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Meanwhile fecking City can get 35m from Saudi for one of their cast-offs no problem
Laporte is levels above maguire.
Meanwhile fecking City can get 35m from Saudi for one of their cast-offs no problem
Name a transfer where a player gets severance. It only happens on mutual termination of contract. As with Sanchez and Ronaldo.So do you think Sancho or Antony would walk away with no severance pay if we decided to sell them tomorrow to a mid table club where they would have to fit in the wage structure of that club?
So is Lindelof apparentlyLaporte is levels above maguire.
This is ETH's fault too. SAF would have told him he is never going to play again and needs to feck off.
Or may be the problem also lies on DOF. There must be a reason for the failure of the transfer for the unwanted players. From Henderson, Baily, Maguire to Mctominay. They all failed just because players are greedy?Laporte is levels above maguire.
Don’t believe what ETHs says in public.This is ETH's fault too. SAF would have told him he is never going to play again and needs to feck off.
What's up with a thread name. He's staying?
Or he could leave and go play football while still being handsomely rewarded.People just want to slag him off. But the guy has realistically 5 years left of his career. Beyond that he has no idea on what he can earn. He is being asked to give up £7m over the course of 2 of those 5 years. Makes no sense unless he really thinks his career will be over at 32.
Never said its not fine for him to stay, read the post properly. Cleary I am saying its not ok for him to transfer to a new club and at the same time demand a payout for “money owed”
Nah I don't think so. He's probably going to start 10-15 games for us, and come on in 15-20 more. He will still get plenty of time as we don't have that much depth at the back.
He won't have enough appearances to qualify for any trophy we do win. Don't they need 10 full matches in the PL? He managed 6 last time. He's also not leading the defense if we progress to the semis of any cup competition.He’s also far more likely to win trophies at Utd than a shite club like West Ham, though, even if he’s not playing a big part in them. It’s shit, and speaks volumes that he clearly doesn’t care how much he actually plays, but it is another aspect than just the money.
if he stays here he gets a big fat wage and potentially wins more trophies whilst not playing much.
if he goes there he will earn half that wage, probably be in a relegation scrap, and play a lot more.
is it really THAT obvious a move?
Why not? The other side of this argument is saying that "Harry should pay us money to play football elsewhere"
I don’t think that’s a thing anymore is it? Think you just need to be registered in the squad.He won't have enough appearances to qualify for any trophy we do win. Don't they need 10 full matches in the PL? He managed 6 last time. He's also not leading the defense if we progress to the semis of any cup competition.
5th choice, we care, he's a terrible fit, and he's barely adequate as 5th choice.Seems like we were only going to sell if we could replace him for a similar fee.
He's 4th choice now so wages aside, who cares? We'll barely have to see him play and despite not really being a good fit for our desired future playing style he's still a very good 4th choice center back.
Dear Saudi's,
Would like to tell you not to believe everything you read here. Caftards are not very know as knowledgeable when it comes to football. Quite the opposite, not to mention they are very young, teenagers to be exact, and they are jealous of our enormously successful football players like Maguire, Henderson, Bailly, Martial, McTominay, etc. Let me also inform you those players are very popular around the world and will lift popularity of your league in no time. We would be very sad if you would buy them for £300m-£350m, but will also understand your desire to get best of the best and all of the Caf will become fans of the future World greatest league: SA League.
But he doesn't want the transfer, that's the whole point. The club wants to get rid of him so they have to pay him. He is entitled to demand his salary as it says in the contract.
If they sell him now at least there is a fee invoved. His salary has to be paid either way, because he's happy to stay.
The club thinks that 30m won't get them a replacement, while I think a 4th choice CB can be founf for that money. Maybe even one with a smaller ego and some potential to replace Varane next year.
City paid 15m for Akanji just last year.
...and that's exactly what he does, how is that so hard to understand?!?Maguire is within his rights to refuse a transfer. That is the only way he is entitled to future payments.
Or may be the problem also lies on DOF. There must be a reason for the failure of the transfer for the unwanted players. From Henderson, Baily, Maguire to Mctominay. They all failed just because players are greedy?
