Memphis was and still is one of the hottest young talents in Europe.
Pretty similar to Di Maria in that he started off pretty well (particularly in Europe) before LVG drained every last ounce of confidence from him.
He is definitely not Zaha 2.0
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Pretty similar to Di Maria in that he started off pretty well (particularly in Europe) before LVG drained every last ounce of confidence from him.
He is definitely not Zaha 2.0
LVG believes in youth.
How does anything that deluded Dutch turd does make any sense?!
I hate the man more each day.
He didn't start of well.
Yes, against Club Brugge, but he was shite in most matches in the league.
And it was not because of lack of playing time.
Van Gaal gave Depay quite a lot of chances despite him not producing very much in the league (2 goals and 1 assist with countless poor performances)
You shouldn't bring up the Club Brugge match to show how well he started off and that LVG ruined his confidence because he had a good game in Feb/March against similar shit level opposition in Midgyland...and then went back to crap
Dropping Depay as the season wore on was fair enough, far too many no shows from him in the first few months.
LVG's philosophy clearly hasn't helped him, and not having a decent left back in support hasn't helped much either. He might still have a chance, although I really don't think Mourinho will be endeared with his lack of work ethic. Still have a better shot under Mou than LVG though.
Depay is not the sort of player you want to receive the ball after 25 metronomic passes from one side of the pitch to the other, with all the pressure that entails. He's not the sort of player you want on the ball when you're 1-0 up and more concerned with possession than attacking. He's clearly a player built to thrive on the counterattack.
LVG's philosophy clearly hasn't helped him, and not having a decent left back in support hasn't helped much either. He might still have a chance, although I really don't think Mourinho will be endeared with his lack of work ethic. Still have a better shot under Mou than LVG though.
Depay is not the sort of player you want to receive the ball after 25 metronomic passes from one side of the pitch to the other, with all the pressure that entails. He's not the sort of player you want on the ball when you're 1-0 up and more concerned with possession than attacking. He's clearly a player built to thrive on the counterattack.
Memphis is actually very good against poor opposition.
He was great in the Dutch league (where teams/players are of lower quality).
Against Brugge and Midgetland, he was excellent.
However, the moment he comes up against a half decent EPL team, he is done for.
IMO, he needs to move to another league (I said the same about Falcao last season). If he stays in the EPL and bombs next season, too, then his confidence could hit rock bottom and he may never recover (just like Falcao).
He was great in the Dutch league (where teams/players are of lower quality).
Against Brugge and Midgetland, he was excellent.
However, the moment he comes up against a half decent EPL team, he is done for.
IMO, he needs to move to another league (I said the same about Falcao last season). If he stays in the EPL and bombs next season, too, then his confidence could hit rock bottom and he may never recover (just like Falcao).
It's been a tough couple of years for us fans, but I reckon when I look back at Van Gaal's reign in 20 years time, I'll appreciate that it happened just for that time he got bolloxed at the POTY awards. A cup win would be a nice bonus, too.
Completely this.
Reminds me of me as a player, amazing at smashing absolute mugs, with a bit of pace and one trick, but breathtakingly average against decent players.
Say what you say about settling in etc, but surely being able to get a free kick on target shouldn't take any adjusting. Presumably it's similar footballs, pitch and walls...
yet he was a don over there with them.
Something doesn't add up.
Confidence.
I'm not even sure it's that simple. He didn't have spells of good then bad games, it was very isolated good games.
I'm worried it's actually a severely overrated player we have on our hands.
However, Mourinho will soon work it out. Janzaj too.
Yes he's not been very good but has our captain? who should be head and shoulders above everyone else, no, he's been shite all season apart from a few decent recent performances so I'll give Memphis a bit of leeway myself!
Exactly, he has just become a scapegoat. Rooney has been the worst in relation to his usual level.
I still have faith in Depay. He needs a manager to give him confidence and let him be arrogant, flashy etc whilst learning how to play. VG is like an old teacher, probably tried to make Depay write lines
So why hasn't Martial been writing the same lines?
Like many others have stated. It's alarming how Depay looks good against Brugge and then goes back to being average against a half decent team. I don't even think he's a winger.
Van Gaal shouldn't be blamed for Depay.
Depay won't last long under Mourinho.
I don't rate Memphis. The guy's a knob.
Because everyone is different.
He's had a shite season, definitely, but it's a bit daft to write him off yet, look how shit Lamela was for Spurs for the longest time, and how he's come good.
Sat waiting for the train to go to London, dodgy tracksuit , matching trainers with white socks, he looks like Uncle Knobhead the night after getting pissed at a family party.
Completely agree. Compare that to Evra's comments about learning the club's history after he joined. LVG didn't even know how many of his current squad had won titles.
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Blind Rojo
Martial Lingard Carrick Fellaini Rooney
Rashford
That's what I reckon the fool will go with. Fellaini is nailed on to start with Van Gaals recent comments about set pieces. He may get sent off today, CP players will be pulling his hair for fun.
My ideal XI
DDG
TFM Smalling Blind CBJ
Hererra Mata Schneiderlin Young
Martial Rashford
Subs Carrick, Rooney, Valencia, Romero, Periera,
I can't wait, cause it's a cup final... But I'm finding it hard to get excited for watching a team that will include; Rojo, Valencia, Fellaini, Carrick, Rooney & Lingard.
Fellaini, Carrick, Rooney are too slow when the play together.
