That is dire. Can you put it in table form and show the defensive side with goals conceded?
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Far too much work, dude. Took me ages to do that.
We had 60 by February 10th in 2006/07
He's just attention seeking, don't give him any, Lvg world class!!!
He was, back when no-one had a mobile phone!!
We will until he is sacked at Christmas.
It doesn't matter as City are winning.
And when we had the classic dial up internet connection.
LVG almost certainly out at the end of the season. To do otherwise would be insanity, so not worried about him going. All we have to worry about now is who takes over and it better not be a rookie
Won't see him on MUTV for awhile now
Don't think Danny is short of work. At least he has said what most people think, rather than being too scared to say it.
I was at the game today thru the grace of one of these board's mods and the difference between now and then is shocking. We are subbing with 50 seconds to milk the clock and run out the game at home against Villa.
I defy anyone with a season pass to tell me they want another season of this.
How boring and cowardly....
I defy anyone with a season pass to tell me they want another season of this.
How boring and cowardly...
.That is dreadful. Just sums our season right up.
Does anyone honestly believe we can score more than 10 more goals in remaining games I don't, reckon we'll get 6 more. Imagine finishing the season out of top 4 with less than 50 goals from 38 games. It's beyond embarrassing for a club of our tradition and money spent. It's like Louis has sterilized the club with his awful philosophy.
I for one and I'm sure there's loads others would not be happy him sitting there if his successor had been announced, I keep seeing this argument that it's pointless sacking him now, it's not, because the sooner he's away from our players with his bs philosophy the better and I'd imagine 99% of the players would get a lift from it and would play with more freedom having the weight off them.
During the Chelsea v city game they were talking about Conte being involved already saying the longer he's got to assess their squad the better, this is true for us but you can't honestly assess them as they are under LVB so the sooner he's gone the better plus we as fans would at least know he's not staying and renew our memberships and season tickets.
I didn't say I was fully happy with the results. We also need to admit we're mortal and can't expect the same thing as when ferguson was in charge. That man was the equivalent of Messi.
This goals thing is unbelievable. I adore seeing one of our kids doing so well as Rashford is at the moment, but how has it happened that an 18 year old who hadn't played a first team game before 25th February has become such a vital player for us?
His goals have been the difference in all but one of the games he's scored in (2 v Midgetland, 2 v Arsenal, 1 v City, 1 v West Ham, 1 v Villa) and there is no way LVG could have predicted him to do as well as he has done. Begs the question why he flogged so many attacking options last summer without replacing them.
His goals have been the difference in all but one of the games he's scored in (2 v Midgetland, 2 v Arsenal, 1 v City, 1 v West Ham, 1 v Villa) and there is no way LVG could have predicted him to do as well as he has done. Begs the question why he flogged so many attacking options last summer without replacing them.
I shudder at the thought of LVG being the manager next season. In all my years of watching United, I don't think I've seen a worse United team going forward and so sterile in attack. It's terrible.
We all know it's been a real slog of a season, and most of us expect that it's long been decided VG will go at the end of the season.
The cup is a real incentive to keep going, as is watching the younger lads develop.
Winning a cup, seeing Rashford, Martial, FM and even Lingard (23, but I count a young lad) keep performing well, is a lot better than how we feared it'd go.
Roll on Wembley!
The cup is a real incentive to keep going, as is watching the younger lads develop.
Winning a cup, seeing Rashford, Martial, FM and even Lingard (23, but I count a young lad) keep performing well, is a lot better than how we feared it'd go.
Roll on Wembley!
This. And they better not let us down here. All we've got left of the season to look forward to.
Moyes team may have been better attacking, but you only have to remember how many games we lost at home, how many times you heard it was the "first win at OLD in 20/30 years" and remember that we were the defending champions.
At least VG largely has had us tougher to beat, especially at home, and done pretty well in a lot of the big games. When did Fergie last beat Liverpool 4 times in a row for instance?
Losing at Wembley to fecking Everton (on my birthday as well) will just be the cherry on this incredibly shitty cake of a season.
The team must surely be like 'feck what the old fossil has said about tactics lets beat these feckers for the fans and then go and win it' - I had that impression against West Ham, today I had the complete opposite.
I agree with that except Lingard who I do not rate at all, his only instruction from LvG seems to be to wave his arms around occasionally.
