What utter nonsense! Some of the best football we played in the last decade was when we had Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney inter changing positions and dragging defenders all over the place. When Scholes drove in from deep to finish off chances as the opponents were not able to track his run. You think the players we had then or the manager at the helm "didn't think enough about their roles on the pitch". This sort of crap pisses people off more. To make LVG look good, people start rewriting how the PL has developed for a long time now. LVG has not brought anything in our midst apart from mind-numbing football which ends up as a failure too.
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What utter nonsense! Some of the best football we played in the last decade was when we had Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney inter changing positions and dragging defenders all over the place. When Scholes drove in from deep to finish off chances as the opponents were not able to track his run. You think the players we had then or the manager at the helm "didn't think enough about their roles on the pitch". This sort of crap pisses people off more. To make LVG look good, people start rewriting how the PL has developed for a long time now. LVG has not brought anything in our midst apart from mind-numbing football which ends up as a failure too.
The lack of self awareness is amazing. Yes, everybody did know we needed creative players, unfortunately the one man that could do something about it sold the only ones we had.Yup, only scored 24 more and conceded 6 less, Spurs. There is no gap at all; only the points.
Did 'everybody' know that we are only a senior creative player away from winning the title?
Basically, he sees nothing wrong in our playing style and believes that we are a Robben away from winning the league. Great!
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...n-utd-close-to-tottenham-despite-12-point-gap
Is this where United are now? not far of Spurs PATHETIC United should be the team the other are chasing not aiming to be not far of Spurs, quicker LVG is gone the better.
Is this where United are now? not far of Spurs PATHETIC United should be the team the other are chasing not aiming to be not far of Spurs, quicker LVG is gone the better.
Creativity equals giving the ball away when trying to make something happen. That's no good when you want 75% possession with 1 shot on goal in 90 minutes of football. No wonder he had to get rid.
For two games. You're over selling Van Gaal's attacking instinct at the time. We were every bit as dreadful in those first few games as we are now.
The utterly preposterous figure of Van Gaal spouting yet more ludicrous drivel. The Spurs game is perhaps the most damning example of his managerial ineptitude yet; for most of the second half he had all four of our attacking players in their wrong positions. He's ridiculous.
Wonder what Mata thinks of that? oh that's right Mata is a winger
I actually agree with @sunama tbh
After we had all our new signings finally show up against QPR, we put in a pretty good attacking display vs them(yes I know QPR are awful, but still). I thought we'd score the most goals in the league for sure. Then we followed that up vs Leicester and were tremendous for 60 minutes and it all fell apart and it changed LVG entirely. He turned defensive after that.
After we had all our new signings finally show up against QPR, we put in a pretty good attacking display vs them(yes I know QPR are awful, but still). I thought we'd score the most goals in the league for sure. Then we followed that up vs Leicester and were tremendous for 60 minutes and it all fell apart and it changed LVG entirely. He turned defensive after that.
Yup, only scored 24 more and conceded 6 less, Spurs. There is no gap at all; only the points.
Did 'everybody' know that we are only a senior creative player away from winning the title?
Basically, he sees nothing wrong in our playing style and believes that we are a Robben away from winning the league. Great!
Do you still listen to him?
A mate stumbled upon this from 2002 while LVG was at Barca. Some interesting parallels:
Wow! That could be us.
You have to admire him. He may be shit, but coming out with quotes like these it seems obvious that he takes pride in being shit, and is doing his very best to be the absolute shittest shit there's even been.
LVG: "Yes, to everyone is it obvious that we shall need a senior creative player to be good as the mighty Spurs."
Everyone else: "But why didn't you sign a senior creative player last summer, or in January when you were just two points behind Spurs?"
LVG:
LVG: "Yes, to everyone is it obvious that we shall need a senior creative player to be good as the mighty Spurs."
Everyone else: "But why didn't you sign a senior creative player last summer, or in January when you were just two points behind Spurs?"
LVG:
I can't bear it any more, he may be a nice bloke, but he has sucked the enjoyment out of any football for me. Daily, he is hammering another nail into United, while making out he is some kind of football Messiah. Barcelona and Bayern had a lot more sense than us. Get him out before he ruins the young players breaking through now.
We should have got rid of him a long time ago.
We should have got rid of him a long time ago.
When Moyes finally got sacked he acted like it was a shock but I reckon that was just an act to save face. He knew he was in serious trouble, he knew he'd failed big time. He'd aged about 10 years in his 10 months in charge.
I think when Van Gaal gets the boot he genuinely will be shocked, that's how arrogant and delusional he is. I think he honestly believes he's done a good job and that he deserves another year.
His confidence in the face of all evidence is almost admirable.
I think when Van Gaal gets the boot he genuinely will be shocked, that's how arrogant and delusional he is. I think he honestly believes he's done a good job and that he deserves another year.
His confidence in the face of all evidence is almost admirable.
