Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire

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None of our CBs bar possibly Lindelof look remotely comfortable bringing the ball into midfield. Maguire excels at this. Against a team that is sitting back that is exactly what you need to do.
I think he'd be brilliant here. Sell Jones & Rojo and buy Maguire.
CBs for the season would then be: Bailly, Maguire, Lindeloff, Smalling + TFM in case of emergencies. That would be enough imo.
 
I rate this guy to be fair. I’ve been talking him up on here for ages. Shame it takes a value-doubling tournament for our Scouts to notice him but hey. As well as the “body on the line” defensive qualities, he is really good at coming forward with the ball and great at set pieces. I think he will bring some much needed leadership qualities into our back line as well. Not the only player we need but would be a good start.
 
I didn't think we'd get him a few weeks back, but now with all the links saying we're interested I'm going to be disappointed if we don't sign him now, or worse he goes to a rival.
 
When ever I got the chance to see him play he impressed me, perhaps it's his size that is misleading but this guy can run with the ball quite fast, taking it from back to middle and sometimes further with ease... I'm saying misleading as in smaller player seem faster to the eye. He's been solid in defence and good on the ball.

Only thing I'm not sure on is how consistant he is and can he take his game up a step or two. It's not that I haven't seen more then a handful of his games, but watching game by game would give me a better understanding, and only such a sample I (and probably a lot of people) have had so far was the WC England games, and he was really good. There is also the fact that his age is still young for a defender and there is space for improvement.
 
I think he had a fantastic World Cup. By my reckoning he was England's best CB. He was excellent as a ball playing CB and good in the air as well. Of course, he has a few weaknesses, but on the whole I think he'll do well here.
 
Let's face it, our centre back options are so limited it is bordering on negligence.
 
Which current CB would you guys want to sell first in order to sanction the Maguire deal?

It would be Jones for me.
 
Alfie092 said:
Which current CB would you guys want to sell first in order to sanction the Maguire deal?

It would be Jones for me.
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Probably Jones, he has runs of decent form but the odd brainfart here and there is so costly. Not to mention he's injury prone.

Smalling's consistently been our best CB despite his shortcomings, Lindelof deserves another season after showing promise at the World Cup and Bailly, while injury prone, has shown that he can be very good for us. Rojo's a close second behind Jones. He's okay but he should be close to or at his peak by now, we need better than okay.
 
Alfie092 said:
Which current CB would you guys want to sell first in order to sanction the Maguire deal?

It would be Jones for me.
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In terms of play style, replacing Jones for Maguire makes sense. Overall, I rate Jones as a better CB than Rojo though (but the latter can fill in at LB if needed).
 
Reminds me of Lucio - great at bursting forward with the ball and dominant in the air, while sometimes being clumsy and slow.
 
Alfie092 said:
Which current CB would you guys want to sell first in order to sanction the Maguire deal?

It would be Jones for me.
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Flip a coin between Jones and Rojo for me.

As for CB I think i’d Rather McGuire than Boateng, and it’s a bit of a toss up between Alderweireld and McGuire.
 
Alfie092 said:
Which current CB would you guys want to sell first in order to sanction the Maguire deal?

It would be Jones for me.
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Rojo then Jones but ideally both.

Maguire, Bailly, Smalling, Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Fosu Mensah would be enough cover
 
I'd rather Maguire than Alderweireld simply because at least Maguire can stay fit. I do think he'd be a good addition to the team but I don't see him being that much better than Smalling/Bailley. I just can't fathom why center back is being targeted over fullbacks or a right winger.

I do think Jones and Rojo absolutely need to leave though so if this helps to facilitate either of those then I guess it makes some sense.
 
We should take Maguire and offer them Lindelof/Fosu-Mensah-Tuanzebe on loan.
 
Hoboman said:
Reminds me of Lucio - great at bursting forward with the ball and dominant in the air, while sometimes being clumsy and slow.
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If he keeps his switch to green he is always fast and makes everyone around him fast as well.
 
Is everyone just going to ignore that England's biggest problem at the world cup was our centrebacks being poor both defensively and with the ball?

Why do people think that taking 5+ touches to play a simple pass makes you good with the ball as opposed to bad with It?
 
padzilla said:
Let's face it, our centre back options are so limited it is bordering on negligence.
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We have five.

Jose spent £70m combined on two of them.

But, forget it, not like we need a right-winger, a left-back, a right-back, or a backup for Lukaku. Let's spend a shit-tonne of money on another CB who had a semi-decent world cup.
 
noodlehair said:
Is everyone just going to ignore that England's biggest problem at the world cup was our centrebacks being poor both defensively and with the ball?

Why do people think that taking 5+ touches to play a simple pass makes you good with the ball as opposed to bad with It?
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Not Kane playing as a midfielder?
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Flip a coin between Jones and Rojo for me.

As for CB I think i’d Rather McGuire than Boateng, and it’s a bit of a toss up between Alderweireld and McGuire.
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I think it's worth nothing that, although Alderwiereld is the more advanced of the two in practically every department, Mcguire is only going to improve whilst Toby will at best maintain his current level (which is not what it once was based on last season alone) or simply regress.

