LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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There's no point in debating if you don't actually read what I'm saying, but rather just make assumptions on what I my opinion is. Maybe read my last post too, and then you'll see that none of your assumptions are even close to the truth and that I am very familiar with the law of averages.
who is in change of the promotions. Some quirky ones through.....
nutters.....WUMs...trolls....
nutters.....WUMs...trolls....
Fair enough if you have another opinion. I made a post meant to people who believe that we have now "turned another corner". You replied and objected to my post so I assumed that's your opinion. Nothing personal in my post, and I really wish I'm wrong. I have nothing against LVG, and the moment I believe he achieved something significant, or feel things started to change I won't hesitate to back him again. It's just that at the moment, I just don't see, and all I see is us wasting more time on a hopeless case which will mean us missing again on CL football for another season, which will further damage our club, and accelerate the slide we're on since Fergie retired.
Santiago is just playing to the gallery now to keep up his tag as such a poor poster.
I cant believe anyone can believe half the things he types.
Even Van Gaal himself wouldnt stoop that low.
I cant believe anyone can believe half the things he types.
Even Van Gaal himself wouldnt stoop that low.
Thanks, I think the points you mention here are definitely valid ones. At this moment, arguments can be brought to the table for both keeping and sacking LVG. As long as we all stick to facts, both opinions are very respectable and sometimes you then agree to disagree.
Cheers.Thanks, I think the points you mention here are definitely valid ones. At this moment, arguments can be brought to the table for both keeping and sacking LVG. As long as we all stick to facts, both opinions are very respectable and sometimes you then agree to disagree.
We have superior players to Watford and were playing at home. If they perform at a level above us then we are poor simple as. Watford are not a strong side, they have lost 12 games. If both teams played to full potential we would beat them comfortably at Old Trafford. There seems to be a trend that everyone becomes world beaters when playing Man Utd. And the weather is a pitiful excuse.
Teams are in the Europa because they were relegated from the premier competition. I.e. they couldn't cut it at the top level so yes I am dissing it
After Leicester's win, if we won all 10 of our games remaining games it most likely still wouldn't be enough to win the league. That is how bad LVG has been.
And yet (allegedly) the club are going to keep him on next season and then follow through with appointing Giggs as his successor.
It will be a sad day to see Giggs sacked by Manchester United, but it's the sad reality if he does get appointed during his rookie years.
LVG has been a disaster and should have been kicked out months ago.
Louis van Gaal has discussed his first-ever meetings with Manchester United, and the reasons why the club appointed him as manager.
Van Gaal was appoited boss in summer 2014 following the sacking of David Moyes, with United finishing seventh the season prior.
The Dutchman has come in for criticism during his tenure at Old Trafford, but secured a fourth-place finish last season, and remains in the hunt for Champions League qualification this campaign.
The main positive of Van Gaal’s tenure has been his faith in young players, with the Dutchman handing regular game time to Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, Marcus Rashford and numerous other academy graduates in an injury-hit season.
Van Gaal believes his past of developing young players in both Holland and Germany contributed towards United’s decision to appoint him.
“I had two maiden speeches with them, two conversations, first with Ed [Woodward] and later with the owners,” Van Gaal told the club’s website when asked about his appointment in 2014.
“They have said what the culture is of Manchester United and why they want me. One of the reasons was that [his youth policy]. I used a lot of players also on the tour in America and on the tour last year. You need also the luck that youngsters are performing at that level.
“It’s not always the case and, when you see how many players I give the chance to show themselves, at the end only two are three players are finishing as a player of Manchester United. But, when you have me as the manager, you have a lot of chances. Also, a lot of players, because of that, are coming next season to Manchester United because they see that [I give them a chance].”
Asked what the key ingredient is for young players to make the first team, Van Gaal added: “They have to be open for their manager, their staff and, of course, open also for all the players who can guide them. I think we have a very good staff so it’s very wise that they are open and doing the things we are asking. But it always starts with the player himself. It’s not the manager.
“I’ve said it today to a player again – it’s not me, I’m doing always what I think I have to do but you put yourself in my attention and then I shall give you always a chance. Then, you have to grab it. It’s like that. It starts with the player but the player has to be open for a lot of things – not only the tactical situation or technical situation but how he stands in human life, how he can put his career in that human life because that’s also important.”
The bit about why they hired him maybe suggests why the board are not so keen on Jose.
Van Gaal was appoited boss in summer 2014 following the sacking of David Moyes, with United finishing seventh the season prior.
The Dutchman has come in for criticism during his tenure at Old Trafford, but secured a fourth-place finish last season, and remains in the hunt for Champions League qualification this campaign.
The main positive of Van Gaal’s tenure has been his faith in young players, with the Dutchman handing regular game time to Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, Marcus Rashford and numerous other academy graduates in an injury-hit season.
Van Gaal believes his past of developing young players in both Holland and Germany contributed towards United’s decision to appoint him.
“I had two maiden speeches with them, two conversations, first with Ed [Woodward] and later with the owners,” Van Gaal told the club’s website when asked about his appointment in 2014.
