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Do you want LVG sacked?

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Tell you what, those hopeless romantics in our support were right all along.

We are different to other clubs.

I won't even call it as being 'run by morons' but we certainly are odd as feck with our decisions compared to other clubs in similar stature.

Your legendary manager retires? Hire some complete no mark to replace him.
Your manager admits he can't change it around and would rather step aside? Ignore it and keep ploughing on.

There might be method to the madness but it's still downright madness.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
Imagine openly admitting you couldn't do your job after also proving you so obviously can't. Then being allowed to carry on anyway.

Woodward obviously either thinks we can get Pep, or he is merely relying on blind faith.
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I don't think it's blind faith. I think Ed wants someone that isn't Giggs or Mourinho.
 
Adisa said:
I don't think it's blind faith. I think Ed wants someone that isn't Giggs or Mourinho.
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He's running out of time for luxuries. I don't think he grasps just how bad we are. We're at an all time low, and we need a fix asap. LVG isn't the man to set the ship straight, and the longer we wait the more we risk screwing up our season.
He's ignorant to how bad things really are, as he's not someone with a football background, I'm not sure he grasps just how hard it is to set things right, it's not like he can be just reshuffle funds or make a decision about a manager. He's going to learn the hard way that he should have fired him in December when he first asked to resign.
 
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:lol: Genius.
 
Minimalist said:
Tell you what, those hopeless romantics in our support were right all along.

We are different to other clubs.

I won't even call it as being 'run by morons' but we certainly are odd as feck with our decisions compared to other clubs in similar stature.

Your legendary manager retires? Hire some complete no mark to replace him.
Your manager admits he can't change it around and would rather step aside? Ignore it and keep ploughing on.

There might be method to the madness but it's still downright madness.
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Accept this never happened.
 
Adisa said:
I don't think it's blind faith. I think Ed wants someone that isn't Giggs or Mourinho.
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Yes, I think that's spot on. A vacancy now would make the Mourinho bandwagon very hard to resist, and taking a punt on an inexperienced manager after 2 failures in a row is too big a risk. I'm not sure that either would want the job on an interim basis without some longer term guarantee, and I've no doubt that this explains Ed's reluctance to see LVG leave at this stage.
 
Vangle wore a United tie when he flew in to Manchester; now he's wearing a sort of gold wallpapery one. It's a sign![/tinfoil]
 
He's going to have a sob story again during the press conference again isn't he? The people close to him, the feelings etc. By the gods, the media is speculating!
 
This reminds me of Homer Simpson being a Nuclear Safety Inspector despite not knowing what he's doing but no one seems to notice. Mourinho is Frank Grimes.
 
Ixion said:
This reminds me of Homer Simpson being a Nuclear Safety Inspector despite not knowing what he's doing but no one seems to notice. Mourinho is Frank Grimes.
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Is there anything the Simpsons can't explain?
 
Barca84 said:
It's been denied.

More smoke and mirrors than the annual AGM of the Surbiton Swingers Society :nervous:
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Ah -didn't know that. Ed Woodward really needs to get a fecking grip of this situation. Either back him or sack him (sack him is the right choice). The current circus is not doing anyone any favours at all.......
 
Lot of unanswered questions really. A replacement isn't ready which makes it difficult to take the decision. It will have to wait till we are mathematically out of top 4 would be my guess.
 
The Purley King said:
Ah -didn't know that. Ed Woodward really needs to get a fecking grip of this situation. Either back him or sack him (sack him is the right choice). The current circus is not doing anyone any favours at all.......
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The he has been consulting players part is even more bizarre.
 
I was half expecting to hear that he'd be gone in the morning. Now clinging on to that the club is being clever and want to control the media by announcing it late in the day. But we really don't do clever, do we?
 
PeteReDevil said:
I was half expecting to hear that he'd be gone in the morning. Now clinging on to that the club is being clever and want to control the media by announcing it late in the day. But we really don't do clever, do we?
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This is what I think and am clinging on to as well. We took a lot of grief for the way Moyes was sacked so if we are going to part terms with the current gaffer we better hope we do it right and as painless as possible. Having said that, even when LVG has been relieved of his duties you can bet that the press will start harping on about us not giving him enough time even though he would have been sacked at every other club in the world before now.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Shouldn't a commercial manager be dealing with sponsors? Our club is in crisis and we are buttering up sponsors. We could do with another defender, we have a shortage there, deal with that.
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Since the board didn't replaced Bolingbroke they all have to do his job on top of their previous ones, so I suppose that Arnold is a busy man.
 
Moonred said:
Lot of unanswered questions really. A replacement isn't ready which makes it difficult to take the decision. It will have to wait till we are mathematically out of top 4 would be my guess.
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What? A replacement isn't ready? Mou would probably bum his own mother to get this job.
Our board ist just hilariously incompetent.
 
