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Oh yes. Of course.
One thing I'll say about Wenger is that half of their games are pretty damn good.
And scoring 1 goal per game is not in Wenger's philosophy.
One thing I'll say about Wenger is that half of their games are pretty damn good.
And scoring 1 goal per game is not in Wenger's philosophy.
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What, an insignificance? A has been? Shithouses looking at us and thinking, "Hey up, we can take some points off this lot"
fecking love being there tbh
I would love to have won the league this year with LvG (his 2nd season) and then sack him next year because the team was struggling.
Ultimately there's a lot of nonsense being thrown around by those with interests in there being lots of twists and turns in this saga, even where there actually aren't any.
Woodward wants Manchester United to be successful, he will hire Mourinho at the end of the season when it can be deemed a "clean" switch and he can save face on his appointment of LVG, and until the end of the season the noises from Old Trafford will continue to be that we are backing LVG indefinitely.
Even if we finish in the top four however LVG will be gone.
Woodward wants Manchester United to be successful, he will hire Mourinho at the end of the season when it can be deemed a "clean" switch and he can save face on his appointment of LVG, and until the end of the season the noises from Old Trafford will continue to be that we are backing LVG indefinitely.
Even if we finish in the top four however LVG will be gone.
There's very little wrong with what he said about Rashford plus he has already given Joyce and the coaches credit a number of times most recently a couple of days ago saying "It is very important, the development of youth players. He [Joyce] is also playing with a lot of youth players and not especially Under-21 players, but 18-year-olds. It is very important that they play at a higher level because then the step to our team is not so big. Because of that and because Warren has guided them, we can pick up players out of the youth like we have done this year."
that has to be one of the most out of context, ridiculous statements to be made about any football manager anyone has ever sincerely written.
That's not a different story, that's the next paragraph.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/champions-league/van-gaal-unveils-three-year-plan-for-man-united/
(from his first season).
Jesus H Christ, it has got to the stage where I really hope you are the maverick wum I consider you to be. Because nobody can be this mental.
Not going to plan then?
If we're in it of course. Maybe the Europa League is the new CL? No I thought not.
I'd prefer him to be mental. There are already lots of WUMs on here.
Di Maria, Mata and Rooney; if we divided their total assists in the last 5 years by half, it would probably surmount Tottenhams entire squad. But still there is no creativity in there
If he caught his wife in bed with another man he'd still find the positives out of it.
I know what you are trying to say here, there may be some residual benefit to some of the players, that will happen when players are trained by different coaches and managers, they will learn certain things to add to their game they believe suits them from different views on the game, but the reality is when a new manager comes in not only will he move on some of these players who have learned those things, for the remaining players he will completely rip up what they have been doing previously so I don't see what LVG is doing now is going to have a major impact down the line.
He said maybe.
He's gonna be the one that saves me
Positives from LVG reign:
Acquisition (and development) of Martial, a potential world class talent
Bringing some excellent looking young players into the first team, especially Rashford, Fosu Monster and CBJ. You may say this was "luck due to injuries" but he deliberately thinned the squad out which created these opportunities (obviously there was a downside to this as well)
Development of Smalling into a first class centre back
Acquisition of Blind and conversion into a first class centre back
Emergence of Shaw before his injury
Actually dragging *some* half decent performances from previously written off Fellaini and Young (now re-written off !)
Under 21's winning their Championship which suggests some good foundations being built at the club
FA Cup run this year
Reducing the wage bill and offloading a lot of deadwood
Acquisition (and development) of Martial, a potential world class talent
Bringing some excellent looking young players into the first team, especially Rashford, Fosu Monster and CBJ. You may say this was "luck due to injuries" but he deliberately thinned the squad out which created these opportunities (obviously there was a downside to this as well)
Development of Smalling into a first class centre back
Acquisition of Blind and conversion into a first class centre back
Emergence of Shaw before his injury
Actually dragging *some* half decent performances from previously written off Fellaini and Young (now re-written off !)
Under 21's winning their Championship which suggests some good foundations being built at the club
FA Cup run this year
Reducing the wage bill and offloading a lot of deadwood
I am not sure if Smalling is a first class CB and Blind definitely isn't one. And what good is offloading the "deadwood" if the squad did not improve? I do not think he has anything to do with the success of the under 21s. Shaw was a PFA team of the year member before Manchester United. But, I will give him credit for Martial, Rashford and Fosu-Mensah.
According to a lot on here he is shite. Personally I think he's been superb wherever he's ben played, at centre back he's not been bullied, or shown up for pace as many predicted.
Not shite but definitely not a top or "first class centre back".
