Any bid from spurs and we should stick to £40m and add a levy tax on top of that for refusing to sell to us.
Maguire | he stays!
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On one hand we shouldn’t be greedy and we should take it. The other hand let’s rip them off. Moyes wants the pair, they have £105m unspent. No other targets it seems. Let’s screw them like people screw us.
feck FFP lad.
It would get us in the conversation for Kane. Assuming we can also get an extra 30m or so from Fred, Donny and Bailly.
No doubt he’ll be criticising the club later on for being rubbish sellers.
Difference is they’ll walk away and we still end up with average players.
£30m Maguire and £35m plus incentives for Scott should get it done.
The fact we’re all terrified of West Ham pulling out if we counter offer is exactly why this bid should be accepted ASAP.
We should start drafting that thank you letter to lego and the gooners 
I do like McTominay but it makes sense for us to move him on. He's never going to be what we need as a starting midfielder, so he's a backup option. I'm not sure he's the backup option we need either. It would good for him to move on to get some game in, as he'll start every week for West Ham. We're never going to get a better price for him and his value will just diminish. So it's a case of either ensuring that he's a good enough backup option, or cash in on him. I'm thinking the latter makes too much sense to not pursue this deal.
Yeah no one else will offer anything close to 30m for either of them. I’d take the 30m for Maguire maybe try and haggle 5m extra for Mctominay.
But club have to be aware that market for both players is extremely small and ultimately we need them gone to bring others in.
Alvarez is done mate, I've been told as much by the youth coach I speak to on occasion.
I also think it's quite likely at least one of those will end up here, it's helpful for the homegrown if nothing else.
Plus whilst I question Maguire, I do think he'd be a solid signing and shore us up, and I we are lacking leadership figures as well at the moment, I can see why Moyes I'd appealed,even if I still think 30m is too high for the age and gaffe prone nature of Maguire, personally.
Fair deal for all. Let's go.
It's € when we're buying and £ when selling, always has to look as bad as possible.
I doubt this is true, but do they really expect Utd to pay half of his wages if he moves?
He's not gaffe prone if you play a deep line.
You've effectively strengthened your spine and improved your team significantly with Alvarez, McT and Maguire.
It’s a slight overstatement. He is better though.
McT will shock me if he’s anything better than what he’s been for us. I have said in this thread that he’ll be good for Hammers but he won’t magically become a better player. He will be able to get into their team which is a start but it is harder to play well in a mid or lower table team, not easier.
Seems like things are finally beginning to ramp up here. We're 4 days before the league starts and finally Dithering Dave putting in a bid. Ha!
Fair deal and with McTommy I’d say £60 is about right but with that £105million WHU got, see if they can be cheeky and get another 5mill, covers the Amrabat deal and possibly a another CD. Great bit of business
Maguire will be class for you. Suits Moyes football perfectly. Less convinced by Mctominay unless the idea is he plays ahead of a 6 with freedom to get into the box. He isn’t a 6 and shouldn’t be played there.
Its an improvement. Remember bidding for Fellaini on deadline day?
30m snap their dicks off did they see the game against Bilbao?
It’s the player who holds the cards in that situation. He will be saying “I’m X per week out of pocket so unless you cover the difference I’m not moving”.
He’s under no contractual pressure to leave so it’s OUR benefit for him to leave, not his. Plus he will receive a sign on bonus split over the length of the contract when he signed no doubt that he will say he’s entitled to.
That’s exactly how it works for transfers when a player is moving down the ladder rather than up.
United are basically getting a fee to cover FFP and using some of that fee to clear his contract.
Maguire won’t miss out financially.
United get a fee which covers FFP. United also save £100k / week on the contract we agreed with Maguire which equates to about £11m saved.
It’s why we bad at selling. The only players we let leave are ones that are in this situation.
Maguire will do well with West Ham. Hope it goes through for everyone’s sake.
Yeah but say it’s 30m for Scott. That allows us to spend 150m on a player spread over 5 years.
That’s why it would be a huge advantage for us surely?
Tbf imo 100k a week is what we should have offered him back then. He was on like 45k a week at Leicester. To this day I still have no idea why the feck we offered him that contract.
Ideally we’d get closer to 70-75 for the pair of them, but if we can re-invest in a midfielder and a center back, I hope the club accepts 60.
You don't offer a dog anything between your fingers, especially over their head as they will jump and snap. Instead, hold it in the flat of your hand and offer it to them from underneath their nose.You’ve never feed a dog a treat and they’ve accidentally nipped your finger in the process? You must have encountered some very well mannered dogs. Anyway, You’re taking the biting the hand off part too literal. Don’t deep it that much, it’s just a saying.
You're welcome.
He was purchased for £80m, he was always going to get a big contract.
“We can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of,” - Woodward
35m + 5m add ons for Maguire and 40m + 5-8m add ons is fair for McT. Sorry they have 105m sitting in the bank gaining interest, they can afford it. Markets get inflated when the seller knows the buyers has the money in the bank. Cough up Hammers!!
It would be huge.
But I don't think FFP has ever been a real issue.
We've also got the sale of Fred, Donny, Bailly, Deano not accounted for yet. All are expected to leave. Telles and DDG are gone too along with a few academy lads. Don't quote me but I think we'd be well clear to buy a player for 100m or so this summer alone.
I'd say if we got close to 90m from sales this summer, we might...just might...be able to put in a bid for Kane that won't have us laughed at by levy.
I find it hilarious that its the gooners who have inadvertently supercharged our rebuild process. If it wasn't for moyes, I doubt anybody would be in for Maguire or McT.
I don't get that logic either. Surely we bought him for 80m but do you think he would have said no if we offered him 100k a week?
That's how it is. We have to pay him off.
Pretty sure they will be able to finally give him 115 or even 120k/week
It seems only Maguire bid will go through...
Hope he is kept, great player and leader and will definitely come good this season!
You’ve never feed a dog a treat and they’ve accidentally nipped your finger in the process? You must have encountered some very well mannered dogs. Anyway, You’re taking the biting the hand off part too literal. Don’t deep it that much, it’s just a saying.
I've had dogs my entire life. I've been bitten by dogs. But I've never even heard of a dog biting off someone's hand as that poor soul was trying feed it. If you see a starving dog and want to feed it, out of an abundance of caution you put the food on the ground on walk away. By definition you don't know if a strange dog is vicious. But the point is that a happy dog normally doesn't dismember you.
There is this case which I just found, where a dog bit off five fingers off a baby: https://winknews.com/2023/06/21/puppy-bites-baby-fingers-off-port-charlotte/
“This particular case is the first one of this nature I’ve seen in my whole career,” Brian Jones, the division manager for Charlotte County Animal Control, said. Jones has worked 25 years with Charlotte County’s Animal Control, explaining he’s never seen or heard of anything like what happened at the Port Charlotte home.
There was no indication that the baby was trying to feed the pit bull.
I won't put up other links here, but there is another case worth noting:
The parents of a 4-year-old Layton boy who was playing in their backyard when huskies bit off his hand in March are suing their neighbors, saying the dogs were known to be vicious before the attack.
What can be safely said is that vicious dogs have been known to bite the hand off a stranger, but even then the stranger wasn't trying to feed the dog. But it is also safe to say is that it's a bad idea to try to feed a dog that isn't your dog.