Any agent worth his weight will be able to secure their client a good sized wage when they are a record transfer. Find me any ~£80m signing on anything less than £100k a week.
Maguire | he stays!
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£30m for Maguire is fine.
McT needs to be £40m.
McT needs to be £40m.
I still suspect he still will gaffe alot, but a deeper line will probably limit the exposure of said mistakes. On balance it depends on wages,length of contract things like that as to whether it is the type of deal worth really going for. I think he will improve us subtly vs the starting pair at the moment ,more majorly for when Zouma is injured/aguerd is at AFCON and does clearly give huge experience and also homegrown.
Alvarez is our no.6, he plays so deep he is borderline another CB at times.
Mctom probably an 8, box-box player.
Cheers for the advice but seeing as I’ve owned dogs for the past 27 years your advice isn’t required. Anyway I won’t derail this thread any further with dog talk because of a very old and common saying.
Accept it! Would be a great deal for us considering the state we're at with Harry 'Meme' Maguire.
I've had dogs my entire life. I've been bitten by dogs. But I've never even heard of a dog biting off someone's hand as that poor soul was trying feed it. If you see a starving dog and want to feed it, out of an abundance of caution you put the food on the ground on walk away. By definition you don't know if a strange dog is vicious. But the point is that a happy dog normally doesn't dismember you.
There is this case which I just found, where a dog bit off five fingers off a baby: https://winknews.com/2023/06/21/puppy-bites-baby-fingers-off-port-charlotte/
“This particular case is the first one of this nature I’ve seen in my whole career,” Brian Jones, the division manager for Charlotte County Animal Control, said. Jones has worked 25 years with Charlotte County’s Animal Control, explaining he’s never seen or heard of anything like what happened at the Port Charlotte home.
There was no indication that the baby was trying to feed the pit bull.
I won't put up other links here, but there is another case worth noting:
The parents of a 4-year-old Layton boy who was playing in their backyard when huskies bit off his hand in March are suing their neighbors, saying the dogs were known to be vicious before the attack.
What can be safely said is that vicious dogs have been known to bite the hand off a stranger, but even then the stranger wasn't trying to feed the dog. But it is also safe to say is that it's a bad idea to try to feed a dog that isn't your dog.
Again you’re taking it too literal. The dog isn’t literally biting someone’s hand off it’s just an exaggeration to make a point.
Wrong thread.
I've had dogs my entire life. I've been bitten by dogs. But I've never even heard of a dog biting off someone's hand as that poor soul was trying feed it. If you see a starving dog and want to feed it, out of an abundance of caution you put the food on the ground on walk away. By definition you don't know if a strange dog is vicious. But the point is that a happy dog normally doesn't dismember you.
There is this case which I just found, where a dog bit off five fingers off a baby: https://winknews.com/2023/06/21/puppy-bites-baby-fingers-off-port-charlotte/
“This particular case is the first one of this nature I’ve seen in my whole career,” Brian Jones, the division manager for Charlotte County Animal Control, said. Jones has worked 25 years with Charlotte County’s Animal Control, explaining he’s never seen or heard of anything like what happened at the Port Charlotte home.
There was no indication that the baby was trying to feed the pit bull.
I won't put up other links here, but there is another case worth noting:
The parents of a 4-year-old Layton boy who was playing in their backyard when huskies bit off his hand in March are suing their neighbors, saying the dogs were known to be vicious before the attack.
What can be safely said is that vicious dogs have been known to bite the hand off a stranger, but even then the stranger wasn't trying to feed the dog. But it is also safe to say is that it's a bad idea to try to feed a dog that isn't your dog.
Came to read about Maguire leaving. Ended up learning about dogs and why they bite you.
Classic redcafe.
The club are absolutely mad if they turn this down.
It seems I owe people an apology. I didn't think we could get 30m+ in a million years and I made quite clear in a fair few posts.
Sorry guys, I was wrong.
Sorry guys, I was wrong.
£60m would be great.
Sell Donny, Fred and Henderson (10-15m each) and we would be looking at £100m in sales, surely means we can make a bid for Kane?
Sell Donny, Fred and Henderson (10-15m each) and we would be looking at £100m in sales, surely means we can make a bid for Kane?
Watch us reject it now.
The club are probably are frothing at the mouth to accept it but Maguire knows the United contract is his last big one. Probably halving his wages if he goes to West Ham.
Imo the whole point in negotiation is you gotta know your own negotiation power. Like feck he'd have said no to a 100k a week, which was double of his wages at Leicester and the prospect of playing at United and European football if we said take it or leave it. If his agent said no to that he'd fire that agent and accept the deal himself I reckon. Nobody was interested in him but us.
The thing about those huge deals with huge salaries is because most of those players were already on very high wages before the move. Anyway we bought Bruno for €65m and his initial wages back then were 100k a week I think. Maguire was bought for €87m.
I think the difference you will see with McTominay stems from what his talents are. He has an exceptional ability to burst past players in tight spaces, he's got a good strike of the ball, he can finish and he has good instincts for timing runs into the box.
The reason that he will excel more ate West Ham or a team of that level is that the things he can't do are the draw backs for a side like United who are supposed to dominate the ball.
If he's granted attacking license I wouldn't be shocked if he finds himself in those conversations about "the best player outside of the top 6 or top 8" or whatever they are. With people saying we messed up by selling him (they will be wrong but they will say it).
JWP has never been in those conversations.
If we can't get Amrabat then i'd be fine with keeping McT. Maguire needs to go though. £30m is a good price
70m for both then I think.
I think he's talking about the dog.
No. Let's take the deal and not giggle until we have left the building.
Redcafe is a doggy dog world. If you enter a thread naively you will be bitten.
Can understand rejecting the Mct bid - but ~ £30m for Maguire is the very definition of a no brainer.
What else will we achieve - he stays for a year, at best does okay in a dozen games. Then is down to one year left on good wages, where we won’t be able to get anywhere near the fee for him.
Come on Murtough, do the right thing.
What else will we achieve - he stays for a year, at best does okay in a dozen games. Then is down to one year left on good wages, where we won’t be able to get anywhere near the fee for him.
Come on Murtough, do the right thing.
Where's the white text?
I hope it means there are some interest from other clubs.
30 million is fine, but it feels like we can get a bit more for a starting CB for England. Plus the homegrown tax.
30 million is fine, but it feels like we can get a bit more for a starting CB for England. Plus the homegrown tax.
That's obviously sarcasm mate. No need for white text.
Please just accept the 30m so we can move on. 30 for him and 30 for mctominay is decent business.
It's redcafe mate, sarcasm is never obvious on here anymore
I see. But tbh if so that level of delusion is a bit too high even for the caf imo.
Haha yeh true
How much do we still owe Leicester?
£30m rejected for Maguire
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you're having a fuking laugh....how do you turn down a £60m double bid for Harry and McT???? fuking sell the dogs bollocks and go buy Amrabat and Kudus
*that I’ve never met!*
Nope, not irrational or stupid at all.
Ah I dont give a bollox about that. His interviews and comments make him come across as a delusional, petulant prat with no sense of responsibility. Add to the fact he's an awful starting (or cover) centre back just makes it even worse.
I honestly dont care how Im personally coming across. I cant stand him.
You should have told us for McT. I almost had a heart attack here.
Turning down 30m for Scott is reasonable. Looks like the Maguire talks are ongoing