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Quite. And I'm not sure Van Gaal's latest mutterings are really in keeping with the "biggest/bestest club ever" narrative Woodward and co sell the sponsors, and upon which our revenues rely.
The fact that he mutters this and is heavily supported makes me think that Woodward doesn't mind and says these things to pacify the fans. Fact is as long as the club gets sponsorships and makes those dollars, it's not a concern. Heck did Woodward even get grilled by investors on United's lack of Champions League football and what impact it will have? I think not. We are a marketing machine. nothing more. (watch Jose Mourinho get hired and have a £150 mill transfer Kitty :rolleyes:)
 
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No idea what he's trying to say there, but I'm guessing he's trying to play down exceptions again, which is something he has been doing for a while now. Then we win a game or two and he talks about winning the league. Makes it up as he goes along.
He does realise that the reason the expectations have dropped is down to his mismanagement?
 
Yea like the wars that cost trillions, check a financial expert how much sanders policy's would cost, it actually is not that expensive. This idea it's impossible, when taxes in the first place are not even used to the Americans benifit, but on wars that are not even needed to be invaded. Imagine that, a government using taxes to pay for stuff people need

mate, i am not going to argue with you football forum. I don't even feel the need to convince you to anything. Sorry, i grew up ;)
 
He does realise that the reason the expectations have dropped is down to his mismanagement?

I'm not sure, his ego could be so big that he thinks he's blameless and it's the players not being good enough. Or he knows and he's playing down to keep his job.
 
I think we should do everything we can to get Mauricio Pochettino. I think he would be a better fit than Jose Mourinho for us, our academy. I am not going to backtrack now. I never liked Mourinho before and still have doubts about him. Fans are changing their opinion of him now we are desperate but I think it would be another disaster appointment. If he gets the job I hope I am wrong of course.
 
I think we should do everything we can to get Mauricio Pochettino. I think he would be a better fit than Jose Mourinho for us, our academy. I am not going to backtrack now. I never liked Mourinho before and still have doubts about him. Fans are changing their opinion of him now we are desperate but I think it would be another disaster appointment. If he gets the job I hope I am wrong of course.
If we have exceptional talents, Jose will play them. Balotelli got airtime, Santon was promoted by Jose, Verane was used quite a lot as was Morata. Players like Januzaj will probably play more than under Van Gaal as he don't seem to rate him.
 
The same sanders who actually wants to tax the rich, never taken a cent from wall street, and his net worth 500K, and wants to give single health care and free college. Sounds like a pip dream, same sanders that stood up for transgender rights in the 80's, Americans not totally fecked with sanders. He is a rare breed in politics that we may not see in a long time. I would hedge my bets with sanders who is not in bed with wall street
The same Sanders whose economic plans rely on 5% annual GDP growth. If you believe that's even remotely feasible I have some oceanfront property in Iowa to sell you.

Back on topic though, LVG's comments are a disgrace and I'm interested in seeing how his apologists spin them this time around.
 
The same Sanders whose economic plans rely on 5% annual GDP growth. If you believe that's even remotely feasible I have some oceanfront property in Iowa to sell you.

Back on topic though, LVG's comments are a disgrace and I'm interested in seeing how his apologists spin them this time around.

You can't deny the fact that the health care and how the 1% are not paying a dime in taxes. Currently America are paying out of both accounts

But back to VG he is, and it's getting to the point where it's blanking him out and getting through the season and hopefully the board are not idiots, I won't hold my breath. Because he is getting embarrassed by teams with less of a budget, he's just a doctor that is 10 years out of date. If Moyes said these things, the entire arsenal of weapons would be thrown at him
 
My father in law just told me that he read in the paper this morning (probably the mirror) that an aide close to LVG has said that the United board has assured Van Gaal that he will be manager next season.
 
My father in law just told me that he read in the paper this morning (probably the mirror) that an aide close to LVG has said that the United board has assured Van Gaal that he will be manager next season.

Who will be manager the aide or Van Gaal, would the aide happened to be called Jose
 
He's far outdone Moyes. There's just an ott hatred for Moyes and people are therefore unwilling to say this, partly because they also probably said that LVG would have us back at the top again.
id be inclined to agree. Moyes put his foot in his mouth, LVG means what he is saying
 
I dislike LvG a lot more than I dislike Moyes, and Moyes being sacked on my birthday was the best present I've ever had.

The sooner this absolute fraud is gone the better.
 
I agree

Moyes > LvG for me.

At least Moyes did give it a go and showed a smidge of passion here and there.

Both have been awful, mind
 
I agree

Moyes > LvG for me.

At least Moyes did give it a go and showed a smidge of passion here and there.

Both have been awful, mind

Moyes wasn't financially backed like LVG either.

