I think Ole was a terrible manager but struggle to believe he'd have been stupid enough to say this.
Maguire | he stays!
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Well ofcourse there isnt. Saudi clubs want positive attention to their league, they arent going to sign the biggest meme in world football to play in their league.
Indeed, I would even take every day Bailly (as long as he stays fit) over Maguire but he seems to be knocking on the door to get out. ETH is doing it on a quite professional way giving Harry the "chance" but on the same side saying "if he's not ready, he must leave". It really would be the best way for all sides if he decides to leave for another club, has a good impact there, contribute to this personal stats and have a secured starting spot for the European Championship 2024. If this is not worth for him from the sporting aspect, then he prefers the Bale way to stay at the club, rot on the bench and earns 200k per week, which will definitely cause some instability within the club and the fans base.
The Glazers, Woodward and the whole background has caused a lot of problems still remaining years after. It will take time until we get rid of all these old problems and start from scratch. Currently, we are on a great way and just need to keep this momentum, hence I hope we manage to sell the mentioned players and put quality competition in order to get back to the very top.
It’s almost as though someone must be forcing ETH to keep him and slowly integrate him into becoming an option. It’s an unusual pivot from the initial stance. It’s also strange just a mere (5-7m give or take) sum made the deal fall through. ETH showed ruthlessness and conviction in his strategy. For some reason that hasn’t been the case with Maguire- or rather, is no longer the case.
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Wish Southgate would stop being so far up his arse and making him an automatic pick, think the only way we could get rid of him would be for him to be told he's not getting picked if he's not playing regularly
Hope we don't play him at all to force him out in January
Hope we don't play him at all to force him out in January
No this is a person that has no ambition and is content to ride the bench instead of losing 80k a week because he knows even if he doesn't play his place in the national team isn't in jeopardy as Southgate has shown. This isn't him staying to fight for a place because he's already been told his place which is 5th choice CB when Malacia is fit because ETH would rather play Shaw at CB than Maguire.
Some people talk better with fire extinguishers than with words.
This reads as if Phil Jones would claim to have a better injury record than Maguire.
Shit. We're stuck with him even when we actually don't want to.
That deal still would have been held up by Maguire wanting a payoff.
I am fed up of this man.
Or we could be positive and McTominay could produce his Scottish performances in a Utd shirt and win crucial games for us as he has the ability but I suppose positively is rare on here.
I wonder if Rojo really said that. Seems to be too direct and disregarded any form of relationship that he had with Maguire prior to that.
At least Bailly's was more indirect even though we all knew who he was referring to.
He doesn't play the same role at United.
I just wonder how much real power Ole had?
As much as any of our managers?
He has the ability and that is the main thing for a squad player so Erik has that to use as he chooses.
I get wanting whats owed to you. I get want to maximise your earnings potential for what is a short career (to a point).
But I can't help but think he'll come to massively regret not leaving this summer in the long run.
But I can't help but think he'll come to massively regret not leaving this summer in the long run.
Close enough… “he who just not be named” is an accurate moniker.
I get the impression his agent has a big part to play in hijacking this move. Harry doesn’t come across as shrewd enough to ask for more money and probably wouldn’t know how much he’s earning.
What's up with a thread name. He's staying?
Have to accept he's saying now but I don't want to see him starting any important game this season and seeing where he is in the pecking order he's unlikely to do so unless injury crisis to all centre back options. One of the only useful ways to use him is to bring him on with 10 or less minutes to play when behind in games and played up front to nod down high hopefully balls into the box.
Bailly was been left go on a free only he couldn’t agree terms and Donny is a loan . Hannibal will go out on a loan as well so you’re all wrong
There is no universe where this happens. He's 30. He's not going to get faster or more agile, or fix any of the other problems in his game that make him a shit defender for United.
The manager is stuck with him so has to save face and keep squad harmony. The club opened the door and gestured him to leave, but he wouldnt
Meanwhile fecking City can get 35m from Saudi for one of their cast-offs no problem 
The Saudi's are probably reading Redcafe and thinking if the fans give him so much shite then he must be really, really bad, City can do it because virtually no one reads Blue Moon and they likely don't dump on as much on their own playersMeanwhile fecking City can get 35m from Saudi for one of their cast-offs no problem
yeah this whole fighting for his place just makes no sense to me. He just doesnt fit how we want to play from the back, and the things he struggles with just arent things you can changes, especially at his age. His slow lumbering zone of control in a high line would be a disaster. Mentally he doesnt move quick enough, you can argue he could be coached to move the ball quicker but at this point his bad habits will eventually creep back in on that at some point. Just watch how shaw was at CB at end of last season and how many chances he snuffed out due to being somewhat quick that maguire wouldnt have been in the same area code on.
Never said its not fine for him to stay, read the post properly. Cleary I am saying its not ok for him to transfer to a new club and at the same time demand a payout for “money owed”
So do you think Sancho or Antony would walk away with no severance pay if we decided to sell them tomorrow to a mid table club where they would have to fit in the wage structure of that club?
Magfred.
I would expect Saudi would be in for him before the end of the window but he'd never go there. I could be wrong. Maybe they already made contact and he declined.Meanwhile fecking City can get 35m from Saudi for one of their cast-offs no problem
His ego wont let him go to a lesser club. He's an ego maniac.
He does seem like the guy who doesn't get the bigger picture...
Which is odd enough given he'd easily fit a OLED tv inside that square head of his.
Shame the saudi CL spot isnt happening till 2025. We'd get rid of alot more players.
I always suspected this and it was why I never expected the West Ham move to happen.
But he doesn't want the transfer, that's the whole point. The club wants to get rid of him so they have to pay him. He is entitled to demand his salary as it says in the contract.
If they sell him now at least there is a fee invoved. His salary has to be paid either way, because he's happy to stay.
The club thinks that 30m won't get them a replacement, while I think a 4th choice CB can be founf for that money. Maybe even one with a smaller ego and some potential to replace Varane next year.
City paid 15m for Akanji just last year.
They will if they care about their reputation, career, NT chances etc.
Dear Saudi's,
Would like to tell you not to believe everything you read here. Caftards are not very know as knowledgeable when it comes to football. Quite the opposite, not to mention they are very young, teenagers to be exact, and they are jealous of our enormously successful football players like Maguire, Henderson, Bailly, Martial, McTominay, etc. Let me also inform you those players are very popular around the world and will lift popularity of your league in no time. We would be very sad if you would buy them for £300m-£350m, but will also understand your desire to get best of the best and all of the Caf will become fans of the future World greatest league: SA League.
He’d move if his ego was the issue. Being stripped of the captaincy and dropped to the bench would be intolerable to anyone with ego problems.
It’s just greed, or he’s extremely deluded that he’ll win his place back, or both. He’s done at United and we’ll probably take a bigger hit on him next summer or he’ll walk on a free the one after. The mocking of him on social media and booing at games will get even worse, he’ll be broken forever.
Seems like we were only going to sell if we could replace him for a similar fee.
He's 4th choice now so wages aside, who cares? We'll barely have to see him play and despite not really being a good fit for our desired future playing style he's still a very good 4th choice center back.
He's 4th choice now so wages aside, who cares? We'll barely have to see him play and despite not really being a good fit for our desired future playing style he's still a very good 4th choice center back.