“They have said what the culture is of Manchester United and why they want me. One of the reasons was that [his youth policy]. I used a lot of players also on the tour in America and on the tour last year. You need also the luck that youngsters are performing at that level.
“It’s not always the case and, when you see how many players I give the chance to show themselves, at the end only two are three players are finishing as a player of Manchester United. But, when you have me as the manager, you have a lot of chances. Also, a lot of players, because of that, are coming next season to Manchester United because they see that [I give them a chance].”
Asked what the key ingredient is for young players to make the first team, Van Gaal added: “They have to be open for their manager, their staff and, of course, open also for all the players who can guide them. I think we have a very good staff so it’s very wise that they are open and doing the things we are asking. But it always starts with the player himself. It’s not the manager.
“I’ve said it today to a player again – it’s not me, I’m doing always what I think I have to do but you put yourself in my attention and then I shall give you always a chance. Then, you have to grab it. It’s like that. It starts with the player but the player has to be open for a lot of things – not only the tactical situation or technical situation but how he stands in human life, how he can put his career in that human life because that’s also important.”
The bit about why they hired him maybe suggests why the board are not so keen on Jose.
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I predict that we will lose this evening and this thread will get close to 500 pages by tomorrow
Over 500 if you lose i reckon.
Was about to say that.
People who defend LVG zealously will always be fanatics. No reasoning with them. They will always give LVG credit for fortuitous situations he finds himself in. Telling the world that playing Rashford and the like during the recent upturn because of his so called small squad policy is patently superficial and self-serving. He simply had no choice but to play the kids. If he had the balls to play Rashford in the middle of that December winning streak then he'd have some balls. Don't feed the fans this clearly unadulterated bs.
Darren Fletcher:
"Young players just need a chance and belief," he said. "Louis van Gaal has a history of that and believes in young players everywhere he has been.
"When he first came into the club he wouldn't play people out of position.
"He said it didn't matter how old you were but if there was a young lad doing well in the reserves and he was a left back and the left back was injured then he would come in.
"He made it clear from day one that he believed in young players. That has happened now and has almost turned their season around."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...is-van-Gaal-given-credit-blooding-young-stars
"Young players just need a chance and belief," he said. "Louis van Gaal has a history of that and believes in young players everywhere he has been.
"When he first came into the club he wouldn't play people out of position.
"He said it didn't matter how old you were but if there was a young lad doing well in the reserves and he was a left back and the left back was injured then he would come in.
"He made it clear from day one that he believed in young players. That has happened now and has almost turned their season around."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...is-van-Gaal-given-credit-blooding-young-stars
He wouldn't play people out of position?
Uh... Rooney at cm, Valencia rb, Young rb, etc
Uh... Rooney at cm, Valencia rb, Young rb, etc
Blind at centre back...
The success of the kids is making me begin to think of changing my mind on him.
DiMaria upfront, Fellaini everywhere
Fellaini as striker!
Giggs as Assistant Manger of Manchester United.
Mata at right wing.
All this crap about LVG giving youth a chance, he played senior players out of position rather than playing youth, it's only when these players also got injured that he had to play youth out of desperation.
This is an interesting quote, no? You could be forgiven for taking that as an indication he's going nowhere.
Now, the rest of it - well: The thing is that "being in the running"...for 4th place...in his second season in charge of what is supposed to be the biggest club in the world...is seriously underwhelming. It's something you'd want to keep quiet about - because it's a bit of an embarrassment - not something you'd want to bring up as an argument.
He caught me hook line and sinker yesterday.... The fool I!
He thrives on attention. Just read what he says and have a slight chuckle and move on with the rest of your day.
He once sent me a reply with over 20 smilies. It was then that I realized that any more arguments with him just hooks you into silly arguments. He's a master in that.
When is this bloke going to feck off?
Another performance as flat as his stupid pointless face
Another performance as flat as his stupid pointless face
Firm advice, duly noted! Cheers
Putrid shite. Most predicted LVG would revert back to this though, and they weren't wrong. Can't wait to see the back of him.
Yeah it's his fault that Mata picked up two stupid yellows leaving us up against it for most of the game.
Anyone who thought that "he changed" or learned what the fans really like... Think again. The only reason he went counter attacking and the style he did was out of necessity because he didn't have faith in the players before to play the possession style. With a fully fit side, this right here is his ideal football. How we were in the first few months, grinding out results, 60-70% possession... boring as feck football basically.
People will talk about the sending off if we don't win but the fact is the play up until that point was back to the tumescent nonsense we've watched all season.
Rashford who was so good with taking his man the last few games is today standing and passing it backwards instead. Sums up Van Gaal's 2 seasons with us for me.
Same old shite served up. I don't understand if the players decide all of a sudden to become shite in alternate matches?
Back to the tumescent nonsense we go.
We will hopefully nick it but i still want him out.
We will hopefully nick it but i still want him out.
Its pulis, he turns all his games into this. Although I'm hardly surprised people will use it as a stick to beat LVG with.
Wow you guys!
We'd only had 20mins or so, in a game against a well known hard working scuffling team. We had 70mins to put it right!
But for you guys surprised we're now playing with ten...how can you expect any difference when the playmaker is the one who's gone off!
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