Maguire | he stays!

Withnail said:
He's entitled to stay and get paid as per his contract so he is entitled to that money. If we want to get rid of him, he doesn't want to go and the pay cut is massive he's right to ask for a sweetener. I'd think less of him if he didn't.

Are you telling me you'd go to a lesser team with half the wages? You'd just suck it up, would you?
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Yes he’s entitled to stay and get paid. He’s not entitled to future earnings. We want to get rid that is much clear.

so he has two options:
1. He stays and picks up his pay check. Most likely he loses his England spot. Loses his all sort of form and his next contract after two years becomes a huge question mark.

2. he takes a pay cut but gets regular playing time. Might keep his place on the national team. Barring injuries he will get much better contract offer after 2 years.

taking option 2 with the benefits from option 1 is cnutish thing to do.

How many cases of pro footballers are there that are similar to Bogarde and similar to flops taking pay cuts to play regularly on another team ?
 
In the real world you would be sacked/let go when you are unable to perform the job that you were employed to do.

Thing is he will get a nice signing on fee from next club anyway, I understand the perceived entitlement of the rest of the contract but his PR is really doing him no favours whatsoever.
 
Withnail said:
We definitely need to replace him so yeah he has some bargaining power. I'd rather we paid the man and got someone else but it depends how close we are to FFP limits. This could all be brinkmanship though and the deal could still get done. West Ham looking at other targets smacks of a negotiating tactic to hurry us up. They aren't going to get another deal over the line in a couple of days either so this will rumble on for the week at least I'd say.
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Agreed. Its a slow burn of a transfer. Like you said, this will get done soon.
 
Fridge chutney said:
I don't agree with your figures at all. He will only be 32 when he exits his United contract. CBs are often still close to their prime at that age, especially those with good injury records like Maguire. He is a meme and out of form but still commands 100k at 30. I don't see him dropping by 80% in 2 years, and even if that happens he will likely end up ahead financially than by leaving millions on the table.

He is making the right decision in my opinion (pressing United to pay the difference).
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So if Maguire is sidelined for 2 years, not playing competitive football, with questionable physical attributes at 30, let alone at 32 he’ll command 80k per week? Only in dreamworld.

we see players completely out of form for 2 months during summer break, let alone 2 years..
 
Jesus wept, take a hint man. Quite literally nobody wants you at this club.

I pray this is just his agent briefing the media to put pressure on us to agree a better settlement.
 
He’s entitled to what he wants. It’s a shame that his England place won’t be in much jeopardy and he knows it. Southgate is all talk and quite conservative, he will still probably pick Jordan Henderson too despite him moving to Saudi.
 
F-Red said:
This is the fundamentals of a players contract. Nearly all transfers have player compensation built into it, unless the player is out of contract, the difference here is that Maguire and the club can't agree on a figure.
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Not if he’s serving another contract at another club.
 
FerociousCorgis said:
i mean should the agent not be advising him on his overall career as well? If maguire sits on our bench/reserves and southgate actually has the balls to drop him is the death of his england career worth the extra couple of million? Not sure if being on the team for euros would open up any extra endorsement money or anything, assuming it is prob different than would be over here in USA. I would hope the agent would show him that he is still going to be making a good amount of money to play a game, and that if he loses out on one of the last years on his career a the top level he will regret it. Idk.
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Realistically this Euros is his last tournament anyway, and he's still got a reasonable chance of making the squad even if he's spent the season playing backup for us.

He's also still likely to command a reasonably high wage leaving us on a free at the end of his contract. The difference is he'll have spent two years on a much higher wage, will possibly be due some form of loyalty payout from us, and could demand a decent signing on fee from the new club.

It'd be terrible advice to tell him to just go.

That said, if he's not managed to convince EtH to play him, I think he's likely to go next summer, if not in January.
 
Yeah the ETH comments this week were abit weird and suggested or at least led the player to believe he should stay and fight for his place if he were a real man! Backfired spectacularly
 
He started 8 league games last season and that's with him being ahead of Lindelof at the start of the season.

Any notion that he wants to challenge for his place is nonsense. He knows he won't play but is happy to sit on the contract instead of going out to play games.
 
Plastic Evra said:
His side of the story :

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Where's the personal and professional pride?

He's 5th choice ffs, was stripped of the captaincy and gets booed by his own supporters every time he touches the ball yet there's zero sense of urgency for a change of scenery and to restart his own career
 
Withnail said:
Yeah but you'd surely play hardball a little bit to get a few million in your sky rocket if your agent told you he'd get it for you wouldn't you?

Thing is the deal isn't dead yet. I think it still gets done and we get Pavard in.
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Sure about that?
 
No one thinks that West ham have tried to pull their usual we are skint and can't pay much act? This doesn't quite work when you've sold a player for British transfer record.
 
Based Adnan said:
He started 8 league games last season and that's with him being ahead of Lindelof at the start of the season.

Any notion that he wants to challenge for his place is nonsense. He knows he won't play but is happy to sit on the contract instead of going out to play games.
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Or he could turn out every week for West Ham for a lot less cash and maybe even get relegated. I’d be going no where either after hearing very positive manager remarks all week!
 
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