Maguire | he stays!

Damn. That reads like a brief straight from United. Deal definitely off, then. We're stuck with the big, slow (and presumably now miserable) lummox.

No chance at all of Pavard/Todibo/Tapsoba now, either.
Pavard was the most likely and he divided opinion on here. It’s not the worst news. Midfield is more important to address this summer.
 
Anyone have insight to what West Ham forum are saying?

Haven't looked in depth but they're not too flustered. Some thought Maguire could be an OK signing... But they can probably find a decent younger CB at that price. Tah was offered to them.
In general just worried at how slow their business is taking so not unlike here.
 
Haven't look in depth but they're not too flustered. Some thought Maguire could be an OK signing... But they can probably find a decent younger CB at that price. Tah was offered to them.
In general just worried at how slow their business is taking so not unlike here.
Fair enough, objectively he would have been good there, guess they are not all too gutted though.
 
You can bet your ass that he construed EtH's comments as an encouragement to actually fight for his place and decided that's enough to cling on.

Nah, we just didn't cough up the payoff he and his agent were hoping for. I'd guess the deal was dead at the point EtH made those comments, otherwise he wouldn't have made them. He won't be fighting for anything - he's the Premier League's most expensive bench warmer for the next two years.
 
The only reason he's staying is because ETH made it clear that him fighting for his place is still an option. If the alternative was rotting in the U-21s, he would've left.
 
There will be a massive meltdown next time he makes a mistake. About 95% of the fans dislike him at his point, why stay?
 
What a total disaster. All optimism for the new season sapped before it's even begun!
 
This is almost as disappointing as our performance yesterday. We fecked up big time, again. Could have actually got decent money from him and McTominay if we weren't a terribly run club.
 
If he can stop slowing down the game and not try to play that diagonal pass every time he gets the ball, I will be happy(ier) for a start.
 
We look awful every time he plays. This is so annoying and the manager is making a very risky move by keeping him. He cost him last season and will do again.
 
I hope once we have our defenders all fit, he doesn't even make the bench. Staying to fight for nothing.

The club have known for all of last season that his role was going to diminish, that they likely need to begin to look at replacements. Saying there isn't enough time is a load of rubbish.
 
Gives us a chance to scout a replacement for a year who should be genuine competition for Varane and Martinez.
 
Putting him on the bench last night was silly. It showed him that he’s a squad player.

Yeah, EtH fecked up big time with that one. The man needs no encouragement whatsoever. He's like the dude who misconstrues momentary momentary eye contact from a girl as genuine interest. EtH could beat him like a red-headed stepchild and Maguire would find tough love in it.

feck sake.
 
Nah, we just didn't cough up the payoff he and his agent were hoping for. I'd guess the deal was dead at the point EtH made those comments, otherwise he wouldn't have made them. He won't be fighting for anything - he's the Premier League's most expensive bench warmer for the next two years.
Exactly. The line of him fighting for his place is just to save face. If we were to say we weren’t paying him out what he wanted, and he stays, that creates a horrific atmosphere.
 
Can’t believe Maguire and Henderson will still be here this season.
 
I hate this club. Can't sell fecking ANYONE. Should have taken that 60m for him and Scott when we had the chance. Oh well. Stupid greedy twats. Wouldn't be surprised if they sold Bruno and Rashford for 15m each. United are incapable of actually selling any fecking players about that price.
 
Centre back is one of our strongest areas so I’m personally happy that slab head remains as fourth/ fifth choice! Hopefully we can focus on the area we really need to strengthen over the last couple of weeks…an energetic defensive minded midfielder
 
Which will only happen if he agrees to it, and to do that he would be giving up what he is legally entitled to from United.

Why would he give up £7m?
Because if he’s frozen at 30 years old that effectively ends his career with that 7m.
Bogarde chose that path. Not that many off the top of my head.
 
Anyone have insight to what West Ham forum are saying?
In my head there's a bunch of pearly kings and queens dancing around tapping spoons on their knees and each other very happy right now, having a good old fashioned cockney knees up. That might just be me though. Can't imagine they are too upset to be honest, even though he would probably have been good for them. With the way his attitude seems to have gone it might be best avoided.
 
I hate this club. Can't sell fecking ANYONE. Should have taken that 60m for him and Scott when we had the chance. Oh well. Stupid greedy twats.
We've literally sold Elanga, Fred, Kovar, Telles, Iqbal and let DDG, Axel and Jones go...
 
Said it a long time ago... Maguires biggest problem is his mental ego. When he was captain he kept refering to it in various press conferences as well as the fact that he wasn't being dropped rather than admitting that he had played poorly. Ten hag came through and made it clear after 2 games that Maguire wasn't going to start for him. Maguire on his end firmly believed that the problem was lisandro Martinez or de gea...never him

This summer, it was reported that Maguire himself considered the initial 20m bid by westham to be too low. Think about that for a second, the player and not the club believed the bid was too low. Maguire is among the few players to actually get hyped over the price manutd paid for him. He actually thinks he is an 80m pound player whether or not he plays well

For me there is little surprise that he looks down on a 30m westham bid... people just don't understand it but Maguires real problem is the ego. This dude didn't even really care about being dropped until ten hag took the captaincy off him. Once again, it was the first time for me to see a player make a statement about losing the captaincy like it was a big surprise.

Don't be surprised if he is okay sitting there and being 4th or 5th choice until his contract runs out. Phil Jones taught him well and many have said it before....ole did wayyy more damage to the club than we will ever know. A player like Phil Jones should have been released eons ago inorder to discourage such behaviour but instead we rewarded it. Maguire is just the next Phil Jones
 
To be fair, if it's true Moyes hasn't spoken to him all this time then that's on West Ham. If it wasn't true I expect West Ham/Moyes to say otherwise but it if it is, it does imply he may not have actually felt that wanted there (either)
 
Nah, we just didn't cough up the payoff he and his agent were hoping for. I'd guess the deal was dead at the point EtH made those comments, otherwise he wouldn't have made them. He won't be fighting for anything - he's the Premier League's most expensive bench warmer for the next two years.

Sigh..........Looks like I'll have to get back on the anti-depressants this season.
 
To be fair, if it's true Moyes hasn't spoken to him all this time then that's on West Ham. If it wasn't true I expect West Ham/Moyes to say otherwise but it if it is, it does imply he may not have actually felt that wanted there (either)
Depends on how the negotiations ended. If Maguire rejected the contract offer there’s not much to discuss with Moyes.
 
Because if he’s frozen at 30 years old that effectively ends his career with that 7m.
Bogarde chose that path. Not that many off the top of my head.
He'll halve his salary at WHUM and United are very valuable for players to monetise other revenue streams.
It's abundantly clear he isn't that keen on going to WHUM, he strikes me as content with his career and somewhat deluded in how he is perceived but it is what it is. The club's fault, hand out silly contracts to average players and pay the price.
 
He's fifth choice centre-back so him staying really isn't the disaster some will have you think. I think people were giddy about Pavard coming in but I'm not sure he's what we need either. Gives the clubs another year to identify a new centre-back and hopefully we can now wrap up Amrabat.
 
Just happy to call himself a United player like Lingard. Way too content with himself at United which is why he ended up shit. Feck off!!