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united_99 said:
I am tired off LvG as well, but I can't see anything wrong in what he said here
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Did he pick him for the first team or was he almost literally forced to use Rashford due to him binning 3 of our 4 forwards, then Rooney going down injured. and finally our last remining forward Martial, having to miss the same game, while simeltaneously both youth strikers infront of Rashfrod in pecking order... namely... Wilson & Fletcher were both on loan.

Its not like he had the bollocks to drop an underperforming star and threw in a kid in his place is it.
 
If it was any other top club,, then LvG would have been sacked already and become just a distant memory.
 
Natener said:
It's a little David Brent. He could have left it at the academy, coaches and scouts, praising the aspects that are often forgotten. It's not as if it hasn't been highlighted this season that LVG has given quite a few youngsters run outs. But still he couldn't resist bringing up the bit of "Me. You know, me. Don't forget, me. Very important, me."
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I agree, also I bet Twiggs view of the comments would be different if mourinho had said it ;)
 
Natener said:
It's a little David Brent. He could have left it at the academy, coaches and scouts, praising the aspects that are often forgotten. It's not as if it hasn't been highlighted this season that LVG has given quite a few youngsters run outs. But still he couldn't resist bringing up the bit of "Me. You know, me. Don't forget, me. Very important, me."
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yeah, it's a lot of David Brent.
 
Natener said:
It's a little David Brent. He could have left it at the academy, coaches and scouts, praising the aspects that are often forgotten. It's not as if it hasn't been highlighted this season that LVG has given quite a few youngsters run outs. But still he couldn't resist bringing up the bit of "Me. You know, me. Don't forget, me. Very important, me."
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:lol:

fecking hell you people.

He gets criticised for anything, he pulls up a positive and you act like he's a dick.

Bizarre.
 
pocco said:
Hope all those that wanted this deranged, washed up idiot are going to enjoy yet another season of this.
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We will struggle even more next year, trying to scrap for 4th again, get bounced out of the CL early, and LVG will repeat the same inane BS about progress, process and philosophy. I honestly don't know if I can put up with it. Just the thought of it makes me a little bit ill.
 
spwd said:
I agree, also I bet Twiggs view of the comments would be different if mourinho had said it ;)
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Mourinho wouldn't say anything about anyone else, take all the credit, fire his scouting team after they tried to do their job but he drew away at Swansea and get involved in lengthy legal proceedings while falling out with all the reserve players.
 
Minimalist said:
United will deserve everything that comes their way next season (further downfall) if they insist on this Van Gaal/Ryan Giggs plan.

I think a lot of us have mentally checked out at this stage, so it's not like we're incensed anymore but it's still very disappointing to think it could go down that way.
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I think if this happens, it could take us 10 years to recover from this. If fergie is well and truly pulling the strings and influencing decisions it just boggles the mind, if VG stays on and they give the keys to giggs defiantly 10 years of misery. Fergie should be well away from making any opinion to the board, his decision with Moyes should have seen him blocked from any opinion to the board, we will get what we deserve and a write off from any title challenge
 
pseudo_canadian said:
Are you kidding me?

He's practically saying, "The academy have done part in developing the players, but I am truly the one who deserves all of the credit for having the real guts to give them a chance. What a great manager I am."

Read between the lines, it reeks of arrogance.
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You're saying a quote in which he thanks multiple other people reeks of arrogance.
 
Twigginater said:
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fecking hell you people.

He gets criticised for anything, he pulls up a positive and you act like he's a dick.

Bizarre.
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It's not bizarre. He just has little to no credibility with the fans anymore. Nothing he says gains traction so fair or not, he is in a no win situation. But so what, it looks like he will stay another year and you can defend him another year.
 
Oneunited26 said:
I think if this happens, it could take us 10 years to recover from this. If fergie is well and truly pulling the strings and influencing decisions it just boggles the mind, if VG stays on and they give the keys to giggs defiantly 10 years of misery. Fergie should be well away from making any opinion to the board, his decision with Moyes should have seen him blocked from any opinion to the board, we will get what we deserve and a write off from any title challenge
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10 years to recover from a bad manager?

Well at least Chelsea won't be a threat next season. Rodgers has obviously set Liverpool back a decade as well then.
 
Esquire said:
It's not bizarre. He just has little to no credibility with the fans anymore. Nothing he says gains traction so fair or not, he is in a no win situation. But so what, it looks like he will stay another year and you can defend him another year.
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It doesn't look like he will stay another year. There is literally no way of knowing what will happen.
 
Maybe he'll take the credit for us replacing him with a younger man.
 
