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And the ddg kicking out the hands up field to Rooney .
Wheres that ploy come from ?
I agree about chances vs us etc. It's just a small but annoying thing I find with his interviews. In the Arsenal vs Newcastle game Cech made a few big saves but Wenger had no problems praising him for saving points/giving them a chance to win. I don't get why Van Gaal tends to struggle with just coming out and saying "yes he kept us in the game with a couple vital saves and saved us points, thankfully his saves didn't go to waste etc.". It's not hard at all
I'll let him him have this one today, results in these are just a little sweeter when we play like shit.
Today, it probably made sense to play less intricate little short balls, as players like Milner and Henderson as fairly limited as they are, are dogs who can press for 90.
Take out the short passes, and you take out their gameplan, is no doubt the theory.
Pumping it down field straight into their keeper's arms, having spent 5mins trying to get it back wasn't fun to watch though
Don't think he's the man for us but credit where it's due, he's managed to get results in the big games.
Sorry mate, that was a shitty sort of reply from me.
Your just on it arnt you. You will take any weakness an attribute it to van gaal.
Martial - van gaal
Shaw- van gaal
Herrera- van gaal
Blind - van gaal
On form smalling - after van gaal
On form young ( better player than he ever was) - after van gaal
Memphis is getting better wvery game- van gaal
Rooney is undisputed nunber 1 atm - because of van gaal.
Scneirdlin- been disappointed by his attacking abiliry but defensively he makes us better - van gaal
Schweinsteiger- always better on the field & experienced enough - van gaal
Wtf are you seeing that im not?
Never mind lingard, Borthwick jackson, periera, Mcnair all have progressed because of him, some who really wouldn't have had a chance befoere.
Have you ever heard of punctuation?
LvG's philosophy will work in the long run. You saw it today. Must be given a contract extension IMHO.
Don't think we dealt with the pressing too well and they should have punished us but considering our thin midfield, the approach was right. Arsenal got into a slugfest here last week and came away with only 1 point. Do that against a bottom half side at home, though, and any goodwill from today gets destroyed.
Two home games in the league. Got tickets to both. Let's win them both and go for the league!
Credit to him for making better use of Fellaini today. He should still go, obviously
Jesus, that list is desperate stuff.
Martial - Fair enough but the fact we are relying on a 19 year old tells it's own story.
Shaw - He had been targeted long before Van Gaal was even mentioned in connection with the United job.
Herrera - Another player that United were after before Van Gaal joined. He has also misused him throughout his tenure.
Blind - Good squad player. Shouldn't be starting at centre back though.
Smalling - Yes, he's one of the few positives so Van Gaal deserves credit.
Young - He has improved but still isn't good enough. Can't blame Van Gaal for that though.
Memphis - He's had two decent cameos after being awful up to about Christmas. Hardly a convincing argument for a player we spent £25 million on.
Rooney -
Schneiderlin - Decent, nothing more.
Schweinsteiger - Good buy but has hardly blown anyone away with his performances.
Martial was a good signing. Luke Shaw was coming to Utd regardless. Our keeper was already here. Our best defender was already here and blossomed due to staying fit. Carrick is still our best midfielder and if you're really attributing Rooney's current form as due to Van Gaal then you do yourself no favours. Rooney is number one because Van Gaal sold all his competition. Depay has been shite. Any improvement has been from atrocious to slightly less atrocious. If you want to credit players progression under Van Gaal then you have to give him criticism for the awful performances of the players he's got nowhere near the best from.
Ultimately we're weaker up front, out wide and in defensive numbers. Van Gaal's squad building for you. One minute you're saying the youngsters are holding us back the next the manager deserves praise for how well they're doing. Make up your mind.
That list also conveniently ignores the keepers he bought, the ones w signed and sold and Darmian and Rojo.Jesus, that list is desperate stuff.
Martial - Fair enough but the fact we are relying on a 19 year old tells it's own story.
Shaw - He had been targeted long before Van Gaal was even mentioned in connection with the United job.
Herrera - Another player that United were after before Van Gaal joined. He has also misused him throughout his tenure.
Blind - Good squad player. Shouldn't be starting at centre back though.
Smalling - Yes, he's one of the few positives so Van Gaal deserves credit.
Young - He has improved but still isn't good enough. Can't blame Van Gaal for that though.
Memphis - He's had two decent cameos after being awful up to about Christmas. Hardly a convincing argument for a player we spent £25 million on.
Rooney -
Schneiderlin - Decent, nothing more.
Schweinsteiger - Good buy but has hardly blown anyone away with his performances.
Say what?
Martial - van Gaal deserves a lot of credit for this.
Shaw - been injured all the time.
