Some sack straight after a game, we will be preparing a sacking.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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I read that on the way home, and the hindsight of that is awful. A lot of us, including me laughed at anything he said after he left.
The Glazers and the board are business men, and we've said it time and time again: they're not football men and it shows.
Christ, we're a mess.
It was awful to see, but unfortunately he deserves some of it. They have had enough. The only way now they can show displeasure is that or the fans stay away. Knowing our club, if the tickets didn't sell they would hire rent a crowd.
I still look back at when Moyes joined and thinking his biggest mistake was getting rid of people like Rene, or did Rene leave by himself?
He does, but I hate to see it. He's trying his best, it's the board that deserves it IMO.
Funnily enough, we need a manager like Wenger right now. Someone who handles the young players well, gets a team playing well-coached eye-pleasing football and establishes strong sustainable foundations. That's what I expected from LVG but he's clearly way past it.
But they're up against arguably the best club side ever. They also got rid of managers pretty ruthlessly even when they were the best side in Europe.
I've changed my vote from "evaluate until the end of the season" to "sack him now". Tonight's game was the final straw that broke an already struggling camel's back. His position is untenable I believe. If he stays on any longer then he will become the "Bertie Ahern" of football management.
This is way worse than Moyes now. And he's not been sacked yet.
Someone needs to get out the banners.
Someone needs to get out the banners.
What's with The Times jounos, this from Ollie, and Henry Winter calling the Glazer's 'Wretched' last night on twitter, won't make any difference but nice that the intelligent papers/journos are calling them out.
Most of our fans are like blind sheep though, the evidence of what sort of person he is was laid there before everyone. They chose to ignore it. I argued till I was blue in the face that this guy was a disaster waiting to happen.
People need to take heed of the second part of what Muelensteen said, though. Because they're still claiming we need to move away from what Ferguson did, and that is total bullshit and will kill this club.
Those in charge of making decisions are undermining the club. I'm more angry at those people than LvG.
They're being paid by the money men. And probably have a big say in the way things are run. They're free to voice their opinion or resign in protest if its "tearing them to pieces".
Yep. It is beyond a joke now tbh.
It's just tiring at this point. I can't remember the last time I actually enjoyed watching us play, because even during the games where we've been decent I've always thought "we'll probably be shite next week anyway". Under Fergie if we played badly I always thought "Whoever's playing us next is in trouble" because we usually responded to a loss by battering our next opponents. We had dips but they didn't go on long enough for me to change my thoughts. Under Moyes and now LVG I have never felt that way after months and months of utter tumescent, uninspired and depressing shite football.
My Caf resolution was to be less moany this year so I'll try and balance my depressing rant with a joke; our football.
My Caf resolution was to be less moany this year so I'll try and balance my depressing rant with a joke; our football.
In Rene's case he was asked to stay on but his role would be reduced. Moyes is a hands on manager and would get involved in training himself while Fergie was more an observer letting the coaches run the team.
He should not have let go of Phelan who carried a lineage to Utd for two decades though.
My anger is more so at the club than LVG to be honest, LVG is just going about his business, its terrible business, but he's just doing his job to the best of his abilities. The club are letting everyone down.
Like I was more angry at the board than Moyes, they are the ones who take the decisions.
You just know we won't sack him until it's mathematically impossible to get top 4 as well. You'd think the club would have learned after Moyes.
they clearly didn't. maybe they will when they see people not renewing their season ticket for next season but that's more of a blind hope than anything.
I don't get all the blaming Woody and the 'money men' for not sacking LVG. Giving a manager time is straight out of the Ferguson and Charlton philosophy for the club and it has long been said that Charlton is the one that completely objects to the appointment of Mourinho.
If we're putting so much importance into what Bobby Charlton says it proves what a mess the club is in. No disrespect to the man, but it's utterly bonkers, and I truly hope he doesn't hold the power people on here seem to think.
Don't worry guys, he'll get an ultimatum from the board and avoid the sack by getting a replay against Derby and a 0-0 draw against Stoke with 3 shots on target, which will mean ''progress''.
Then we'll lose against Chelsea and he'll get another ultimatum, leading to him keeping his job with a 1-1 draw at Sunderland. It'll be progress because of the goal.
2034: He'll get an ultimatum and keep his job after a 0-0 draw at home against Whitehawk.
Then we'll lose against Chelsea and he'll get another ultimatum, leading to him keeping his job with a 1-1 draw at Sunderland. It'll be progress because of the goal.
2034: He'll get an ultimatum and keep his job after a 0-0 draw at home against Whitehawk.
It's a viscious circle, for everyone who doesn't renew, someone else will buy it instead. That is what this club has become. All they care about is milking more and more money out of the fans for nothing in return. Oh, the honour of watching LvG mismanage our team down the league.
agreed.
van gaal should have been sacked after norwich, it doesn't take a captain hindsight to say that either as that was the majority opinion at that time, too.
I see a nice attacking performance against Derby coming on Friday to lift he heat, albeit a 3-3.....works every time.
It's not just about LVG anymore. This club is riddled with incompetence. His departure alone won't solve that, it will result in Giggsy being put in charge and Guardiola and Mourinho ending up somewhere else. There's no light at the end of this tunnel without bigger changes.
I know a lot of stats and stuff have been posted, but this is depressing. How many more records do the team have to break?
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...st-premier-league-points-total-after-23-games
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...st-premier-league-points-total-after-23-games
I think it was one of the few right things he did - though he just brought in the wrong people to replace them. The biggest reason he went wrong was that he was a complete coward and didn't make enough changes and tried to hang onto what Fergie had working. That was never going to go well for him.
He was caught in the middle of two styles of play, too much of a coward to change the squad (the players he wanted were big proven stars or his boys) so everything just fell apart around him. I think he would've done a lot better if he came in and actually tried to put his own stamp on things - even if it was his shit on a stick brand of football that worked for him. Ultimately, he still would've found himself way out of his depth though because he was simply never good enough.
Our club board must act and show us that they care about our club and us the fans.
Lingard stinks the place out and remains on the pitch. Brings on Januzaj with not even ten minutes left. Keeps Memphis on the bench. He's useless.
Lmao at him thinking we could win the title as well.
Lmao at him thinking we could win the title as well.
Is he gone yet?
As I've said before, LVG got a lot to answer for but club is cancerous from the top.
The whole lot need clearing out.
The whole lot need clearing out.
Yup, and by that point when anyone says MUFC it will be Maidstone United Football Club that springs to mind first.
You know the answer to that.
The townhall clocks around Manchester will ring out when he goes."I wanted to win this game and that’s why I changed Cameron Borthwick-Jackson for Adnan Januzaj," added the Dutchman.
That's taken from his post-match press conference. Who is he kidding, if you want to win a football match, you make the changes earlier. 5 minutes isn't enough time to win a football match.
The guy is deluded. Please, please, sack this man. He's not only distancing fans from their club, he's also destroying the long legacy of football we've come to enjoy.
That's taken from his post-match press conference. Who is he kidding, if you want to win a football match, you make the changes earlier. 5 minutes isn't enough time to win a football match.
The guy is deluded. Please, please, sack this man. He's not only distancing fans from their club, he's also destroying the long legacy of football we've come to enjoy.
Thanks for the responses folks, I didn't pay much attention at the time because I just thought "meh, what's the worst that can happen to the team after all of these changes?"
Woodward or LvG?
Why would they? Since then we've only gone on to sign even bigger sponsorships and commercial deals. Public humiliation does not matter unless it affects the bottom line. We're not at that point yet and Woodward knows making a change now will only undermine his own power.
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