If he does end up staying, I would have to leave this forum for a few months. This place will be unbearable.
 
Twigginater said:
It doesn't look like he will stay another year. There is literally no way of knowing what will happen.
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I think he is staying, if he does stay, defiantly they want giggs has the next manager which is a bad sign, or someone is influencing that decision to force giggs in that hot seat. Most clubs who sees a top manager available would go out of their way to tie them down, this board not the case it seems
 
BennyBlanco said:
Did he pick him for the first team or was he almost literally forced to use Rashford due to him binning 3 of our 4 forwards, then Rooney going down injured. and finally our last remining forward Martial, having to miss the same game, while simeltaneously both youth strikers infront of Rashfrod in pecking order... namely... Wilson & Fletcher were both on loan.

Its not like he had the bollocks to drop an underperforming star and threw in a kid in his place is it.
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I have already read the long tiresome discussion here before but as far as I am concerned he still picked him (could have played some false striker or such crap or played 6 defenders like Mourinho in a CL semi at home) and later on continued picking him even in big games.
 
Twigginater said:
I honestly can't believe how some people go out of their way to dislike someone. There is absolutely nothing at all wrong with those quotes.
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He is feigning modesty before finally saying what he considers to be the truth - that he has played the crucial role in Rashford's development and is a brave coach for putting him in the team.

If he was such a great coach he wouldn't have to big himself up in press conferences.
 
Twigginater said:
It doesn't look like he will stay another year. There is literally no way of knowing what will happen.
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I think there is a gentleman's agreement with Maureen but its conditional upon LVG's "results" this year. If he hits 4th and wins the FA cup, Woodward can argue that's progress notwithstanding the eye watering performance and the fact that we couldn't even challenge in such a poor league year. Anyway I not not being objective because I want this guy gone yesterday. Whatever happens we all know expectations or not, the team that plays football in front of us week and and out do not play like United in style or in terms of fighting spirit. And that is what kills me.
 
JohnnyKills said:
He is feigning modesty before finally saying what he considers to be the truth - that he has played the crucial role in Rashford's development and is a brave coach for putting him in the team.

If he was such a great coach he wouldn't have to big himself up in press conferences.
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He's never been a humble person so I'm not sure what you were expecting tbh. The difference between arrogance and self confidence is the degree of success and right now he's been missing that.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
He's never been a humble person so I'm not sure what you were expecting tbh. The difference between arrogance and self confidence is the degree of success and right now he's been missing that.
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Yeah fair point I guess. It's all very galling though, particularly when he's serving up such sh*t football.
 
Oneunited26 said:
I think he is staying, if he does stay, defiantly they want giggs has the next manager which is a bad sign, or someone is influencing that decision to force giggs in that hot seat. Most clubs who sees a top manager available would go out of their way to tie them down, this board not the case it seems
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He'll be gone at the end of the season. What sort of message does it portray if we keep a manager who can't get us 4th after spending 250 million? Just be thankful there's only a few games left of his shocking reign.
 
J-Stander said:
He'll be gone at the end of the season. What sort of message does it portray if we keep a manager who can't get us 4th after spending 250 million? Just be thankful there's only a few games left of his shocking reign.
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Saying LVG spent 250 million in his time here is like saying Mourinho spent 275 million in his last two and a half years at Chelsea.
 
Twigginater said:
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fecking hell you people.

He gets criticised for anything, he pulls up a positive and you act like he's a dick.

Bizarre.
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Bizarre that he didn't have to bring himself into the picture and just kept to praising the academy and scouts? And I'm not acting like he's a dick, I'm acting like he's an arrogant dick. SAF was a dick at times, and I don't remember him ever needing to inject himself into answers like LVG.
 
Twigginater said:
I honestly can't believe how some people go out of their way to dislike someone. There is absolutely nothing at all wrong with those quotes.
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I will start. He was forced to play Rashford becasue of the injuries. If it hadn't been for Martial's injury in to warm-up to Midgetland game at OT we would have never heard about Rasford. LVG uses youngsters when he has no choice.
 
Natener said:
That's the thing. On one hand, they don't hesitate to do what is necessary for success even if it meant paying big for players and on the other, they seem to be messing about with the managerial situation. These two aspects doesn't add up which is why I would be incredibly surprised if LVG stays beyond this season.
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The talk around LVG and Woodward being close was worrying. He was clearly seen as some kind of saviour and I suspect it's both loyalty to him, and the misguided notion of not wanting to be seen as a "sacking club" that's saved him so far.

To be honest even a top 4 finish and and FA Cup win shouldn't be enough to save him because his league form is a massive underachievement given the freedom and resources he's been given.

