Yep. Or you could watch a better league like La Liga to get your football fix. There's been countless times this season where I've watched Real or Barca because I feel short changed by the 'performance' we've given.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Yep. Or you could watch a better league like La Liga to get your football fix. There's been countless times this season where I've watched Real or Barca because I feel short changed by the 'performance' we've given.
Glazers !!! this is feck allto do with them , they have given Moyes and LVG the money to buy , they have just wasted most of it , blaming them is just wrong.
Exactly. He's already made watching United an arduous chore but there's still plenty of good footie to be watched.
He'll be gone in the summer. He's not going to be sacked now. Don't see why everyone is still getting riled up about it. He's not going anywhere yet
So why do we have to wait until the end of the season to give him the boot? Would being managerless for 5 games be worse than this? Let the team play on instinct, and not Vangleball.
If he is still here next season i won't renew my membership
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He's probably got a clause, like Moyes, that means we can sever his contract at a reduced rate if he doesn't qualify for the CL. I imagine we will wait for that to be mathematically certain first.
Really?
Without wishing to derail the thread, I would say the current mess is largely due to the Glazers, specifically their failure or refusal to do the following:
1. Invest in the squad when United were dominant (between 2009 and 2011) and so ensure the next manager started with a strong squad.
2. Ensure Ferguson gave plenty of notice when he intended to retire (I know he has cited his wife's mother's passing as the reason for his retirement, but come on, how many other big companies would allow someone to leave with little or no notice? My partner's dad is the boss of a major company and he had to give 12 months' notice when he announced he was stepping down. TWELVE MONTHS).
3. Ensure David Gill stayed on to oversee the transition to a new manager.
4. Find a CEO with knowledge of the football industry, rather than a corporate stooge.
5. Dismiss said CEO when it became clear he was out of his depth.
6. Dismiss both Moyes and LVG when it became clear they were ballsing everything up.
I agree that we have spent a fortune over the last two years, but that should have been happening years ago, and the owners' catastrophic lack of football understanding is demonstrated by the fact that the two most important positions in our club are now held by men who are patently not up to it.
Yes, because it's totally unrealistic to want one of the best managers to stay. If you look at the voting there are some of us out there. I'm just a loud person, that's it.
So you think that 1-0 score lines, 5th place, aiming for the 4th place trophy in both seasons of his tenure, amongst a whole bunch of other things, is the mark of a great manager?
I'd love to hear your reply to this.
People are not convinced he'll be sacked after the season, it's not more complicated than that. Nobody would've had a problem with him sitting there with his notepad if his successor had been announced.
I think most realize that sacking him now, just for the sake it, would be pretty pointless. He's proven himself capable of presiding over the odd win here and there. With some luck we could even stumble in to a 4th place finish. But, again, the reason people are moaning and wailing is that they're worried about him being here next season. Which is understandable. I'm not 100% convinced he'll be replaced either.
I think most realize that sacking him now, just for the sake it, would be pretty pointless. He's proven himself capable of presiding over the odd win here and there. With some luck we could even stumble in to a 4th place finish. But, again, the reason people are moaning and wailing is that they're worried about him being here next season. Which is understandable. I'm not 100% convinced he'll be replaced either.
Her wife's sister actually, that's all.
Apologies, my mistake, cheers for pointing that out.
I too blame the Glazer's for not forcing Sir Alex Ferguson to stay at the club against his wishes after the death of a member of his family. How many other humans in the world would have forced someone to work in an insanely high pressure job against their wishes after giving two decades to the club!
just imagine this place if Giggs is announced as the new manager.
I would rather not. It will give other clubs a laugh if nothing else.
we are a very poorly managed club. I mean at board level. That all the chaos of the last 3 years has happened is ridiculous.
Yeah it'll rightly go into fecking meltdown.
He needs to retire after this season.. He is killing my passion for the game..
Should we shut down the forum til summer then?
I've been telling them for ages
They won't listen
We'd hopefully get behind a club legend who is appointed as a manager and give him a chance before chastisin....
No, we'd have a lot of nutjobs going mental
We've scored 25 goals in our last 24 PL games. To put that into context, in the same period:
Villa: 15
Norwich: 21
Newcastle: 23
Palace: 23
Swansea: 24
WBA: 24
Manchester United: 25
Watford: 26
Bournemouth: 29
Stoke: 29
Soton: 30
Sunderland: 31
WHU: 32
City: 34
Chelsea: 35
Leicester: 38
Arsenal: 39
Liverpool: 42
Everton: 42
Spurs: 49
The teams behind us are fighting to stay up (or in Villa's case, gone down). For 4/5's of the season, we've shown relegation standard form.
Villa: 15
Norwich: 21
Newcastle: 23
Palace: 23
Swansea: 24
WBA: 24
Manchester United: 25
Watford: 26
Bournemouth: 29
Stoke: 29
Soton: 30
Sunderland: 31
WHU: 32
City: 34
Chelsea: 35
Leicester: 38
Arsenal: 39
Liverpool: 42
Everton: 42
Spurs: 49
The teams behind us are fighting to stay up (or in Villa's case, gone down). For 4/5's of the season, we've shown relegation standard form.
I believe it shall be worse next season if he is still here, because the likes of Chelsea, City and even Arsenal will most likely improve and leave us further behind.
Nah let's just give RandomFlagg has own forum so he can share his Oracle-like predictions.
Got the result which was important but it was so so dull and unconvincing.
Never seen a more soulless united side in my entire life. We're like zombies now, and not the menacing kind, we're the kind that just sits there waiting for decay to take its course.
United games used to be the highlight of the week for me, now it's just a chore.
United games used to be the highlight of the week for me, now it's just a chore.
There is other topics in the forum last time I checked
But hundreds of "is he gone yet" "why isn't he gone yet" after every game, win lose or draw is really fecking pointless
People are frustrated, it's understandable.
19 more votes as of writing and "sack him now" will have 1000 votes.
Surely some of the people who have been silly and voted for anything else can change your vote now?
Surely some of the people who have been silly and voted for anything else can change your vote now?
45 mins away from him losing any chance of keeping his job imo
Precisely. I find the over-the-top hysteria of some posters mildly annoying, as per usual. But far less so than the over-the-top "amusement" some express at others discussing what should happen to LVG, and which course the club should take. What is the purpose of this place?
Posting match results? Saying "let's just wait and see" in fifty different languages?
The City-Chelsea game, I suppose?
Yeah
I'd be surprised if we sacked him before the conclusion of our FA Cup run, even if CL becomes mathematically impossible.
He can kiss top 4 goodbye.
Yeah I agree. But now I think he will 100% go at the end of the season. He had to get top 4 to have any chance of staying
It's completely true. Our upper management structure lags behind today's top teams. Sir Alex provided so much - we failed to recognize see that simply replacing him with just a manager would never be enough.
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