Club is potentially prepared to miss out on CL income to complete Van Gaal's contract? Nah. If he doesn't get a top four this season he'll go. If he gets a top four, we may have to sit through another season.
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Club is potentially prepared to miss out on CL income to complete Van Gaal's contract? Nah. If he doesn't get a top four this season he'll go. If he gets a top four, we may have to sit through another season.
It's like being stuck in your car with an 18wheeler coming in a head on collision but you can't do anything about it. This club is in trouble.
Is Northcroft reliable or does he has a tendency to write provocative clickbait? I sincerely hope it's the latter. If not, it seems the club has learnt nothing from the Moyes debacle and is once again tilting at windmills by looking for a manager who will stay 20 years and create a dynasty
'It is believed that they would only change course if there was a further slide in results.'
Doesn't sounds like total backing.
Doesn't sounds like total backing.
If there is even an essence of truth to that article, then at least we now know why LVG hasn't been sacked.
It'll be sad to see a United playing legend like Giggs getting the managerial sack in his first season in charge.
It'll be sad to see a United playing legend like Giggs getting the managerial sack in his first season in charge.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't bat an eyelid if LVG was sacked tomorrow but the last 2 two games have seen a definitive improvement and football has been more in line with what you would expect from United. Some will say Chelsea and Swansea are crap, which they are, but the tempo has been so much better than we've showed at any point in the season. The confidence is still fragile and our heads did seem to drop when we did not get the early goal but the team showed great strength to come back in the 2nd half and begin with the same intensity as we did in the first and then to get the 2nd goal after Swansea had equalized. Hopefully this marks a turning point and gives the team the confidence we desperately need.
Not sure if this has been posted (probably has).
ManUtd goals by calendar year:
2015: 76
2014: 74
2013: 102
2012: 115
2011: 127
2010: 115
2009: 127
2008: 113
2007: 115
2006: 106
ManUtd goals by calendar year:
2015: 76
2014: 74
2013: 102
2012: 115
2011: 127
2010: 115
2009: 127
2008: 113
2007: 115
2006: 106
I'm interested to know whether all these 'angry and annoyed' posters wanting LvG out of 'their' club, have bothered to head down to OT or Carrington to vent their frustration at LvG?
I'm hardly over the moon about LvG and what he is achieving, but when I go watch I cheer, clap and sing...even LvG's red and white army.
If you want your club to do something about it, then you do something about it. But I can assure you, OT is hardly the place to be chanting LvG out as all the match going fans I know and see are happy enough. The club will do what it will do with this situation, we need to get behind the team.
I'm hardly over the moon about LvG and what he is achieving, but when I go watch I cheer, clap and sing...even LvG's red and white army.
If you want your club to do something about it, then you do something about it. But I can assure you, OT is hardly the place to be chanting LvG out as all the match going fans I know and see are happy enough. The club will do what it will do with this situation, we need to get behind the team.
You tell people whom are angry to go and show the club. Then you say actually no we need to get behind the team. Hmm.
As many posters who want LVG out rightly mention, one win out of 9 is still a cause for concern.
However, improvement starts in small steps. If there isn't 1 win out of 9, there will not be 2 out of 10 or 3 out of 11...
It's very clear (from the polls) that majority on this forum want LVG out, but noises from the club appear that he will stay at least till the end of the season.
In that case, does it help to continue being negative? Stop feeding the beast, I say.
The club management is showing that it is backing the Manager. Shouldn't the fans start to rally behind the manager as well?
However, improvement starts in small steps. If there isn't 1 win out of 9, there will not be 2 out of 10 or 3 out of 11...
It's very clear (from the polls) that majority on this forum want LVG out, but noises from the club appear that he will stay at least till the end of the season.
In that case, does it help to continue being negative? Stop feeding the beast, I say.
The club management is showing that it is backing the Manager. Shouldn't the fans start to rally behind the manager as well?
I agree. To boo your manager or players is just poor. As is the noise if someone dares to make a back pass. Our players have lost a lot of confidence and they'd need the fans to help them get up again
Because they don't have the balls to do it. Keyboard warriors. Hmmm..
I meant the contradiction in your post.
Me, personally? I'd never go to Carrington or Old Trafford and boo. Some might though. I've been to OT a number of times since I've made my mind up that I want LVG out but I haven't booed. I don't think it's productive or the right place to do it. It's got nothing to do with having the balls.
Don't worry man, at our current rate in 2016, assuming we play an average of one game per week and score 2 goals per game, we should be getting 104 goals this year, which would only be the fourth worst total since those records began and overall the best since Sir Alex retired. Get in!
