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Do you want LVG sacked?


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If the club have indeed curbed transfers, and are intent on letting Van Gaal remain in charge until the end of the season - it's a gamble. A Champions' League money gamble.
 
If the club have indeed curbed transfers, and are intent on letting Van Gaal remain in charge until the end of the season - it's a gamble. A Champions' League money gamble.

True, he's lucky our rivals Leicester, Liverpool, Stoke and West Ham are also dropping lots of points. Personally I'd have sacked him weeks ago but if they're sticking with him then why not spend more money? We have loads of it. Back him or sack him I say.
 
Might be a power struggle behind the scenes. .. Woodward wants to pick likes of Guardiola/Jose and believes keeping LVG and us getting top 4 is the best way of ensuring he retains the authority to make such a decision.

On the other hand, class of 92 and Fergie would like him gone now and then they can get their claws back into the club again. Giggs in charge with the old boys in the background and SAF as advisor.

All hypothetical but something does seem amiss re: lack of spending this window - thats not like Woodward at all.
 
Why on earth do people think the class of 92 have power on decisions at United. Okay Ryan Giggs has a say, but do people honestly think Scholes, Becks, Butt and the Neville's get asked to make big calls.

Not a chance.
 
While we are at it, let us also assume that Scholes has planted voodoo dolls all around OT and that is the reason for lack of transfers.
 
If you take his premise that a player needs a lot of time to absorb all the coaching and get Van Gaal's system to be true (which I realise a lot of you do not), it makes absolutely no sense to sign players just to add numbers. Unless we are signing an absolute star (fat chance in January) , we aren't gonna do any business, and just as well.
 
Might be a power struggle behind the scenes. .. Woodward wants to pick likes of Guardiola/Jose and believes keeping LVG and us getting top 4 is the best way of ensuring he retains the authority to make such a decision.

On the other hand, class of 92 and Fergie would like him gone now and then they can get their claws back into the club again. Giggs in charge with the old boys in the background and SAF as advisor.

All hypothetical but something does seem amiss re: lack of spending this window - thats not like Woodward at all.

Only Woodward has any power out of these, though.
 
Im not dismissing it as a possibility but I find it hard to imagine SAF behind the scenes actively trying to get rid of Van Gaal. After all the things he has said over the years about the position of a manager at a club, his criticism of boards and owners' lack of patience in sacking managers for short term performance and understanding better than anyone the pressures managers can face when they experience a difficult run of form, I think he would either advocate giving Van Gaal time, or maybe stay out of it altogether. Yes he might have reservations about the direction Van Gaal is taking the club but he would be a massive hypocrite if he interfered.

Having said all that I havent followed closely anything he has said since he quit as our manager, I havent read his latest book or anything. I am sure he could find a way to justify it if he did decide to do exactly the opposite of what he always said execs should do when he was manager. And I can imagine him being in favour of giving Giggs a chance when the opportunity does present itself.
 
Im not dismissing it as a possibility but I find it hard to imagine SAF behind the scenes actively trying to get rid of Van Gaal. After all the things he has said over the years about the position of a manager at a club, his criticism of boards and owners' lack of patience in sacking managers for short term performance and understanding better than anyone the pressures managers can face when they experience a difficult run of form, I think he would either advocate giving Van Gaal time, or maybe stay out of it altogether. Yes he might have reservations about the direction Van Gaal is taking the club but he would be a massive hypocrite if he interfered.

Having said all that I havent followed closely anything he has said since he quit as our manager, I havent read his latest book or anything. I am sure he could find a way to justify it if he did decide to do exactly the opposite of what he always said execs should do when he was manager. And I can imagine him being in favour of giving Giggs a chance when the opportunity does present itself.
Well if by whiskey...
 
Why on earth do people think the class of 92 have power on decisions at United. Okay Ryan Giggs has a say, but do people honestly think Scholes, Becks, Butt and the Neville's get asked to make big calls.

Not a chance.

Because the press need something to write about, the BBC needs something to show, and the readers don't think much for themselves. I doubt whether Giggsy has much say either, by the way.
 
Probably bullshit


Heard about this earlier. Terrible article. It shows they have nothing else to put on the back page. As if we had plans for major transfers this month. The chances of signing major targets are zilch in this window. So when we likely sign nobody The Mirror will see themselves as having told us all about it.
 
One step forward, two steps back
I've said this time and time and it sums up LvG at Utd. You think a corner is being turned and we end up hitting a brick wall. The man is the king of doing just about enough to stay in his job. I wouldn't be surprised if we fluked a win today despite this god awful performance so that there's no pressure on him, again.
 
I've said it before, but I'll say it again - we're embarrassingly useless at keeping the ball under pressure, which makes Van Gaal's philosophy absolutely pointless.

Yet another 45 minutes down the drain.
 
Half-time in Man United's last 11 matches at Old Trafford:

0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-1
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
 
He's even given up on the possession philosophy. It's all about hoofing it forward these days.

It's simply not good enough 18 months after he took charge.
 
Been away so I haven't seen the first half but yet again 0-0 at half time and the radio is suggesting it's more tumescent football.

Surely this can't continue? The board are now looking clueless.
 
Did you guys notice that once he stopped yapping about philosophy and all that shit we no longer dominate the possession like we used to? Could all the 'loosening trainings' and all be truth?

Doesn't bode well either for both the players and Giggs.
 
I just dont get it...

Firstly its such an awful formation, it never worked when he kept trying it before, so why try it again and again?
Secondly why when we are Manchester United at home are we changing our system to play against a team who are 10th in the league...
Finally the obsession with playing players out of position:
> Lingard not a wing back
> Martial not a RW
> Rooney not a LW
> Herrera seems to be playing up front
> Could add Darmian and Blind here too as there not CBs

Its just a shambles, its really frustrating watching this. Sooner it ends the better.
 
Sort of game that's epitomising the side's play. Everything is just so pedestrian and dull.
 
It's absurd how he's still in the job.

I'd love to know how these clowns justify this.
 
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