Feck this he should be sent to the reserves for the remainder of the season, ETH grow a per and make it happen.
Maguire | he stays!
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I reckon I am not certain the club was in a hurry to complete this deal. With Pavard not as cheap and Harry's exit not as profitable than hoped maybe the finance aspect wasn't working.
Maybe some, but surely most understand the comments had some bitter in them as if he knew the deal failed.Do people really believe he stayed just because of ETH quotes, are you for real?!
This one stings. The shit that won’t flush.
So let me get this straight. We have to pay Harry 190k a week and just to spite him you want us to pay an additional amount to a guy who is nowhere near good enough just so we can be petty?
Exactly, if anything, he made those comments because he knew the deal is not happening, not the other way around, it would be silly.
Surely even Woodward isn’t that thick to give him such clause without required minimal appearances during the season.
I don't have instagram so can't see his activity but simply using that as an example, you earn about £200k per 1m followers you have from brand posts at the upper end. I googled him and he's got 5m, for a reference point John Stones (a better, more marketable and more successful player) has half of that. United is a monster of a brand. It's kind of sickening when you think about it, when footballers go on holiday they'll likely pay for the holiday 5x over simply by sharing a pic of the hotel - if you play for the massive clubs like United, Barca, Real etc. you are at the top of the pecking order.
harry should be strapped down to the massage table. he should then have his training kit removed. his balls should then be covered in hot wax. rats should then be dropped at his feet to eat up small bits of offal from between his toes. his nipples should be crocodile clamped and tethered to the floor. he’ll cry out the safe word “large pay-off! large pay-off!” but his cries will be ignored.
I wouldn’t leave United for West Ham either to be fair, shite club. I certainly wouldn’t take 90 grand less a week for doing so and packing up my family to London.
If he stays he’ll likely see enough game time.
If he stays he’ll likely see enough game time.
And I reckon a big part of that is because the manager isn’t overly bothered whether the player stays or goes. If he really wanted the player out, I think we would have seen more of a push.
Harry will have been thrilled with Mings going down on Saturday, it is not as if England has an abundance of decent options to compete with him for his place so he will continue to get into the squad and he will start over guys like Colwill because Sir Chinny Waistcoat does not like to gamble on youth, youth being defined as anyone under 29 or prone to play that fancy modern progressive football.
Yeah. And Harry just didn’t really want to go. Just one of those things. No use us crying about it at this point.
Largely apathetic about Maguire not coming, but a bit more vexed that the club is probably going to raise a quarter of a billion in sales yet doesn't appear to be spending much of it.
Lingard is 'keeping his fitness up' with us... murmurings about what that might mean.
Trying to nab Laporte as part of any Paqueta sale, have been linked with Jonathan Tah at Leverkusen all summer.
Embarrassing. He has no pride or dignity by the sounds of it.
All our players get salary boost by us being in CL I think.
Like a new signing 
What a mess. I hope our CBs stay fit and in form for the season. Would be good to give Harry even less minutes than last season.
Puts a whole new perspective on our summer business after being so close to selling the 3 amigos and now looks like they’re all staying.
Great! At least this is what the fans in redcafe wanted.
Licha is the key for that. As long as he doesnt get hurt between lindalof and varane we should have at least one other fully fit CB and then shaw can cover as well. So hopefully keeps harry in that 5th CB spot and shit even then i hope EtH gives a youth CB some time or something.
This is pretty much hitting the nail on the head. From the outset we briefed that Harry and Scott were not for sale unless we got an offer we could not refuse and I don't think that was a negotiating tactic. There is a number for both that works but equally ETH is happy to keep them as 5th choice CB or 7th choice CM if the figure offered is not enough as he is well aware that the budget for replacements won't stretch to anyone that could legitimately be called an upgrade.
It’s clear it’s all about the money and how he sees WH as beneath him. Otherwise he wouldn’t have asked for several millions to leave.
His valuation, his place in the England set up and his popularity are going to take a nosedive. He could’ve left with a bit of grace and decorum, but the shitshow he’s created will mean he leaves as a prick.
His valuation, his place in the England set up and his popularity are going to take a nosedive. He could’ve left with a bit of grace and decorum, but the shitshow he’s created will mean he leaves as a prick.
We can only hope.
between henderson and mctominay we will be missing out on a lot of pure profit as well i believe with how FFP shit works. Couldve really done some good on the transfer market and solidified our window.
What's the play here? He's barely going to be at worth much next year with him hardly having game time so either move him on now or go even cheaper next year. This club is so bad at selling it's ridiculous
For what it is worth, I imagine Pavard -if indeed the expected replacement- would have been on equal if not bigger wages than Maguire though that might depend at what level Bayern is paying him.
Improvement excepted on the pitch but financially neutral.
Improvement excepted on the pitch but financially neutral.
Him staying directly impacts the chances of us bringing anyone else in so can't say this is great news at all.
We certainly need a defensive midfielder for one thing which we will be unlikely to do now
We certainly need a defensive midfielder for one thing which we will be unlikely to do now
Is Lingard using their facilities?
Fuming with this, but I can't say I didn't see it coming after Monday, if he was on his way out he wouldn't have been in the stadium. I doubted he's staying purely for the money, I think it's a case that he thinks he's too big for West Ham. Maguire has a pretty big opinion of his own ability and little West Ham wouldn't be good enough for him. The fact he didn't agree terms or even speak to Moyes says he was never interested, but United was though.
He's going to go down as one of the most hated United players ever, completely fecking delusional.
He's going to go down as one of the most hated United players ever, completely fecking delusional.
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He gets no credit for wanting to stay and fight for his place?
talk all summer has been Amrabat will come if we can move on from Fred and Donny. Time will tell if that is the case.
He's not staying for fight for his place. He's staying because of money.
No. He basically was served divorce papers / restraining order, and he's still hanging around outside the house, in a trench coat, wanking.
Very likely. He knows he is staying and he did what most manager would do in this situation, is to utilize the resource he has on hand just in case.
fecking hell
There isn’t a better club in the world to be mediocre than United. I don’t recall any of the major clubs ever having as much patience with underperforming players, there’s almost no consequence to not meeting expectations here. Fans are still going to sing chants about you, the manager will repeatedly mention how much he values and admires you, you will get to play in important games even if there are promising youngsters waiting eagerly to take your place (because experience, of course) and with just a little bit of luck (not much needed) and good timing you are even going to get your contract renewed with a nice bump on what is already an exorbitant salary.
This all is unthinkable at any other serious club but has somehow become the norm at United, so it’s not surprising to see players like Maguire stay - end of the day they don’t really have a reason to leave.
This all is unthinkable at any other serious club but has somehow become the norm at United, so it’s not surprising to see players like Maguire stay - end of the day they don’t really have a reason to leave.
Freeze him out completely until January. He will panic of his England place is under threat.
I think Pavard is in 100k/week EUR. And the French kid we have been linked is probably in sub-20k/week.
In general, most other big clubs pay their star players more than us, but United pays average players more than any other club. I kinda understand Sancho in 350k/week cause he was supposed to be one of the top young players and our talisman (albeit we could have offered half that and he would have signed), but we have Maguire in 190k, Henderson in 120k and my favorite, Brandon Williams is somehow in 65k/week when he probably would struggle to get 6.5K/week at any other club.