Herrera - been poor most of the time, here.
Blind - van Gaal made a really good signing here.
Smalling - no. He got over his injury issues.
Young - he's so average.
Memphis - he's been woeful.
Rooney - rubbish.
Morgan - yes, van Gaal deserves credit here.
BFS - he's been quite poor.
Crazy thing is, as bad as it has been, He can still turn the season around. There is around 4 and a half months worth of football. A lot can happen in a month let alone 4 months.
Dare I say, if we win the four fixtures against the four above us, you just never know...
The only players there who have been slightly better than average are Martial and Shaw. Even Herrera isn't doing much at the moment.
Smalling isn't anything to do with LVG.
I'm not even saying they're bang average players, which should say something in itself about LVG.
Van Gaal's handling of the squad in terms of balance and depth has been one of his biggest mistakes and it's something that could continue to hurt us beyond his tenure. There's a reason why we never had such a ridiculous player turnover under Ferguson. Even when we had poorer squad and a few years where didn't really challenge in that 2003-2006 period you never saw us get of get rid of ≈18 players in two seasons, bringing in 12 and cutting the squad.
Like I've said countless times, he's still our best bet for top 4 this season. We should part ways in the summer.
It is nuts when you consider that we would have been 3 points behind Arsenal (right now) had we won vs Newcastle the other day. Win 3/4 games in a row in this league and you are back in the mix again for the title.
Its probably that kind of thinking that's annoys us the most, we should be in the mix.
For me at least, i no longer feel as excited as i used to before a game, and that has everything to do about our rubbish football.
At the start of the season i thought it was teething issues, bedding in the new players, Rooney being a spent force etc. Turns out, it is not, and its mostly down to our tactics.
The fact that Van Gaal also takes no responsibility and talk absolute bollocks in his interviews has pushed me further into the "out camp" as the season has progressed
Today was another horror show and we got lucky. Nothing has changed.
Thats because they have not done well =/
Convenient lol.
All these butt hurt anti LVG brigade.
And shaw was targeted but LVG still could have decided yes or no as he did with herrera. If people saying herrera hasn't been all that great & attribute that to LVG then the same can be done to shaw. Who also happens to be a chelsea supporter at the time where they were stronger than us.
Blind is fantastic, how anyone can call him a squad player when he starts every game, takes our corners & provides everything that smalling would struggle with etc. How is he a freaking squad player lol.
Also smalling has been fantastic under van gaal if you attribute his rise completely away from LVG then, somw of you need to stop playing fifa & think every player is bound to some potential.
Sorry to piss you guys off - il go back to the anyone believe in LVG anymore thread.
Sorry for my punctuation- im on my phone.
We created what, two chances? And scored one of them. We are depending on luck to decide matches. We looked disorganized with the lead, poor ball control. Fellaini.
All boils down to what we are all having to watch, and that I'm sure even you can't be happy with.
Cant believe we are only 7 points behind Arsenal. If I had any faith in the manager I'd be quietly confident we'd put a run together and win this. Especially with Arsenal, City, Leicester and Spurs ahead of us. Shame really.
Im not happy with it but this isnt a full LVG team by any standard. Anyone who knows his teams & his influence knows what players need replacing. TBH theres no need to replace but just add.
There's alot of expectations on this team (rightly so) but we are trying to play like an organised team without an organised squad.
What is wrong with this guy in the media? He tries to be clever, but if I were DDG, I would be fuming with LVG's comments. He should be praising him for being able to make those saves WITHOUT having much to do otherwise. Ridiculous man management in the media. Also, why say that Lingard is slow and Young is no Ronaldo? What is he going to achieve with spouting sh*t like that? Even after a win he gets me mad.
7 pts from 9, other results have gone his way again this weekend.
We're back in the title race, 7pts is nothing at this stage of the season.
Like it or not, he's weathered the storm and is here for the season now.
We're back in the title race, 7pts is nothing at this stage of the season.
Like it or not, he's weathered the storm and is here for the season now.
Manchester United, poor = LvG
Like PSV at home and Wolfsburg away?
Ha ha ha, someone mentioned Utd in the title race. I think not. There is no corner that has been turned. We will continue to play this bland keep-ball. I really want him out with a passion.
7 points off the top. If we can use this win to get into something resembling good form then the title is there for the taking.
I'm that close to being optimistic again but I know Louie is a stuborn f#ck and we may very soon get back into old way of dealing with things but for the time being why not being slightly less depressed.
I'm feeling great after the game today!
It's clear though that the players are still very much behind LVG so that's a big plus in my eyes. Just need to string a 4 or 5 wins in the trot and we'll be within touching distance!
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