Besides, isn't the "United Way" to catch them on the up and groom them into the player we wish them to be?
 
Jones and Rojo have both proven to be a fitness liability. I'm not sure whether Jose doesn't trust the Lindelof/Bailly partnership. It's not been great but honestly they've not been given enough chances to play together and work on it. Saying that I'd take Maguire over our current crop every time!
 
Would he work in a back 3 of

Bailly Maguire Lindelof?

I appreciate we'd need also a LWB if we went this way.


But with no further signings perhaps

DDG​

Lindelof Bailly Maguire​
Valencia -----------------------------------Young​

Fred Matic Pogba​


Lingard Lukaku Sanchez​


That looks pretty good to me
 
Random Task said:
I think it's worth nothing that, although Alderwiereld is the more advanced of the two in practically every department, Mcguire is only going to improve whilst Toby will at best maintain his current level (which is not what it once was based on last season alone) or simply regress.

Besides, isn't the "United Way" to catch them on the up and groom them into the player we wish them to be?
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That was my thinking in it all. Toby is good to go, Maguire you would hope is only going to improve. I know many won’t think it but the Lindelof I saw at Benfica has a lot of similarities in his game to Alderweireld, just obviously not at Toby’s Current level.
 
GaryLifo said:
Would he work in a back 3 of

Bailly Maguire Lindelof?

I appreciate we'd need also a LWB if we went this way.


But with no further signings perhaps

DDG​

Lindelof Bailly Maguire​
Valencia -----------------------------------Young​

Fred Matic Pogba​


Lingard Lukaku Sanchez​


That looks pretty good to me
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Fullbacks are not good enough attacking wise, especially Valencia, and Lingard plays much better as number 10/ss.
Other than that I agree that 5-3-2 is the best formation for our current set of players.
 
GaryLifo said:
Would he work in a back 3 of

Bailly Maguire Lindelof?

I appreciate we'd need also a LWB if we went this way.


But with no further signings perhaps

DDG​

Lindelof Bailly Maguire​
Valencia -----------------------------------Young​

Fred Matic Pogba​


Lingard Lukaku Sanchez​


That looks pretty good to me
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I wish we could play with 12 players.
 
I was impressed by Maguire during the World Cup. He's rough around the edges but he can play out from the back, is commanding in both boxes and takes shit off no one. We're lacking a leader at the back and Maguire could grow into that role, we could do a lot worse.
 
I have a feeling this is all a ploy of Maguire’s agent for a better contract at Leicester. I don’t think he’ll go anywhere.
 
noodlehair said:
Is everyone just going to ignore that England's biggest problem at the world cup was our centrebacks being poor both defensively and with the ball?

Why do people think that taking 5+ touches to play a simple pass makes you good with the ball as opposed to bad with It?
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Eh? Was that our biggest problem? Think our major lack of creativity and lack of midfield was the issue, and that was the opinion most people shared.
 
Very unusual the club briefed about its interest in one specific player, feels like there's an agreement in principle.
 
GaryLifo said:
Would he work in a back 3 of

Bailly Maguire Lindelof?

I appreciate we'd need also a LWB if we went this way.


But with no further signings perhaps

DDG​

Lindelof Bailly Maguire​
Valencia -----------------------------------Young​

Fred Matic Pogba​


Lingard Lukaku Sanchez​


That looks pretty good to me
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Cheat
 
Judas said:
Eh? Was that our biggest problem? Think our major lack of creativity and lack of midfield was the issue, and that was the opinion most people shared.
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The major problem we had was the likes of Maguire and Stones picking the ball up and taking 10 seconds just to pass it sideways, or strolling slowly about with it and then not being able to defend properly when they lost it.

Maguire in particular was far too slow at everything, as he is at leicester. He just isn't a very good player at the highest level. If there's one thing we have enough of already, it's centrebacks who aren't that good.

Not to mention our main problem last season being the slow tempo of our play. Signing one of the only players on earth capable of making it slower doesn't seem like a solution to anything.
 
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United Pro said:
In terms of play style, replacing Jones for Maguire makes sense. Overall, I rate Jones as a better CB than Rojo though (but the latter can fill in at LB if needed).
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Yup I rate Jones more than Rojo but like you said Rojo can play LB. I like that he is left-footed too, in fact our only left-footed CB with Blind now sold. Even though he is fairly injury prone himself, Jones is more worse!
 
Raw said:
Probably Jones, he has runs of decent form but the odd brainfart here and there is so costly. Not to mention he's injury prone.

Smalling's consistently been our best CB despite his shortcomings, Lindelof deserves another season after showing promise at the World Cup and Bailly, while injury prone, has shown that he can be very good for us. Rojo's a close second behind Jones. He's okay but he should be close to or at his peak by now, we need better than okay.
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If it was down to me I would sell both Jones and Rojo, bring in Maguire or whatever CB Jose wants (I will back him with who he brings in) and then also use Bailly, Lindelof and Smalling. I would then promote, providing they stay, Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah as backup options.
 
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