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Maguire | he stays!
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He wouldn't be, it's not as if he'd be playing for free.
West Ham pay Kurt Zouma a reported 125k a week, assuming they would pay a similar amount, he's at most walking away from ~6.7mil, I can't see a way we are activating his +1 at this stage, and there clearly isn't any club will to offer him 190k a week anywhere else.
Tell him that he won't play a single minute, and won't be registered for EPL and UCL. Get his number and give him number 86. Put him in the reserves.
Plenty of incentives, in addition to a few millions which we are willing to give to him.
Heaton is injured, we don't have another senior GK available, hence Henderson still knocking around.
As for Maguire, we don't have a need to sell him really, yeah we need a midfielder and a sale is probably needed to buy, but that's not on Maguire especially if he's happy to fight for game time, we have other players that should be sold that are offering less than Maguire.
Yeah well the thing is they don't seem to want him to leave that much. If club and manager statements are to be believed, they're fine with having him stay and fight for his place. Even if they don't really mean that, the fact they're saying it means that they're being careful to ensure they can continue to make use of him if he ends up staying. So I don't think anything like that is going to happen.
Put him in reserves. Don't tell him that he can fight for his place in a team.
Pretty simple really to force player out.
Yes, but why is he though? It's not like it's a doable scenario to have him as a backup - he's made it very clear he's not up for that, and is on record making astoundingly disloyal and disruptive public statements about that. If we can't rely on Heaton, we need another keeper. If we can't afford one, then we must loan one, like we did last year. So I just find that reasoning from the club very weird.
If there was ever evidence of why the Glazers need to go. It’s this.
yeah, with the reports that's out there, I'm not really sure about this regarding Maguire.
I mean, if Ten Hag wants a player out then he's out whatever it takes. Look at Ronaldo. Practically idolized by a large amount of our current players, and he booted him out.
The way I understand it, it's really a cost benefit issue. He can't find a player who can reasonably challenged Varane with the money got from Maguire sale. With that, Ten Hag statement made sense.
"I can use you if you want to stay as backup and fight for your place"
The drawback is that nobody but Ten Hag and Maguire are confident that Maguire can reclaim some confidence and form in this situation.
Who said he wants to leave?
If the club want to sell him and he does not want to go and see out his contract he is perfectly within his rights to do so.
Some seem to struggle on here with the meaning of what a contract is.
Maguire must have really thick skin.
I can only imagine the kind of abuse he will get when warming up or coming on as a sub.
I can only imagine the kind of abuse he will get when warming up or coming on as a sub.
United gave him the contract, it's United's fault, Maguire does nothing wrong by respecting the contract he was given.
Do i want him gone? Yes, but no reason to personally attack him for what he does. If he thinks he can get his spot back, sure it's his life and his decisions, even if he gets it wrong and don't play much.
Some of the comments in here are horrible, and written by people who don't understand how life is for grown ups.
Edit: It has nothing to do with "Maguire defence force", i don't think he has many fans on here at all.
It's the opportunity cost isn't it. Maguire leaving means we can roll the dice on a defender who suits our playstyle better. Which other players are you referring to that could fetch 30M+? Only McT but the manager actually wants him to stay and he's a homegrown player.
I have no desire to defend him, I've wanted him away from the club for years.
I can want that without descending into the most juvenile expressions of fiction and personal attacks against him though.
I've been a critic from Maguire from day one and even during his supposed purple patch I thought he was still nowhere near good enough. But if he isn't leaving because of the cash then fair play to him. We were stupid enough to buy him and stupid enough to give him a wage well above his ability.
What would be more depressing would be if he was still going to be captain and starting for us.
Saying that, could still be some later window drama and he goes.
What would be more depressing would be if he was still going to be captain and starting for us.
Saying that, could still be some later window drama and he goes.
Here we go!
Probably better than VVD these days tbf. You lot can make a sneaky late bid.
I am thankful for your valuable advice, Sir.
Could have sold Maguire and McT for 53m. Now we're stuck with both and they will likely lose value drastically next transfer window. Also can't do further transfers properly.