If he stays then things are as bad throughout the club as they've ever been.
 
SteveJ said:
I see history's being rewritten accordingly to our latest failures: anyone with an interest in United knows that 4th place was not stated to be this season's target.
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Unfortunately for many fans (reading this thread), 4th place is now a viable target and is seen as a good achievement.

If the manager in any of the BIG 4 (Madrid, Bayern, Barca, PSG) was in 5th place and targeting 4th and then announced that 4th place is our target, he'd be sacked so fast, he'd first read about his own sacking in the newspapers.
I realise that the above named clubs are currently a class above us, but how can we move into their class, if we keep accepting this top 4 target?
IF the top 4 target is now the real target, then maybe we have no right to hire elite level managers like Jose, Ancelotti or Pep. Maybe managers like Moyes and Giggs is our correct level.

I for one, still believe that Mourinho to MUFC is a done deal (just like when the Pep to MCFC rumours started). The difference is that MCFC made an announcement, while we are staying quiet.
 
Twigginater said:
Mourinho wouldn't say anything about anyone else, take all the credit, fire his scouting team after they tried to do their job but he drew away at Swansea and get involved in lengthy legal proceedings while falling out with all the reserve players.
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Sure. And he'll win us plenty of trophies.

JohnnyKills said:
If he was such a great coach he wouldn't have to big himself up in press conferences.
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Indeed. He'd just make sure that we win every damn game.
 
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Twigginater said:
Yeah, and he took them to near relegation.

I'd rather be where we are now.
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Aaaaah. You prefer to play "safe" and be a mid table team, scoring 1 goal/game, rather than take risks and aim for a big win.
You are risk averse, same as LVG.
You realise that SAF was a huge gambler? He never went for the safe bet and taking risks is what made MUFC/Fergie legendary.
 
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DomesticTadpole said:
We are further than last year,” he said.

“We were in the quarter-finals, now we are in the semi-finals, I believe, that means we are better than last year.

“It’s not to me to judge that I have said that already in former press conferences, so I do my utmost best and I said that we are in the semi-finals of the FA Cup, we are still in the race for fourth in the Premier League and that was our aim.”
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Christ, he really is fecking retarded.
 
Mourinho not coming doesn't mean LVG will stay. Let's find out what happens before throwing toys.
 
sunama said:
Unfortunately for many fans (reading this thread), 4th place is now a viable target and is seen as a good achievement.

If the manager in any of the BIG 4 (Madrid, Bayern, Barca, PSG) was in 5th place and targeting 4th and then announced that 4th place is our target, he'd be sacked so fast, he'd first read about his own sacking in the newspapers.
I realise that the above named clubs are currently a class above us, but how can we move into their class, if we keep accepting this top 4 target?
IF the top 4 target is now the real target, then maybe we have no right to hire elite level managers like Jose, Ancelotti or Pep. Maybe managers like Moyes and Giggs is our correct level.

I for one, still believe that Mourinho to MUFC is a done deal (just like when the Pep to MCFC rumours started). The difference is that MCFC made an announcement, while we are staying quiet.
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Wenger has spent the better part of a decade scratching and clawing for 4th place on the final day of the season and claiming a cup here and there.
 
I actually think regardless of any personal desires by some on the board for LVG to stay, things have gone too far. It would be hell if they hung on to him for another season. The fans are already making their feelings clear. It's really uncomfortable and I doubt sponsors are happy with the depressing atmosphere. At the end of the day, regardless of Woodward's friendship with LVG, he'll be putting his job on the line by continuing with him. I just can't see it. Hard for me to believe Woodward is a dumb ass and not capable of being ruthless. So regardless of finishing top 4 or winning the FA Cup, it won't matter - Woodward should be getting rid of LVG. The atmosphere is already toxic, much less going into another season like this?

There's just no logic to keeping him and I would hope a graduate of physics and accounts is a logical person surely?
 
golden_blunder said:
I know he said it when he arrived, but are you 100% sure he wouldn't sign a new contract if United offered him another 3 years? Imagine that for a moment.

I'm curious, where is the threshold for people like yourself? At what point do you say "enough is enough"
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'People like yourself'.....would you cop on. I have said I want him gone for ages now, I said that I wouldn't be up in arms if he did stay due to winning the FA cup and getting top 4, most likely at City's expense.
 
JohnnyKills said:
The problem is that it seems the club's plan was, or is, to allow LVG to finish his three-year project and then hand over to Giggs. So, if we keep LVG, more than likely we'll get everyone's favourite family man afterwards. So you're not talking about enduring one more year, but two or three.
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That's a different story.
 
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