Crazy.
There are reports that Zidane will take over from Rafa when he is sacked, which I thought might make a good case study for predicting if Giggs will be any good, being a former big player heavily ingratiated into the club's hierarchy and all (Mourinho apparently had big problems with him when there, but Zinedine stayed put).
But after looking it up even Zidane has more experience than Giggs has as he's currently managing the Real Madrid B team (which in Spain is far independent and plays in the lower tiers below its parent club). And this was pretty much the same as Pep, who is often touted as a prior example of a 'no experience manager' going on to do it all, which couldn't be further from the truth.
But I guess Giggs had three games more experience than Gary and he's just got Rafa the sack in Spain, so what do I know.
They will. Once we fall into the inevitable people will jump on Giggsy's back (rightfully so) and this is something I'll hate, his legend tarnished by simply being a shit coach. I expect hell because his tenure will allow more failures than LVG's I assume.
It's more the case that Giggs is just a relative idiot compared to most top managers. You can usually listen to someone talk and make a (fairly) accurate estimation of their intelligence. You can't manage a top top club and not be pretty intelligent. Jose Mourinho - intelligent. Pep Guardiola - intelligent. Zinedine Zidane - intelligent. Sir Alex Ferguson - intelligent. Frank Lampard (though not yet a manager) - intelligent. Ryan Giggs - myyyehh. Perhaps he can go on to be an Alan Pardew tier manager but that's his limit.
If Rafa hadn't managed liverpool how would people have felt about him as our Interim manager til the summer ?
If you think the soul of the club resides in the fans, and they, more than the media or expert commentators and pundits, have a right to influence the club's affairs, where else can they be heard, and that influence effectively exerted, but on match days? Boozy protests down the pub, or grumbling on internet forums, are like screaming in space - no one will hear you.
Fans who sing LVG songs at Old Trafford are acting to keep him in place - it's bizarre for someone who actually wants him gone to do that.
Apologies if this has already been discussed but the CEO of Adidas has come out with the below. Surely this would have caught the attention of the owners and Woodward in particular. I'm sure there are other sponsors who have exactly the same feeling, and you can't blame them given how much they pay. I can also see using being selected less often to be shown on TV.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35227015
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35227015
No windup,personally I wouldn't want him managing Utd but I dont think he's worse than Hughes or Pardrew yet some on here have been flirting with the idea of those two.Wind up surely
Was curious if there were people on here would take him ?
The 'that's a fact' rant proves that he hasn't got the temperament for a high profile job IMHO.
Very interesting .... I think that will influence Woodward's view on LVG far more than any fan revolt.
personally wouldn't want any you mentioned don't know why people want any of those.
I'm Not a fan Of Rafa at all even if he never managed Liverpool I still wouldn't want him
Would also dismiss this as pure provocation under normal circumstances. The sad truth is though, that the reality may be quite close to this shit.
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It sounds as if Mourinho made himself available but was told we are sticking with Van Gaal for now.
http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-uni...chester-united-frustrating-jose-mourinho-camp
http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-uni...chester-united-frustrating-jose-mourinho-camp
Woodward seems to be the don of getting the best sponsorship deals, if our sponsors are not happy if true, VG either better start adapting better to the PL, or join benitez because even Woodward needs to make sure the coins are rolling in. Best for business is more important that some outdated policy the club has that they stick by their managers
No...surely not...
Barca, Madrid and Atletico currently have ex players with zero manager experience prior in charge.
I for one won't mind Giggs, at least the ex players and press will bear their fangs less, the fans will support Giggs as well.
I'm pretty sure Simeone and Enrique had experience before hand...
And even the case of Zidane at Madrid is slightly different because he's already got a massive collection of world class players at his disposal, and his probably at very little risk of finishing below 3rd unless he completely and monumentally fecks up.
There"s absolutely no reason to hire giggs after van gaal- unless this magic progression post sack at Barcelona & bayern is true. Even then guardiola shiukd take over.
What??
Simone had 5 years experience prior, managed in 3 different countries, won two league titles, with two different clubs and help a team avoid relegationYou do know that Luis Enrique and Diego Simeone had more than two managerials jobs each before joining their respective clubs right?
So that is simply a lie.
I would rather commit ritual seppuku than let that man anywhere near this club. He doesn't have the temperament, intelligence, style, substance or common sense to manage Man Utd. He is not a big enough personality, he doesn't have the balls, the team wouldn't respect him, tactically he is bumbling...I could go on.
Legitimately, if it came between Rafa and Alan Pardew, I would go for Pardew.
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