All seems to point that United has no money left to put upfront. Maybe that's just them being conservative or not flaunting... Maybe we'll see some usual panic signings on August 31. But the line has been that additional recruits will only come in to replace outgoings 1:1.
Maguire | he stays!
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All seems to point that United has no money left to put upfront. Maybe that's just them being conservative or not flaunting... Maybe we'll see some usual panic signings on August 31. But the line has been that additional recruits will only come in to replace outgoings 1:1.
Another feck up from our confusing manager
My guess is, he won't play a single minute this season.
If only he had this much front to do interviews while club captain
We should not be booing ANY of our players. The best thing to do is accept that he'll be here for this season at least and use him in the odd cup game when we need to rotate.
Hopefully Southgate grows a pair and picks players that actually play every week: Colwill, Guehi and Tomori are all good options, even Shaw as CB with Chilwell lb will do.
Maguire is within his rights to dig his heels in about his contract. We're the fools who dished it out. Next season his amortization will be about 13/14m; hopefully we can sell around that figure and lower clubs may give him a bit more wages. Doubt it though.
Hopefully Southgate grows a pair and picks players that actually play every week: Colwill, Guehi and Tomori are all good options, even Shaw as CB with Chilwell lb will do.
Maguire is within his rights to dig his heels in about his contract. We're the fools who dished it out. Next season his amortization will be about 13/14m; hopefully we can sell around that figure and lower clubs may give him a bit more wages. Doubt it though.
Cant wait until Evans plays ahead of him.
Nah with 20k after 2 years the math doesn’t add up.
WHU most likely will have offered him 4 years contract. If he played well and got a one year extension then he’s ahead. 4 years contract equals his United pay. He will be 34 at the time and considering nutrition and fitness levels, preserving his value he could get 1-2 years at least at lower level probably at around 50-60k.
if he’s marginalised at United, he’d be 32, zero form, zero credentials anymore, most likely forgotten and getting pay as you play, don’t see any PL team touching him apart from recently promoted and Luton for example are paying their star players 10k per week?
if he was banking on him and keeping shape and prolonging his career then getting playing time should be his goal. If he’s unsure of his qualities but still want to get the bag - then yeah getting the promised bag sitting in a corner seems the safe option.
Harry's not fit...Harry's not fit...Harry's not fit to wear our shirt!
A suggestion for his next outing rather than just booing him.
A suggestion for his next outing rather than just booing him.
This lad was done for me when he said "I have nothing to prove at United." All footballers have something to prove, it's professional sport, proving yourself is the name of the game, competing to win and to earn respect from your team mates. He should've been stripped of the captaincy after that statement and now this over money just proves he's already retired mentally. He's a waster with a weak mentality. He's been a failure at United and England will do nothing with him too. West ham better off without players like him.
He's going to do the same as Hazard and say he wants to fight for his place. Knows well that no other club will pay him what United do. Hope they leave him to rot in the reserves for the remainder of his contract.
Nice knowing we will be stuck with Maguire and Scott until 2026. For the fans mental health, exclude them from any social media and give them no minutes to play. Least they can do is let us forget about them, Maguire in particular.
I think they'll work this out and he'll be a West Ham player before the window closes.
Well, probably the financial element of the payout is the fuss.
The club has been very clear that all incomings are facilitated by outgoings at this point. Either due to FFP or the owners or both, which makes your Arsenal comparison largely irrelevant. So at some point during this Magure deal it has broken down on account of that equation. That being the modest fee we're receiving from West Ham against his book value versus having to pay Maguire off a huge chunk and then having to get someone else in. All of that was being explored concurrently, considering Pavard and Tobido were looked at.
I don't think it was a matter of moral principle or whether Harry is being a cheeky boy.
I think the brief for Amrabat is 2 out of three (Donny, Fred, McT) as we might not be able to shift Donny.
still he’s cheaper than both Maguire/ McT at the quoted figures.
The Pavard quote is probably negotiation stand point. Mount was quoted at 70-80m at the beginning of the window…
Maybe the England career no longer excites him. He will be 31 by then and probably not be a starter for England whether or not he plays regular football henceforth.
People are making too much of the England role to convince themselves that Maguire should leave for West Ham.
It is not a matter of moral principles or being cheeky. Harry is doing what is best for him.