The best disincentive then would be to have him the in squad travelling; all dressed up but never selecting him to start or to come on as a sub.
I completely understand if football fans find it hard to empathise with a "disliked employee" who plays football for a living and earns more than most senior executives, let alone his peers of a similar standard.
For me the financial calculation isn't as straightforward for Maguire if we leave him to rot in the reserves. In 2 years he'll be lucky to receive a 50K/yr contract. Which seems to be what the club is negotiating on with the partial pay-off which I find perfectly reasonable.
For me the financial calculation isn't as straightforward for Maguire if we leave him to rot in the reserves. In 2 years he'll be lucky to receive a 50K/yr contract. Which seems to be what the club is negotiating on with the partial pay-off which I find perfectly reasonable.
Guess the question is, will he actually get booed by our fans? I wouldn't be surprised if you hear him get ironic cheers from the oppositions supporters.
If it's money that he is looking for to compensate for the United rejection, not sure why his agent doesn't look for a club in the Saudi League.
Since Fergie left; did we ever "pushed" player out? We only sell players who want to go. And then we fans are shocked by the fact that our mentality is fragile and weak.
We still have too many players with zero ambition who are just happy to be here.
Who says he hasn't ?
I doubt so, Maguire seems well settled in the Manchester area that I know of (not a lot) and maybe he's living the good life apart from a slightly unsatisfying job (?) and people grinding teeth on the Internet.
But we don't really know what he (or his agent) has been thinking and doing, seems a little specious to bring it in the conversation.
Imo, this transfer window will be known for this rather than the signings we do make.
Absolutely, we could have had:
+ Amrabat and Pavard/Todibo
- Maguire and McTominay
For 5-10m net spend.
The Saudis want to burnish their reputation and market themselves as a viable top league in the world game.
Buying a meme doesn't further that cause, unfortunately.
Maguire could better than 95% of the other defenders in league. If he's not somebody the Saudis can put on a poster to advertise the competition to casual viewers, he won't be worth the spend.
True but he still can position himself as the ''former captain of the world famous Manchester United" as part of his personal brand.
Hilarious reactions. He's a professional player on ridiculous salary. Of course he wants what has been agreed by the idiots who contracted him.
Donny, Hannibal and Bailly combined should reach £30m at least.
It's about who would want them though I guess.
Look at the post directly above yours. His image is used as a punchline by default. It's a phenomenon that's too entrenched for any subheading to erase.
You also couldn't put a picture of Mr Bean on a poster saying "Oxford graduate" and expect people to link Rowan Atkinson to anything other the character we've all been trained to laugh at by the media.
Lessons to be learned by the club from this, recruit what we need (and Maguire obviously we didn't need long term) and stop paying big salaries to useless trash.
Completely agree. He's our new Phil Jones - a complete meme. He's a person that now exists for others to just to take the utter piss out of.
They’d genuinely struggle to reach half of that amount. Bailly is literally a free transfer.
I'm not surprised, I think the cup final stood out to me.
Came on at 88th minute;
Took the armband off Bruno;
First up the stairs;
Zero class.
Came on at 88th minute;
Took the armband off Bruno;
First up the stairs;
Zero class.
He was being transferred, when do players get paid to transfer teams - never.
If this was us terminating the contract so he's a free agent, then a payoff would make sense.
This is money he's asking for because he'd be getting paid less at another club. That's not our problem.
Pointing out that he's lied about his intentions and desires, isn't an "expression of fiction." It's literal fact. He's aware he won't play, knows without games he won't get picked for England. These are things he's spoken about wanting to do.
He's also been vocal in wanting to stay, being captain of Manchester United is a privilege yada yada yada - yet is trying to milk the club to leave, when he knows he's not good enough.
Actions say otherwise.
Alright, I called him a scab, I suppose a leech would have been more accurate and pleased you more.
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Feels like there's a growing sense of negativity building up around the club again. Not doing what we need to do in the transfer market, poor start to the season, players at the club who we can't shift and are bringing down the mood in the dressing room. Wouldn't be shocked if the wheels came off again but hey if it's what's needed to get rid of the Glazers...