If, as has been widely reported, LvG offered his resignation and it was turned down by Woody, one must begin to ask: why?

No-one expects LvG to just miraculously come good after an 18 months downward spiral and he will not be expecting LvG to suddenly come good by simply copying another managerial style (and I doubt that the proud*Dutch man would do that anyway). So one would have to assume that Woodward has something up his sleeve for the future but, that more immediately, he needs to perhaps send a message to the sponsors (after all they are his baby, not the "football" side of the club) – a sort of - we stick by our guy during the hard times and we fully expect you to do the same!
*for proud read egotistical!
Prioritising the financial side of an already successful spots club (over the sports side) can probably be got away with once or twice in a decade or so, and I must admit that the Glazers seem to have turned it into an art-form. However they are extremely good businessmen (as witnessed by our funding the next 5 generations of Glazer billionaires simply due to our love for Manchester United) and I'm pretty sure that they would not let the football or the reputation of the club drop to such low levels that their future would be put in jeopardy or that the sponsors would consider ever thinking of walking away … and, that right there folks, is my only hope for the future!

There must be some kind of plan for next season that does not include LvG and you can be sure that the main sponsors have been made aware of it if there is – unfortunately, as the Glazers know that we will all keep supporting United come what may (and probably long after they are all gone) we will be the last one's anybody factors into an important decision about the future of this club!
 
DomesticTadpole said:
So another one we haven't replaced? This is getting beyond ridiculous.
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I think they hired someone but he doesn't have Bolingbroke jobs description, I don't know if you looked at Bolingbroke's when he was still here, but now it's divided between Reigle's and Arnold's, and Arnorld's is supposed to have Woodward's old job.
 
At the Stoke game can we all not agree to chant "the sack, the sack, the sack, the sack, the sack" instead of "attack, attack, attack, attack,attack!". It might get more of a message over.
 
Minimalist said:
Tell you what, those hopeless romantics in our support were right all along.

We are different to other clubs.

I won't even call it as being 'run by morons' but we certainly are odd as feck with our decisions compared to other clubs in similar stature.

Your legendary manager retires? Hire some complete no mark to replace him.
Your manager admits he can't change it around and would rather step aside? Ignore it and keep ploughing on.

There might be method to the madness but it's still downright madness.
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We have developed a Liverpool-seque complex about being a 'different' club when it comes to managers. Like how they wailed on for so long in 90s about money corrupting other clubs but not them to the full extent, not realizing that their club was as commercial as others but just not very good at maximizing it.
Now we seem to be giving managers a long rope just to drive it home that we are not like Chelsea or Madrid who fire managers every 6 months.
 
Dr Fink said:
At the Stoke game can we all not agree to chant "the sack, the sack, the sack, the sack, the sack" instead of "attack, attack, attack, attack,attack!". It might get more of a message over.
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As much as my blood boils at him still being in charge, I think that suggestion is a bit too much.

There's a difference between showing dismay and chanting for a guy to be sacked. Everyone knows the attack chant is directed at LvG and our poor football.
 
Crackers said:
It's massaging the media, Woodward is trying to save face. He needs to go, before he completely ruins it all.
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Woodward is the real problem, but who is going to demote/fire the Executive VC of MUFC?
That is something the board will have to discuss and the Glazers know feck all about football.

It is the blind leading the blind over there.
 
The fact that the board or Ed hasn't come out and officially backed LvG amidst all this media turmoil makes me think they are considering sacking him.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Shouldn't a commercial manager be dealing with sponsors? Our club is in crisis and we are buttering up sponsors. We could do with another defender, we have a shortage there, deal with that.
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I think this could be a good thing. The CEO of Adidas has already come out and said this is not what they signed up to and I think a lot of sponsors will have the same views. I have no doubt that Woodward is having to explain to sponsors why he miss-sold them a brand and what incentive he could give them to stay. As things stands anyone with a brain will tell you we will have no CL football next year, these sponsor meetings will quickly get more difficult and awkward for him so he’ll have to act. After all his only strength so far has been his sponsor pulling power, if that dries up then no doubt his position will become as useful as a chocolate teapot.
 
Jacob said:
The fact that the board or Ed hasn't come out and officially backed LvG amidst all this media turmoil makes me think they are considering sacking him.
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Ofcourse they are considering it. I'm willing to put my house on LVG not being our manager at the start of next season. The only reason I think he's still there is Woodward doesn't want Mourinho or Giggs even on an interim basis. However, journos say Giggs doesn't want that either and whoever Woodward wants isn't available now.
 
Kevin said:
Lovely, seems like everyone is trying to rile us up by reporting snippets like this :lol:
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And it's working. I've been riled up for a good few hours now. If we're going to keep him, they should back him publically and in the market. We badly need a defender.
If not, we've got to move quickly or our season is done. They're absolutely clueless to this it seems.
 
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