That's why I'm asking what's your threshold? You would give him another chance next season whereas most fans want him gone now regardless of how the season pans out
Only out performed Moyes by two draws earning him +2 points, and -10 goals conceded. Moyes with his get the byline and cross it tactics beats him by +14 goals scored. Moyes was hated to no end but somehow there's people who still think Van Gaal's term might actually workout given more time and with that comes more money.
Listen to Wenger's excuses and spins from the last 12 years and then compare it to his: there is an eerie similarity between the two.
He had guts to give Rashford a chance when Rooney, Martial, Fellaini were out and Wilson was sent out on loan. And he had the guts to start BJ when Shaw, Rojo, Young & Darmian were out. What a revolutionary manager, this Van Gaal. Viva VG!
He had guts to give Rashford a chance when Rooney, Martial, Fellaini were out and Wilson was sent out on loan. And he had the guts to start BJ when Shaw, Rojo, Young & Darmian were out. What a revolutionary manager, this Van Gaal. Viva VG!
Only out performed Moyes by two draws earning him +2 points, and -10 goals conceded. Moyes with his get the byline and cross it tactics beats him by +14 goals scored. Moyes was hated to no end but somehow there's people who still think Van Gaal's term might actually workout given more time and with that comes more money.
This definitely shows that LVG is as bad as Moyes.
Objectively, LVG is worse than Moyes! He stayed for two years, he sold a full squad, and he bought many players of his own choosing. The result? only 42 goals scored! Boring football...
LVG is a failure, he should have been sacked already. It proves that our owners are not very capable, either. They were hiding behind SAF all these years, but now they have to make decisions on their own and it seems that they are not good at it...
we had better GD with moyes in as many games... that's quite jarring.
Only out performed Moyes by two draws earning him +2 points, and -10 goals conceded. Moyes with his get the byline and cross it tactics beats him by +14 goals scored. Moyes was hated to no end but somehow there's people who still think Van Gaal's term might actually workout given more time and with that comes more money.
56 vs 42 goals scored is a huge difference.
That's why it is so boring to watch our games.
with moyes at least it was entertaining in a sense that we're watching a car crash or something.
watching us right now is pure torture at least 4 out of 5 times.
We don't have the best defence in the league what so ever. We set up our team so definsevely it compensates for a terrible defence with a good goalkeeper.
Buying more attacking players will solve nothing. We must sort out the issues at the back first. Unless of course you get those attacking players to play defensive and back we are to the LVG way of football.
Is it legal to quote Oasis here?!
Was hoping you'd say, "And after all"
And then I come in with, "We've won f*ck alllllllllll"
Everyone would laugh
I'd receive the freedom of Manchester and a bucket of chicken
But, you didn't
This threads gone a bit supernova !
One of those, you have to be here now moments.
You just gotta roll with it
Positives from LVG reign:
Acquisition (and development) of Martial, a potential world class talent agreed
Bringing some excellent looking young players into the first team, especially Rashford, Fosu Monster and CBJ. You may say this was "luck due to injuries" but he deliberately thinned the squad out which created these opportunities (obviously there was a downside to this as well) partly agreed. Everyone knew he didn't understand this league and didn't recruit enough players. He was lukcy we had enough telented, not Vangled youngsters.
Development of Smalling into a first class centre back not sure
Acquisition of Blind and conversion into a first class centre back very good CB, miles behind Vida, Rio etc.
Emergence of Shaw before his injury not sure you can attribute to Van Gaal
Actually dragging *some* half decent performances from previously written off Fellaini and Young (now re-written off !) Felatio no, Young aye. Especially last season.
Under 21's winning their Championship which suggests some good foundations being built at the club you mean- by the fact LVG hadn't done anything with them they managed to win, agreed. The further away he stays the better.
FA Cup run this yearlucky as feck, WHU were the first proper opposition and we need performance of the season to beat them. Let's not forget how fecking crap we were in previous runs.
Reducing the wage bill and offloading a lot of deadwood he let too many players go without replacing them
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I hope it is mate, but it looks like being one long story. And not even a good story, like Bravo 2 Zero by Andy McNab.
The fate of LVG and Giggs seems horribly intertwined.
Completely agree with the most part. However I'd say we should be more generous with LVG regarding Fellaini - he was useless under Moyes and has been mildly less useless under Van Gaal.
I'd also suggest Smalling is still short of being world-class, and Blind is nowhere near top-level.
They might have someone else in mind, as long as it isn't Giggs or Pulis or Allardyce or some random ex-United player.
yeah...it wasn't long ago, when Stoke were doing quite well, that people were thinking Hughes was a good option....good grief....
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