I wonder if he pissed his bed and tortured animals when he was younger.
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I wonder if he pissed his bed and tortured animals when he was younger.
Because it's a load of bollocks, having a team of serial champion winning players doesn't necessarily mean you will win the league, take Leicester as an example. What does make you Champions is a winning mentality instilled into the player, coaches and staff collectively which is something he hasn't been able to do or more accurately incapable of doing. Saying otherwise is ridiculous. I'd have more respect for him if he came out and said that he hasn't been able to put the belief into the players etc to be winning and it's something he needs to work on, using it as an excuse is a insult not only to the players but the club as well. This club has been used to winning title, being Champions, players come and go but the club as a whole continued to be Champions
You do realize that before the EPL we didn't have a history of winning the title?
Listen to the video above again, he is not making excuses about United's performances or competitiveness. Also,look at one of the most recent threads about this topic and you will find there are loads of posters who think it is strange to attack him for this video. You can also read the Leicester and Spurs threads to see similar comments about the luxury of playing the same side, countless threads about the United injury crisis. Sure he got facts wrong about the players, but who really gives a feck. Obviously a load of fans who want to continuously find fault in him. There are enough reasons to want him out without getting outraged over trivial things. Did you want him sacked on the spot when he said Mike Smalling, which is probably worse?
The whole "players aren't champions" excuse is pretty weak. No player is born a champion in the first place. There's a reason why these non-champions aren't going to win the league this year and it's certainly not because they're "not champions".
You can have the most motivated players in the world in your team and they'd still struggle when they're forced to play LVG's rigid style.
You can have the most motivated players in the world in your team and they'd still struggle when they're forced to play LVG's rigid style.
It's even worse than that...
The Guardian 2015/2016 Premier League Predictions
August 2015
...that's just the sports journalists from ONE newspaper!
Leicester have defied all expectations whilst our manager keeps lowering ours.
Old age may be catching up to me, but I thought we had won 7 league titles before the introduction of the Premier league.
He is an idiot, there's really no other explanation. This quotes and those about the lack of "champions" in our squad where de Gea hasn't won a title and Carrick won once, maybe more is something that only idiots could say. I am not sure smart person would say any of that.
I've said this before but I don't care what he says in pressers.
The main issue I have is with our performances on the pitch. We have been extremely boring to watch and it doesn't help that his game plan is to score 1 goal per game. When you add the 4th/5th place trophy target - that's enough for me to say that he needs to leave, asap.
Let another manager have a go at trying to get us playing better (attempting to attack and score more goals) and winning trophies << this is what MUFC is about.
The main issue I have is with our performances on the pitch. We have been extremely boring to watch and it doesn't help that his game plan is to score 1 goal per game. When you add the 4th/5th place trophy target - that's enough for me to say that he needs to leave, asap.
Let another manager have a go at trying to get us playing better (attempting to attack and score more goals) and winning trophies << this is what MUFC is about.
Here is a funny article to let you know how clueless he is and how he is trying to change the narrative...
http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/30/does-...t-know-his-manchester-united-players-5850667/
Manchester United host Leicester City this Sunday in what could prove to be a title decider for the visitors.
They are three points away from winning the Premier League so a victory at Old Trafford could make them champions.
Had some claimed this fixture could determine the league winners a few years ago, the obvious presumption would have been that United were about to claim the title again. When United were last champions in 2013, Leicester were sixth in the Championship.
When Louis van Gaal was asked about whether it was a strange position for United to be in, the manager had a very strange response.
‘The players who are now playing, they are not used to being champions,’ he said. ‘I don’t think Matteo Darmian is used to being a champion and David De Gea was never champion, so I don’t agree with the way you make the question.
‘Memphis Depay was a champion last year so not many players. Rooney, Carrick, they have been the champions once, or maybe more than once.’
The most obvious rebuttal to this is the claim that Wayne Rooney and Michael Carrick might have been champions once, when combined they have 10 Premier League titles between them.
Another obvious mistake is his claim that De Gea has never been a champion, when in fact he won the league with United just three seasons ago.
However, the corrections don’t end there, with Van Gaal saying that the current players aren’t used to being champions, with the exception of Memphis Depay, who won the league in Holland last season with PSV Eindhoven.
Bastian Schweinsteiger won eight Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, which gives him ample experience of being a champion.