Hope we win the cup, some enjoyment out of the season and then when the season's over he'll be gone.
Last time I checked, we've accumulated less points under LVG this season than the season under Moyes with the same amount of games. LVG's record against Pool is good. I'll give him that.
That said, we failed to qualify from the group stages of the CL and Moyes did that rather comfortably.
They're both as bad as each other. We've scored 40 league goals in 33 games. That is abject.
Meltdown won't be the word mate. They'll have to shut the forum down. In years to come people will talk of Red Café in reverential terms, like Kabul in the 1960s, remembering the beauty and wisdom which poured fourth before the appointment of Giggs
Given that he's had more time and £150 million more to spend, more was rightly expected.
He's been dug out time and again by Martial and Rashford - the latter being down to a very big slice of "luck" (although it's not nice to say, obviously) in terms of Keane picking up an injury.
LVG deserves some credit for giving young players a chance. Sadly, it's far outweighed, in my opinion, by the rest of it. He's been a disaster and put us back a couple of years at least.
I'm more of a patient type and like to give people time and benefit of the doubt, but today just didn't sit well with me at all. Every team and their dog is putting Villa to the sword and we score 1 and hold on towards the end.
There's no way he's here next season, not with displays like this IMO.
There's no way he's here next season, not with displays like this IMO.
What happens to you if he is sent packing? A change of username or keep it as a reminder of how low we (hopefully) had sunk?
A short sighted user name I'm afraid. The lad is destined to forever be lumbered with that millstone round his neck
I wouldn't mind if he were sacked tomorrow personally, but the right time to do it has clearly come and gone. If the board were either unable or unwilling to dig up an interim months ago, they obviously won't do it now – so clamouring for this strikes me as pretty pointless.
What's important now is getting it right for next season. This one's a write-off barring a small miracle. We rely entirely on other teams to do the job for us, and I don't think an interim would be a significantly better option than LVG at this stage. He hasn't lost the players, apparently.
As for the part in bold, I agree. It's one of the things which make me skeptical about the "done deal" rumours about Mourinho. The mood among the fans is horrible at the moment, and I personally know several people who won't renew their season tickets as things stand - it's not empty threats either. If I were Woody and had a deal with Mourinho, I'd announce it.
You can't go off points, as you get quirks from year to year that could mean we come 5th but with less points than Moyes.
Going off finishing position has got to be a better guide. 7th! with the defending champions.
You've claimed that LVG has made us 'tougher to beat' yet compared to this stage under Moyes we've lost just one less league game, while we've scored 16, SIXTEEN, less goals, and I don't think we need to remind ourselves how utterly shite our attack was that season. Comparing league point totals within the space of a couple of seasons is more than fair, wild fluctuations are not really in play here. If we finish on a lower total than 13/14 then we can say with certainty that it was a worse season, not that it means much when comparing them both to Fergie's last season. And this is in a season where Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Liverpool have all shat the proverbial bed and where Leicester and Spurs are the only ones fighting out a title race. Not to mention that this is his second season, where he has been able to totally reshape the squad, spent over 250m and set in his tactics and much maligned 'philosophy'. Add this with our hilarious failures in Europe and I think it's quite safe to say that Van Gaal has outshitted even Moyes' calamitous season. They've both been utter failures in their own special ways but a few wins against a shit midtable Liverpool side is hardly something worth trumpeting over aside from usual fan trash-talking.
but you can go on form and we've been shit. 250m and he still can't figure out his best team.
Not many know when it's time to go and LVG clearly isn't one of them. He reminds me now of an ageing, punch drunk fighter - in his head he's still a champ but the game has passed him by.
This is the payback for hiring Moyes. That man almost single handedly burnt the club down and we panicked into hiring Louis as some sort of steadying influence. Both decisions were so conservative and it's no coincidence that on the pitch we are conservative too. We've become the anti United - everything we're not supposed to be.
This is the payback for hiring Moyes. That man almost single handedly burnt the club down and we panicked into hiring Louis as some sort of steadying influence. Both decisions were so conservative and it's no coincidence that on the pitch we are conservative too. We've become the anti United - everything we're not supposed to be.
I don't get why people tally up figures like this, ignoring the players who he's then sold out of that figure - Di Maria for example.
I guess it's media sensationalism and people just follow it.
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