Carrick is past it, Rooney will be doing his hail-Mary diagonal balls all day in his transformation to Stevie 'G' and Fellaini is the worst player in living memory to wear a Utd jersey. He's there because he's tall.... Hardly a former prerequisite to play for Utd. He's not even good in the air!!!
Lingard is just poor. Bags of energy, but a bad touch,can't shoot & void of good decisions.
Looks like Luis faith in the youth has been exposed as the fraud we all know it's been; he dropped most of them like hot potatoes for the final.
That said... It's FA cup final day, it's Man Utd, so I'm hoping the players draw on the magic themselves as opposed to Luis and his negative tactical dross. I'm off to get the train to hopefully the first trophy win of the post-SAF era & the last game of the Dutch fraud's reign of shame. Win win.... Hopefully!
Come on you reds!
Valencia Smalling Blind Rojo
Martial Lingard Carrick Fellaini Rooney
Rashford
That's what I reckon the fool will go with. Fellaini is nailed on to start with Van Gaals recent comments about set pieces. He may get sent off today, CP players will be pulling his hair for fun.
My ideal XI
DDG
TFM Smalling Blind CBJ
Hererra Mata Schneiderlin Young
Martial Rashford
Subs Carrick, Rooney, Valencia, Romero, Periera,
I can't wait, cause it's a cup final... But I'm finding it hard to get excited for watching a team that will include; Rojo, Valencia, Fellaini, Carrick, Rooney & Lingard.
Fellaini, Carrick, Rooney are too slow when the play together.
Carrick is past it, Rooney will be doing his hail-Mary diagonal balls all day in his transformation to Stevie 'G' and Fellaini is the worst player in living memory to wear a Utd jersey. He's there because he's tall.... Hardly a former prerequisite to play for Utd. He's not even good in the air!!!
Lingard is just poor. Bags of energy, but a bad touch,can't shoot & void of good decisions.
Looks like Luis faith in the youth has been exposed as the fraud we all know it's been; he dropped most of them like hot potatoes for the final.
That said... It's FA cup final day, it's Man Utd, so I'm hoping the players draw on the magic themselves as opposed to Luis and his negative tactical dross. I'm off to get the train to hopefully the first trophy win of the post-SAF era & the last game of the Dutch fraud's reign of shame. Win win.... Hopefully!
Come on you reds!
The end is near!
Nailed it.
He is staying until he is told that he is gone. He has too much pride to admit anything else before its official. But strange man ideed
Can't believe this is his last match, there's light at the end of the tunnel, he's been awful. Thanks for Martial, Rashford, Smalling, DDG, Shaw and a little bit for Blind, otherwise just awful and not good enough. Has had a mixed career, has had good moments with Bayern, Ajax, Barcelona, the Netherlands, but also terrible spells with Barcelona, the Netherlands, Bayern and Man United, enjoy your pension, enjoy life in Portugal with your wife and family, but thankfully, it's all over after today, and we can finally move forward as a club.
Everyone talks about the negatives and the horrid 2 years in particular this season but can anyone list the positives of lvg time at United? I have listed some below:
Introduction of youth players
Improvement in Smalling
Training facilities updated
More tactically astute when we play against the so called big teams.
Anything else?
Introduction of youth players
Improvement in Smalling
Training facilities updated
More tactically astute when we play against the so called big teams.
Anything else?
Signing of Martial and Shaw is a massive one
Got rid of a lot of players, massively reducing the wage bill and recuperating a large proportion of what he spent
Best defence in the league
The next manager will inherit the best defence in the league and attacking talents like Martial and Rashford.
People talk about LVG wasting loads of money but he's actually spent relatively little looking at net spend. The fact he's reduced the wage bill is also important.
I'm very optimistic about where we are.
whether he believes he is staying or not, he has to put up the façade for the sake of the cup final. Look what happens elsewhere when announced the manager is toast
It's funny how Brugge was used to enhance Rooney's credibility earlier this season but it doesn't hold true for Memphis.
You only have to look at our woeful attempts at defending set pieces this season and how any half decent attack with pace managed to cut right through our 'best defence in the league' to see that the reality is far worse than the base statistic. The parts that actually require competent coaching and preparation have been our biggest weak points under LVG consistently, and playing a death by passing game that tries to suffocate any speed or momentum would of course lower our goals against, but it's also the primary reason why United games have seen one of the lowest goal totals in the football league and why we couldn't even manage 50 league goals this season. De Gea deserves credit but as goalkeeper he's really only doing his job, though there have been so many occasions where he's had to go above and beyond to save our skin this season in particular. Our defence in 07/08 that only conceded 22 while we scored 80 was an example of a truly great defence, this season's is not even close IMO.
Mate, I laid into Rooney big time and did not use (his hattrack against) Brugge to say that he was fantastic/great, etc.
I said before and still say this: Rooney is not good enough to play for MUFC.
Re: Memphis: he should be given a chance under Jose. If he continues to fail, he needs to move to another/weaker league.
without de gea our defensive record would look nowhere near as good.
CBJ and Lingard out, Rojo and Fellaini in. Jones on the bench. Loves youth does our Louis.
I still laugh at these comments. He used young players beacsue he had to, not beacasue he wanted to.
I just hope he doesn't hear the gun's click before the bullet pierces his brain stem. poor guy.
And even if the small squad was by design he still dumps the youth players as soon as he can, Rashford being the only exception. What justification could he have for Jones being I'm the squad over CBJ?
He's young. And he's in Europe.
He's about as hot as a cup of coffee that's been left on the side for an hour.
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