Daley Blind won the league four times with Ajax, Marouane Fellaini was a champion Standard Liege, Marcos Rojo with Estudiantes in Argentina, and Sergio Romero was Van Gaal’s goalkeeper with title winning AX Alkmaar.
Chris Smalling and Antonio Valencia have won the title twice with United, while Ashley Young and Phil Jones have done it once.
In fact, other than United’s academy players, who’ve only just started featuring in the first team, there are just six players in the squad who are ‘not used to being champions’.
Two of those players were teenagers when they signed, Anthony Martial and Luke Shaw, so it’s understandable with just a few years of professional football under their belt, they have yet to win a title.
Also, while Juan Mata hasn’t won a league title, he has won the World Cup and European Championship with Spain, as well as the Champions League with Chelsea, suggesting he knows exactly how it feels to be a champion.
That leaves Ander Herrera, Morgan Schneiderlin and Matteo Darmian. So for Van Gaal to dismiss his players, in a vain attempt to defend the fact he is leading a team of proven winners to fifth in the Premier League, is embarrassing.
Van Gaal is trying to protect his legacy now, probably because he knows he’s going to be replaced this summer, but he’s shown himself up with these remarks.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/30/does-...t-know-his-manchester-united-players-5850667/
Manchester United host Leicester City this Sunday in what could prove to be a title decider for the visitors.
They are three points away from winning the Premier League so a victory at Old Trafford could make them champions.
Had some claimed this fixture could determine the league winners a few years ago, the obvious presumption would have been that United were about to claim the title again. When United were last champions in 2013, Leicester were sixth in the Championship.
When Louis van Gaal was asked about whether it was a strange position for United to be in, the manager had a very strange response.
‘The players who are now playing, they are not used to being champions,’ he said. ‘I don’t think Matteo Darmian is used to being a champion and David De Gea was never champion, so I don’t agree with the way you make the question.
‘Memphis Depay was a champion last year so not many players. Rooney, Carrick, they have been the champions once, or maybe more than once.’
The most obvious rebuttal to this is the claim that Wayne Rooney and Michael Carrick might have been champions once, when combined they have 10 Premier League titles between them.
Another obvious mistake is his claim that De Gea has never been a champion, when in fact he won the league with United just three seasons ago.
However, the corrections don’t end there, with Van Gaal saying that the current players aren’t used to being champions, with the exception of Memphis Depay, who won the league in Holland last season with PSV Eindhoven.
Bastian Schweinsteiger won eight Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, which gives him ample experience of being a champion.
Daley Blind won the league four times with Ajax, Marouane Fellaini was a champion Standard Liege, Marcos Rojo with Estudiantes in Argentina, and Sergio Romero was Van Gaal’s goalkeeper with title winning AX Alkmaar.
Chris Smalling and Antonio Valencia have won the title twice with United, while Ashley Young and Phil Jones have done it once.
In fact, other than United’s academy players, who’ve only just started featuring in the first team, there are just six players in the squad who are ‘not used to being champions’.
Two of those players were teenagers when they signed, Anthony Martial and Luke Shaw, so it’s understandable with just a few years of professional football under their belt, they have yet to win a title.
Also, while Juan Mata hasn’t won a league title, he has won the World Cup and European Championship with Spain, as well as the Champions League with Chelsea, suggesting he knows exactly how it feels to be a champion.
That leaves Ander Herrera, Morgan Schneiderlin and Matteo Darmian. So for Van Gaal to dismiss his players, in a vain attempt to defend the fact he is leading a team of proven winners to fifth in the Premier League, is embarrassing.
Van Gaal is trying to protect his legacy now, probably because he knows he’s going to be replaced this summer, but he’s shown himself up with these remarks.
Very good. And how many of those were in the same decade or with the same squad. How many times did we retain the trophies we won.
United were noted for its football style and its desire to use youth, particularly local youth, not its trophies.
Forming the holy trinity of Best, Law and Charlton after the Munich disaster just increased its attraction to football fans.
No-one would have mentioned, the winning mentality and trophy cabinet in that period, though United eventually had some very decent success.
In all of this, all I can think is "what the heck is Giggs doing?". I know die-hard Giggs fans are happy to claim that Giggs takes 0% blame in both spells as assistant manager but if we remove our red tinted glasses I think he id due some stick as part of the coaching staff. On the outside, we get the impression that Giggs and the manager are a partnership and Giggs at least has some input in the manager's decisions. If he is, then I think I've just gone from disappointed to just get rid of the whole staff including Giggs. If he isn't, then my question is whether he is just a yes man and just bidding his time and waiting for the axe to fall on the manager and probably have a sniff at the job, which isn't a sign of any bottle for a man who people think he should lead the club forward. Either way, the last 2 regimes don't look good on Giggs at all.