Lots can happen in the next fortnight.
Ah, with you.
Nah, of course not, it was an attempt at a joke
Send him to the reserves and let him rot there. If PSG can do that with Mbappe, Neymar, Verratti etc. we should be able to do that with the feckin fridge too.
No shit. I'm looking at it from the clubs perspective and why the decision was made not to proceed with the pay off.
If the entire idea is to move him on next year, then won't we be better off letting him leave this season with a severance package, thus eliminating his weekly wages from our books, getting an immediate replacement, and grooming the new incoming player? That saves money; that improves our future. Why wait till next year?
I highly doubt PSG will really do that and doesn't try their best to find a resolution.
This better not screw up a potential Pavard deal.
Mbappé is back on the squad, Neymar was transferred within 10 days of being told he was no longer part of the plan, and Verratti was allegedly told the same but that he'll train with the first team and be played as necessary if he can't find a buyer.
The "dropped to reserves" has been done but it's not that common.
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He doesn't care about playing week in and week out evidently.
Terrible transfer all-around though. I have no idea what we were thinking giving him this much money.
Terrible transfer all-around though. I have no idea what we were thinking giving him this much money.
That’s as good as finished if Maguire is staying.
You have better owners than we do. We probably can't afford to pay him off AND get a replacement. Personally, I would just go with Evans as 4th/5th choice and buy a new cb next summer.
He's like a turd the club just can't flush.
Got nothing against him as a person. He's probably an alright bloke to hang out with but his footballing abilities are not anywhere up to the standards for any top team and he needs to leave.
Got nothing against him as a person. He's probably an alright bloke to hang out with but his footballing abilities are not anywhere up to the standards for any top team and he needs to leave.
I am not familiar with the accounting side of both Arsenal and Man Utd. I only saw 50m or 43m (30m transfer fee + 13m wage saving) vs 7m. I am not familiar with the FFP calculation either. According to Redcafe Maguire will rot to reserve and never play so cost for replacement is irrelevant.
He's a liability. Him staying stops us from signing someone who can can actually contribute and add quality to our squad. It'll be almost impossible selling him next summer after another year of not playing, so that's him staying for another two years. We should've made it clear that he isn't gonna play, and if ETH did actually tell him that he's happy for him to stay and fight for his place then it's a massive mistake. He needs to be out of the squad.
I entirely agree but we're not privy to all the financial ins and outs, maybe when all factored it's too much of a bad deal to transfer him for that bid.
Next year his remaining amortization value should be 13m£ at most and only one year of wages to haggle over, even if he doesn't play a lot I could see a couple of teams possibly trying a punt at that price.
The thought of him being relied upon in anyway at all just disturbs me, most times you see him play he just seems capable of doing something utterly daft, this club just seems so amateurish at times!
He is really good. Chelsea should buy him for their midfield. Surely they need a few more to survive.
Your calculus doesn't make sense. You think he will earn more as a 34 year old than as a 32 year old? That is highly doubtful. Even then, he will have earned as much by 32 if he remains on his current contract as he would do on West Ham's offer by 34 years old, so under no circumstance should he walk away from his contract unless United make up the difference. That is objectively the correct financial decision.
I'm also not sure about the accounting side of things. To me, it seems that Josh Kronke has backed Arteta in getting rid of his unwanted players at all costs. This is not something the Glazers will do.
I don't think Maguire will (nor should) 'rot in the reserves' if he stays. It's a long season, 5th choice will get some minutes here and there.
It's not you, it's me Harry. Look, we had some good times. Let's not let this get awkward. We will always be friends.
He couldn't agree personal terms with West Ham. So the payoff doesn't even come into the picture. Unless we are talking about terminating his contract and paying him salary for next 2 years.
Just watched a highlight reel on YouTube of many of Slabhead's greatest blunders in a United shirt. Absolutely shocking this guy has been allowed to stay on as long as he has.
The day he stood and waited on the ball to come to him against Leicester and thus allowed them to pounce on it and score was the day I was done with Maguire.
Failing to unload him this summer will be the greatest failure we could have made in this window.
The day he stood and waited on the ball to come to him against Leicester and thus allowed them to pounce on it and score was the day I was done with Maguire.
Failing to unload him this summer will be the greatest failure we could have made in this window.