I don't understand why he wants a creative player, if then on his rigid system he wouldn't have any option of doing anything. And he would nullify his natural instincts to favour his philosophy. Every creative player needs permanent movement around to have options to choose, to be unpredictable. That's needed also to disorganize defences, and create spaces when we attack from static play. But if he sets the team and instructions like he's been doing most of the time, a creative player by himself can't do anything unless he's Pele or Maradona, and even them would find difficulties.
His man-marking system provokes that the team is more worried about the opposition than the fact of damaging them. He made Martial (our main weapon) follow random fullbacks every weekend by the whole field, even getting into our own box. Any 'senior creative player' is told to do this in the biggest teams, and has such a poor structure around to be creative.
You see also the players scared to take risks or losing the ball, and being benched like Herrera when he plays a bit more adventurous game. He picks disciplined players like Lingard to start every weekend, but talented players like Pereira or Januzaj are totally ignored. I can understand his preference for Lingard as he's more mature, but the difference on opportunities is not logic when you are claiming that you need creativity. They can be better or worse, but the pure talent is there.
He's been favouring discipline and a restrictive game with all his decisions, from every angle, and he goes now out there with a pair of balls, saying all he needed is a creative player. Sack this tosser now please, I can't stand him anymore.
His man-marking system provokes that the team is more worried about the opposition than the fact of damaging them. He made Martial (our main weapon) follow random fullbacks every weekend by the whole field, even getting into our own box. Any 'senior creative player' is told to do this in the biggest teams, and has such a poor structure around to be creative.
You see also the players scared to take risks or losing the ball, and being benched like Herrera when he plays a bit more adventurous game. He picks disciplined players like Lingard to start every weekend, but talented players like Pereira or Januzaj are totally ignored. I can understand his preference for Lingard as he's more mature, but the difference on opportunities is not logic when you are claiming that you need creativity. They can be better or worse, but the pure talent is there.
He's been favouring discipline and a restrictive game with all his decisions, from every angle, and he goes now out there with a pair of balls, saying all he needed is a creative player. Sack this tosser now please, I can't stand him anymore.
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I'm not so sure... The Spain game aside Holland were playing the same way we play now in the World Cup... Side to side and long ball... Vlaar occasionally running into space like Smalling does now.
I put that down to him having a weaker team and playing it safe, but then seemingly he also became very unpopular at Barca and Bayern for his style of football.
We were also dreadful and fairly negative in our first competitive game under LVG against Swansea.
LvG could buy Ronaldo, find out that he has potential as a goalkeeper and actually play him as one.
It's sad because it's true
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FFS, don't post LvG delusion like that anymore
Just when I think I've reached my "feck off LvG" limit, I go and read shit like that and he just upsets me more."we should aspire to be more like Spurs"
Spot on
Ah feck off I thought he'd managed not to say anything stupid this week and then that comes out. He's incredibly deluded.
I've said it a million times but when he says creative player he means someone who can completely carry the attack to make up for his borish and cautious philosophy.
His system is completely reliant on a top shelf quality attacker and in his head it's not his fault because he's put the rest of the parts together already.
I've said it a million times but when he says creative player he means someone who can completely carry the attack to make up for his borish and cautious philosophy.
His system is completely reliant on a top shelf quality attacker and in his head it's not his fault because he's put the rest of the parts together already.
That's pure nonsense, the man is the single only reason why Barcelona are good.
M.E.N have posted an article that Jose is not in talks with PSG.
If we give him money to spend on creative players it should be considered gross negligence and a sackable offence for whoever signed off on it.
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We had Di Maria. A Galactico creative player. LVG could not manage him and then allowed him to leave.
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Yes it does. The league table does not lie.
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A top quality attacking player will not join us, while LVG is here, as he makes every attacker look terrible.
Di Maria's value when from £59M to £45M, in less than 10 months.
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To clarify, the 1-0 win at OT, was an own goal.
The other fixture was 3-0.
No MUFC player was able to score a goal against Spurs this season.
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We have creative players, but LVG does not want them to create. He wants them to defend, so we can get a 1-0 score.
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We had Di Maria, LVG let him leave. And now no top quality attackers wants to join, even when offered record fees/wages.
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Go on Louis, follow what Delia has done and announce that you're leaving at the end of the season.
@sunama I can't wait for LvG's reply.
I love his comments. If we were not worse than Tottehnam, we'd be at least equal to them.
Worst quotes since he's been here those Spurs one's
I do wonder what senior creative player Spurs have is though... oh and why LVG didn't address that in the summer/January
I do wonder what senior creative player Spurs have is though... oh and why LVG didn't address that in the summer/January
Because he always goes for impossible targets in that position, yet the ones Spurs have were gettable. They don't look hard enough. If they can't get option one then it's tough. Stop looking.
He is deluded. Everyone knows this.
I'm hoping that this 'creative player' thing isn't just another excuse for under-performance; an excuse that he could use to sway Ed into letting him stay as manager.
Stupid statement from LVG, but this is even worse IMO, can't believe I'm following this guy:
Spurs.... Who were miles behind 3 years ago.
Farcical
Farcical
LvG should be praised for selling him and Fergie should be quizzed over why the feck he signed him in the first place...
Absolute gombeen of a player
Absolute gombeen of a player
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