I'm only speculating of course but what do people think?
I'm only speculating of course but what do people think?
Is there a way to watch this without going to that disgusting, vile, shit stain of a website?
Thank you, sir.
edit: No idea why that is so bad, a bit cringeworthy, sure, but most things like that usually are. The lad was overwhelmed and didn't know how to react.
edit: No idea why that is so bad, a bit cringeworthy, sure, but most things like that usually are. The lad was overwhelmed and didn't know how to react.
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Waiting for the outrage at his latest comments.
Which ones? I'm finding it hard to keep up with all his bullshit. Feels like he's saying stupid shit every single day.
Agree with you, especially the bits I've highlighted. Apart from the goal keeping coach - I'd kick all the coaching staff out incl Giggs, who seriously needs time away from United (his comfort zone). It's not good having someone hang around waiting for the job. He wants this huge job having never gone out and tried managing where he has 100% accountability. No offence to supporters of Giggs, but I see him as a big big problem.
poor guy. Louis couldn't let go of the fact the fella said he's only a fan of his sometimes. Made an already awkward situation even more so.
He then went on to say even the best make mistakes
Being diplomatic, I suspect. It is probably the best scenario since he is not the manager (yet). I think you're projecting onto the scenario the fact that Giggs doesn't look good. He was a player coach in one (pretty much no point even mentioning that as some sort of "failure" or suggesting that he comes out of it with any disdain) and assistant in the other. Not many people bar the staff inside the walls know his influence and the scale/effectiveness of the job that he is doing. We have to simply wait until the washup to see what kind of effect he has had. Anything we say now is merely speculation with very little to back it up.
One could argue for Giggs and say that maybe since the horrible December he has added a contribution to influence LVG and turn us around.
One could also argue that he has no influence on the matters that have transpired, thus is equally culpable.
Both subjective scenario's are backed up by the same amount of hard credible evidence. Like I said above, we just need to be patient. Throwing subjective stinkeye's at Giggs contribution is traveling well short of being educated on the matter in my opinion.
Well I guess what Giggs has to say at the end of LvG's regime would be pretty interesting
Definitely. I think it will be fascinating - Van Gaal himself doesn't appear to be someone that will go quietly into the night and let the chips lie. He looks like the kind of guy who will throw as much shit around and take anyone down with him. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say about Giggs, vice versa Giggs for Van Gaal.
I guess we should be expecting a book deal for Giggs, if that is the case.
Giggs will keep his mouth shut. That's his default status.
It's a difficult one for me too. I don't really understand the whole 2nd assistant manager business. Albert is obviously LvG's right hand man which is why I'm guessing Giggs's time could have been better utilized getting some experience somewhere else. The whole dynamics is just crazy, heck the whole club is messed up.
Not really sure what that means, to be honest.
He'll say absolutely nothing. He'll just stare at everyone with his beady little eyes like the dangerous sociopath he is.
lol
No, sorry.
He'll just let his 'friends' do his talking like they have been this season. If he didn't agree with them undermining his boss, they wouldn't have done it obviously.
I can't take another season of that shit.
The powers at United must see how distracting his presence is. The whole thing is irritating.
Titanic sank apparently
I think people get hung up too much on what Ryan Giggs does or doesn't do. It was the same with Mike phelan.
Except Mike Phelan wasn't trying to get the top job. That's why we can't help but discuss what Giggs does or doesn't do - if he thinks he can manage this huge club - then it's reasonable to speculate on what it is he's capable of.
Saf once said that Carlos Q would be the next manager. I would take what's been said with a large pinch of salt
There was as many threads about Mike phelan if not more btw
Can see a win today over the mighty Leicester and new wave of 'maybe LVG isn't that bad' in this thread. And more stories that he's staying.
Exactly.
I actually don't care too much what Nicky Butt does, for example.
But if he through his name into the hat of MUFC manager elect - I'd ask what has he done to justify his job application.
I still don't know what Giggs does or if he actually does anything.
And Carlos Q was genuinely a good football manager.
It was well established that he did a lot of the training session with our players and players generally liked him a lot.
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