Moyes was a disaster, but I honestly don't think we'd be doing any worse with him in charge.
 
They're both in the same boat imo, as they have both pretty much to varying degrees, lost the players. Moyes definitely lost the dressing room and LvG is not too far behind.
 
Moyes wasn't financially backed like LVG either.

Moyes was a disaster, but I honestly don't think we'd be doing any worse with him in charge.

He was. He just couldn't make up his mind who to sign.
 
There's no dick measuring contest between Moyes and LVG as far as I'm concerned. LVG's failure doesn't vindicate Moyes in the slightest, nor vice versa.

Both have been massive disappointments.
 
But surely anyone can realise that our commercial success is linked to results on the pitch? We cant live off past glories forever.
 
I think we should do everything we can to get Mauricio Pochettino. I think he would be a better fit than Jose Mourinho for us, our academy. I am not going to backtrack now. I never liked Mourinho before and still have doubts about him. Fans are changing their opinion of him now we are desperate but I think it would be another disaster appointment. If he gets the job I hope I am wrong of course.
We arent getting Pochettino. This is like when people convinced themselves that 'if we threw everything at Guardiola and made him an offer he couldnt refuse' then we could land him. Life doesnt work that way. He'll have a chance to manage an exciting young group of talents at Spurs next season, most likely in the UCL too. If he does well there, a chance to coach either Barca or Real then beckons for him.

I've had many people claiming that they feel that Jose wont work out and that justification for why dont want him. Well, I feel that it can, and it is the one move that none of our rivals want us to make (no matter what silly excuses they give for them not wanting us to sign him).

He is a proven winner, whether people like him or not. For some of us, this isnt a sudden change due to recent poor results. I always thought that the Moyes experiment was a mistake, and Jose should have gotten the job instead. This comes 3 wasted years later, but hopefully its better late than never.
 
But surely anyone can realise that our commercial success is linked to results on the pitch? We cant live off past glories forever.
Have you not seen our latest sponsorship of... Tractors?... The commercial success is linked to how many people want United's brand linked to their stuff. I'm sure winning and celebrating winning means a lot more dollars in the kitty but I think you underestimate how much the brand strength is linked with how good we are on the pitch.

I personally think we've got a wave of maybe 10 years of rinsing the success of SAF and Co92 before it starts to dry up and all it takes is for one manager to come in and scum some silverware down the line and it all starts again. The commercial juggernaut is separate to on field and basically the reason why we can sit back and not care about sacking the gaff, or bringing in top talent and punting it out of the club after a season.

Double edged sword, catch22 and all that.
 
My father in law just told me that he read in the paper this morning (probably the mirror) that an aide close to LVG has said that the United board has assured Van Gaal that he will be manager next season.

I read this yesterday in application news feed on iPhone too, cannot remember the source. Apparently he has been reassured that the job is his regardless of results and he will be given money to rebuild. Are we the worst run club in the world, if this is true?
 
I doubt that will happen though. Under normal circumstances, once the manager loses his players, there is no staying. The club will be fighting relegation if it tries to force any manager on the players.
At the same time, if results don't come, then the fans will be all over, staging walkouts, flying banners and booing. The club can ignore them for some time, but wont be able to hold on for a full season.
 
Moyes went on numerous Toni Kroos scouting trips and was still sacked. Wouldn't put any credence into that story.
Let's hope it's rubbish. The concerning thing is, most now realise our board are they inept, we could well end up with LVG of Giggs in charge next season. Very worrying times.
 
I read this yesterday in application news feed on iPhone too, cannot remember the source. Apparently he has been reassured that the job is his regardless of results and he will be given money to rebuild. Are we the worst run club in the world, if this is true?

Everybody knows that's a fact Sarni. Even Newcastle know to sack a shit manager.
 
Everybody knows that's a fact Sarni. Even Newcastle know to sack a shit manager.
We hired a manager, allowed him to spend £200m to build a time and after he has failed to build a decent team, we will give him additional £150m to build a new team. Basically let him build teams over and over again so maybe one of these teams will be good enough to compete for top 4.
 
I would just love to hear the planning and process that goes into him staying for another year. Because there must be some logic there, in making that decision; but it's really hard to make out. I just can't understand it, just can't.
 
LvG Planning Busy Summer After United Assure Him Job Is Safe Regardless of Results http://www.90min.com/posts/3017506-...sults?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share via @90min_Football

I refuse to believe that any manager's job is safe, regardless of results.
If Guardiloa took MCFC to 6th place in his 2nd season, he'll fired so quickly, he won't realise what just happened.
Nobody, is unsackable.

And if he is unsackable, the Glazers will most likely sack Woodward and ask the new guy to sack LVG.
Too much money is riding on this.
 
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