He knows his time is up, when Luke Shaw, a LWB is picked before you at CB - its time to go.
The only issue is will he take a reduction on his almost £200k a week wages? or will he play the "I want to stay and fight for my place" card.
The other option is we subsidise his wages at whichever club he goes to. That plus the hit we will take on his transfer fee - he has been a costly mistake for us.
Maguire isn't good enough for a club that big.Chelsea still plays a 38 y.o. Thiago Silva. With Poch there, you'd think they'll be interested in Maguire.
Chelsea double swooped Maguire and Kane this Summer, Poch can create that "family vibe" he's after. Kane, Maguire, Chilwell, Mount, Sterling.. just like the good ol' days.
If he hadn't had so many poor performances then that would have helped.If he, Maguire, hadn’t had the wage his on and if he would have been a more outspoken person he would have been moaning to the press already. Sitting on the bench, being booed when substituted, being mocked in the newspapers etc. He can’t enjoy life. But on the flip side, taking a big wage cut, play in another worse side and, if things go wrong, still being booed and mocked. Hard place to be I guess.
I’m pretty sure Maguire and the “young British core” concept was sold to him by Mike Phelan.Seeing as he wanted to sign him so desperately, maybe Woodward could pay his wages and hire Maguire as his personal assistant.
He has to go. He adds nothing to our squad at this point. He isn't even a reliable 4th choice.
I'd keep him to save money on a new CB this summer, instead spend the money in CM and CF.
Mourinho wanted Maguire very badly. He says it in interviews on sky. The following regime just OKed a deal that bad been a year in the works... Sounded like we knocked 10m off the price for the year wait, classic unitedI’m pretty sure Maguire and the “young British core” concept was sold to him by Mike Phelan.
For once, sitting on his arse wouldn't work for Maguire as it does/did for Lingard, Van de Beek, Mata, Martial, Brandon Williams etc. Maguire actually has his England place to lose. Remains to be seen whether the money matters more to him than his England place.
Mourinho wanted Maguire very badly. He says it in interviews on sky. The following regime just OKed a deal that bad been a year in the works... Sounded like we knocked 10m off the price for the year wait, classic united
People assume that most footballers care about playing week in week out. Some of them just doesnt and being on a 200k per week on the bench beats playing regularly on 80k per week. At the end of the day they're professional who play for the team who paid the most.
Some players who can enjoy both would gladly move as it's a no brainer. Players like Jonny Evans would have no problem moving down the ladder since they got to play, command roughly same pay, and it's not actually a hard choice.
At this rate the only way to oust Maguire is if we subsidised part of his hefty salary and move him on in order to afford some face saving. Not good having him on 200k perweek stinking up the place either way. To play him is to lose point.
The only logical solution is to force him using the only power we have. Money
Offer him a golden handshake and part ways amicably, or turn this into an ugly affair by benchin him, or even play him in the reserves along with u18 boys.
Cruel? Maybe. But I'd do it if I were Ten Haag. We need to be ruthless. Some players have been taking us to the cleaner and it's time to set some groundrules.
I think he'll want to move to be honest. I also think he'll get a good salary 120k+ a week at a few clubs
Going from guaranteed starter and captain to 5th choice CB is wild, but it shows how much he was favored by the previous manager.
He's finished here. 5th choice CB.
He dont have much time left on the big money. If i were him I'd cling to the 200k per week as long as i can. It's never to late to step down anyway, if he can milk another 2 good years why waste it.
At the end of the day playing for United is still better financially than playing for middle or bottom half team it's practically holding the white flag and says you're done as a top footballer.
He really have nothing much to lose finishing his contract with us.
I'm not saying its not an option, just saying I don't think he will, and I think he'll want to play.
His ego won't allow him to be 5th choice CB at United even for 200k, remember we have a LB playing CB ahead of him.
The move is there. It's on him. Anytime he said I'm willing to accept 80k or thereabout and instruct his agent to sound it around he'll be out.
I even think we dont mind paying him 80k to move if that's what he wants. 80 plus 80 is 160 good enough money wise.
It's just probably not an easy steps to take taking the step down. Not when he still think he's good. People can be delusional sometimes and simply refused to admit he's not as good as he thought he was.
Yep.
To be kept out by Lindelof and an out of position Shaw, whilst Martinez is out, is pure curtains.
Just hope we can get a decent sort of fee in.
Anything over 30m is good business.Yep.
To be kept out by Lindelof and an out of position Shaw, whilst Martinez is out, is pure curtains.
Just hope we can get a decent sort of fee in.
Seems like an unbelievable narrative especially given the clout mourinho had going into final season. Maguire had a good year that year so possible that swayed it. More likely that we were in negotiations for a year similar to Shaw herrera Bruno and SanchoActually no they insisted on the deal, because Phelan worked with him before.
The club scouts told Jose he wasn't better than what we had, I don't think we sign him if Ole/Phelan didn't insist
Actually I'm fairly certain we paid 10m more. From memory all the reports were that Leicester wanted 70m when Mourinho was trying to sign him, then when we went back 12 months later we ended up having to pay 80m.Mourinho wanted Maguire very badly. He says it in interviews on sky. The following regime just OKed a deal that bad been a year in the works... Sounded like we knocked 10m off the price for the year wait, classic united
Mourinho wanted Maguire very badly. He says it in interviews on sky. The following regime just OKed a deal that bad been a year in the works... Sounded like we knocked 10m off the price for the year wait, classic united
Seems like an unbelievable narrative especially given the clout mourinho had going into final season. Maguire had a good year that year so possible that swayed it. More likely that we were in negotiations for a year similar to Shaw herrera Bruno and Sancho
More likely briefed at end of summer after the club couldn't make a deal with Leicester looking for 90m. I say more likely as the club paid a record price for the player 9 months laterThe briefs around this were all over the press.
Jose wanted a CB any, the club didn't think Maguire was better than what we had (according to what was briefed by the club at the time). Whether or not that was the club putting Jose in his pace who knows but that was what was put out there.
More likely briefed at end of summer after the club couldn't make a deal with Leicester looking for 90m. I say more likely as the club paid a record price for the player 9 months later
It's all just paper talk I am just recounting what I recall and what the papers said, unless I am getting confused with the timing of it allLeicester wanted 70m
Source is SunSport so probably completely rubbish. But for 50m (even in Euros) I would drive him to Paris myself and even throw in tickets for the Louvre.
£26m is our break-even for Maguire (remaining book value), so anything above that number will improve our ffp (provided that the reported £80m transfer fee is correct).Can any boffins tell me how much we would need to sell him for to improve rather than worsen our ffp position?
Interesting thanks. I would be surprised if we got much more than £30m for him, in which case it wouldn't improve our ffp by much (unless getting his wages of our books does)£26m is our break-even for Maguire (remaining book value), so anything above that number will improve our ffp (provided that the reported £80m transfer fee is correct).