If it was "simples" why isn't everyone doing that?We should just go back to signing players on a 3yr contract with the extra 1yr option for the club....simples.
No chance of that thenThey will if they care about their reputation, career, NT chances etc.
That was changed in 2011 - 5 is the number nowHe won't have enough appearances to qualify for any trophy we do win. Don't they need 10 full matches in the PL? He managed 6 last time. He's also not leading the defense if we progress to the semis of any cup competition.
Thats the stance. If he wants to actually leave he’ll get no severance. Its his choice and this is far from being over
Have you not worked out that he does not want to leave?Name a transfer where a player gets severance. It only happens on mutual termination of contract. As with Sanchez and Ronaldo.
And no the players can choose to stay at United. If a player choses to join another club via transfer they are not entitled to serverance.
Similarly if your job makes you redundant you get severance. If you get a new job, even on a lower salary you get no severance.
There is a reason the clubs public stance is that they value Maguire as an important member of the squad. If he leaves its his choice and the club owes him nothing,
The 10 appearances requirement has been scrapped and he appeared in 16 games for us last season anyway. It was never about ‘full’ games anyway.He won't have enough appearances to qualify for any trophy we do win. Don't they need 10 full matches in the PL? He managed 6 last time. He's also not leading the defense if we progress to the semis of any cup competition.
Not exactly. He wants to receive double wages from both clubs essentially....and that's exactly what he does, how is that so hard to understand?!?
He says he has no intention to leave, if you want me gone you have to pay up.
Of course he would like to play elsewhere, but that's called negotiation tactics.
If both parties stand by their position, he'll stay here.
I'm not talking about what he said in public, if it was SAF he would have called him into his office and told him either you feck of or train with the under 19 team.Don’t believe what ETHs says in public.
Dear Saudi's,
Would like to tell you not to believe everything you read here. Caftards are not very know as knowledgeable when it comes to football. Quite the opposite, not to mention they are very young, teenagers to be exact, and they are jealous of our enormously successful football players like Maguire, Henderson, Bailly, Martial, McTominay, etc. Let me also inform you those players are very popular around the world and will lift popularity of your league in no time. We would be very sad if you would buy them for £300m-£350m, but will also understand your desire to get best of the best and all of the Caf will become fans of the future World greatest league: SA League.
Because clubs cave into agents and players demands...if a few of the bigger ones stopped doing it then others may follow suit.If it was "simples" why isn't everyone doing that?
And Lindelof has a long-term back problemThe 10 appearances requirement has been scrapped and he appeared in 16 games for us last season anyway. It was never about ‘full’ games anyway.
He is a couple injuries away from being a starter. Varane is quite injury prone so it’s really about either Martinez or Lindelof being injured at the same time.
I don’t think that’s a thing anymore is it? Think you just need to be registered in the squad.
That was changed in 2011 - 5 is the number now
Bunch of killjoys, all of you.The 10 appearances requirement has been scrapped and he appeared in 16 games for us last season anyway. It was never about ‘full’ games anyway.
He is a couple injuries away from being a starter. Varane is quite injury prone so it’s really about either Martinez or Lindelof being injured at the same time.
FFP plays a part but it's swings and roundabouts, it's harder to get rid of the ones you want to get rid of with longer contacts but it also makes it harder to keep the ones you do want to if they're on shorter contractsBecause clubs cave into agents and players demands...if a few of the bigger ones stopped doing it then others may follow suit.
While it continues clubs can be stuck with a rapidly diminished asset for 4-5 yrs so it is in their interest to change it.
No, we live in the real worldBunch of killjoys, all of you.
His England spot doesn't pay him 190k/week for 2 years. It is no brainer.
They could offer another 3yr contract to a player in their 2nd year if th player is performing because offering these 5-6 yr contracts from the outset is madness IMOFFP plays a part but it's swings and roundabouts, it's harder to get rid of the ones you want to get rid of with longer contacts but it also makes it harder to keep the ones you do want to if they're on shorter contracts
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