 75million for Alderweireld. The only thing that I read was about us backing off from the deal, and that was when we were offering £55m for him.
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There were many reports sighting the 75 mill or Martial demand Levy had. Even 55 is more than a good offer for a player who is nearly 30,with a few injuries and with 1 year left in his contract
 
Offside said:
Can’t see it happening. Leicester will hold out like they did for Mahrez. Why are we doing this so late when we could have got it done before the World Cup and Leicester could find a replacement? We must be doing this based on his World Cup. Well, that’s almost certain given that the same player was for sale at £17m last season.

Why do we even have a scouting system?
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Do you think we spend €50m> having never watched a player?
 
Agree with a few in here, who said this is a smoke screen for another player. Look at how specific that article is. Why would we say we value a player for a certain amount...especially a player who went for £17m the year before!

I truly believe either TA or Godin are on the radar!
 
It's good that the club has its priorities in order anyway. It's not like we need a right winger, a backup striker, a left-back, and a right-back, so sure, let's spend a shitload of money on a CB when we already have five of them, including two who our manager already spent £75m getting.
 
Offside said:
Why do we even have a scouting system?
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Teams like Leicester are our scouting system, and rightly so, Hull got him for about 3m, Leicester paid Hull 17m, we will pay over 50m. Leicester will raid a smaller club and overpay for someone else.
 
Personally I think Maguire would be a good signing reminds me of vidic in the way he plays...he’s a good age and very comfortable with ball at his feet good height and not afraid of putting his body on the line...think his World Cup has just highlighted his ability to be honest, would be an astute signing who has the chance to improve...something we’ve been lacking in that department for a few years now
 
Oldyella said:
If we do go for him, hopefully we move both Jones and Rojo on. Neither are good enough and have enough fitness issues that they can't even be relied upon as cover. Maguire Smalling and Lindelof are generally ok fitness wise and ample if we are playing a back 4 with Bailly when fit as well. Not counting the younger CBs if they don't go on loan.
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Yeah I’d be good with Jones AND Rojo both sold as even though a fully fit on form Jones is one of best centre backs in the league those days are too rare. Smalling is usually fit as is Lindelof whilst a Bailly/Maguire partnership could be great.
 
Maguire is a good stopper, but he has a playing style that suits a packed relegation team more than a supposed top team. Sure he has some patience on the ball and can actually pass it to a team-mate, but he is first and foremost and good warrior and header of the ball. Fearless when the ball is in the ball, wins lots of headers every game, great asset for a bottom team being bombarded for 90 minutes.

Top teams need smart defenders, like Rio who knows where the ball is going to go before the pass is made. Calm, in control, great tackling when needed. Maguire is slow and reactionary, has never played for a top backline and will struggle at United in my opinion. In the WC he looked like any other player when facing a top team and England let in goals.

I like him, he is a tough bastard, but he will not make us particularly better and be the kind of player that charges us towards the gold. Not even close, and feck that figure quoted for him.
 
Not my first choice but he is good on the ball, he is quite commanding, he is experienced for his age and he is very good on set-pieces.

He will strengthen us - and we need someone simply to lift the mood.
 
Paying 65m for him will prove that the board has no problem spending. It's where we're spending this money is the problem.

Anyway, Maguire will be a big upgrade over Smalling as he can do everything the latter can do, and will hopefully save us from watching Jones and Rojo again for most time.

However, spending all this money on him will mean we will probably end up not signing another big player. I have a strong feeling that's the last of our summer business so we're raising the offer to something like this.

Hopefully I'm just pessimistic.
 
I'm not going to say Maguire wouldn't improve our defence, but buying him for £65m would sum up how shambolic our scouting and recruitment is. We could have bought him for peanuts only a year ago. It's not an isolated case either. It happens every single season. Clubs with really good scouting networks snap up highly rated talents, and then a year or two later we inevitably want them, and then we're forced to pay 5x more.

We spend so much money but we don't invest it wisely at all. We either overpay or we buy the wrong players. It's a running theme for the last God knows how many years
 
el3mel said:
Paying 65m for him will prove that the board has no problem spending. It's where we're spending this money is the problem.

Anyway, Maguire will be a big upgrade over Smalling as he can do everything the latter can do, and will hopefully save us from watching Jones and Rojo again for most time.

However, spending all this money on him will mean we will probably end up not signing another big player. I have a strong feeling that's the last of our summer business so we're raising the offer to something like this.

Hopefully I'm just pessimistic.
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Hate to break it to you, but Smalling will play most games he is available for. If we get another CB in, then theyll partner him.
 
Delighted if we are in for him.

He'll improve our transitions from the back vastly. People completely under-rate how valuable the ability to play the ball from the back is nowadays.
 
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