LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Could well have been. Either that or Ed was awol with his pie money!Still not sure what links are and aren't allowed on here, just visit his twitter page the link is on there.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/fo...manchester-united-standing-louis-van-10662417
Found it. Mitten can be a sanctimonious arsehole at times.
It's a dreadful article and he should be ashamed, but can't say I'm surprised with him as the author.
If anything Mitten's got it the wrong way round. VG's support seems to be mostly from United fans who have followed him in previous roles. Matchgoers that don't give a toss what he did in other places are the ones most likely to be against him. I wasn't at Stoke, but I was OT for West Ham, and the boos were from the Stretty, not the tourists.
those who know a thing or two about Manchester United.
He also seems to think those who go to matches and don't want to let their true feelings out at the ground don't then go home and vent their true feeling on social media, thus joining the 'angry mob'
He was pulling this 'real fans' bullshit with Moyes as well. Somebody from the club has clearly helped him with this article if you ask me. Nothing like a bit of divide and rule when things get tough for them.
Mitten is a cnut.
It's all well and good him panning the online fans, but it's those people who consume his content.
Don't bite the hand that feeds and all that.
this is like when Moyes started falling apart, each game the cameraman would find Fergie and it would make a story. when we are winning nobody cares he is in the stadium
now why would they do that do ya think?????
snakes the lot of them. van Gaal is the happiest of them though.
He is just so dam smug with it all, he generally knows very little, and writes as many articles as he can telling us just how little he knows in as many words as he can.
This article is pretty low if you ask me, and you might be right about how it came about.
Wonder if maybe the Chelsea performance maybe finally the shoe dropping for LVG realizing he needs to let his players play. Maybe it's finally sunk in. After the Stoke game he said we didn't play in the first half but, that is something we've done almost every game this season, we've just not conceded 2 like we did on the day. We never ever go out and play to start a game and that has come through from his training and instruction. Just maybe the light has gone off and knowing he doesn't need to resign if he adjusts himself rather than forcing something that has repeatedly failed. For his sake, hope he just says feck it - lets give it a go and try finish his career the right way rather than in abject failure. Wishful thinking of a man with a huge ego.
now why would they do that do ya think?????
snakes the lot of them. van Gaal is the happiest of them though.
It's frankly disgusting, they are happy to have the online mob when they try to sell the club to a sponsor or a player, they are happy to take the millions from the online and TV mob pockets, and when the money is tranferred they treat them like sub-fans.
I'm sure Fergie had something to do with the Chelsea performance.
Perhaps slowly re-inserting himself into things. Rather than fully taking over. I would feel a lot more comfortable with that. Hopefully a proper manager in the summer.
Perhaps slowly re-inserting himself into things. Rather than fully taking over. I would feel a lot more comfortable with that. Hopefully a proper manager in the summer.
the overseas fans hate van Gaal and are not afraid to show it. They have invested not just money but themselves in Manchester United. I occasionally talk to some of them. They are as passionate and knowledgeable about the game as any in the UK.
That article reads like something from the distance past; in those days when people either had a desktop or not. Remember when the box of wires used to wirrrr and go bump in the night and people would ask, 'Are you on the inter-thingy? No Carruthers that's for the riff-raff.'
How ridiculous, but worse what has the television public been listening to if its not boos from the ground. If anything the guys on-line have been more supportive of the players and even LVG until quite recently. Did the TV pundits imagine the dross, the P45 in ground, or the fact at Stoke after the booing LVG mentioned resignation
Well I suppose as a Red Issue reader I could never go along with Mitten's softly peddled polemics. However, this article and the about turn of the pundits that was so noticeable after the game yesterday does indicate this 'fish stinks from the head.'
I can tell you that some of the abroad fans like myself are just as passionate about United as fans who live in the UK. United got a big part of my life and it will always be like that.
Mitten's article makes it seems like the match going fans are the ones who want Van Gaal out but Tel's been to a fair few United games and he's been saying Van Gaal out for weeks now, way before I even considered that possibility.
It's not as simple as "overseas/online fans are idiotic glory hunters who don't know we stand by our managers blabla."
and rightfully so, because love have no boundaries (cheesy).
we are all United fans for our own reasons. Faith, joy, hope, whatever. It doesn't matter where you come from or where you live as long as we do our best to support our team. Nothing else matters.
Good for you mate, this article is condescending and pathetic. Write to Mitten and call him a muppet.
Very true, the back tracking after our sumptuous 0-0 yesterday has been quite remarkable, from a manger on the edge he has now seemingly not just saved himself but has many people thinking he has finally turned a corner.....got me scratching my head that's for sure.
Mind you I am just an online poster 'venting my fury' so my opinion doesn't count I suppose.
Wasn't he denying the report from The Sun/The Daily Star that said he got a call from Fergie & Gill, and not actually admitting it happened?
That is mostly true because he ripped apart mostly our entire frontline and creativity, put all our eggs in one basket in his captain marvel, and not replaced any of them. Look at the transfer policy of VG this summer, it scratches the head of the lack of replacements of who we sold in the attacking side of things
He signed - Memphis a winger/Martial striker
He sold/loaned/let go - Nani winger/Janazaj winger/no10/Di Maria winger/RVP striker/Hernandez striker/Falcao striker/wilson striker
So when we break it down, he decided to settle with mata, young, depay, rooney, martial, he miss uses Herrera, he bitched all last season he was lacking forwards and wingers with real movement and pace yet he has the faith in rooney who is everything but acceleration, hell he moves out more numbers at the back and not replaces the numbers. I am not that annoyed he sold the players he did apart from hernandez and Janazaj loaned out, and possibly nani, but do not leave us too short with an extra competition it makes no sense. The thing that boggles the mind even more, we had a deeper pool of players last season with no European football than this season. Yes many can say it is hindsight, but it is not hindsight to have a weaker pool of players this season than last, with the midfield slightly improved this season
Credit to Burley for what he said, one of the few pundits that have actually seriously questioned this idea that Van Gaal has somehow turned it around with a drab 0-0 draw against an utterly rubbish Chelsea team. I can only think that the club were never even considering sacking him at this stage, even after the run of defeats and our relegation form. I'm thinking this because I'd rather believe they were just clueless instead of having the lowest standards of what constitutes 'progress', because if THAT is what has 'saved' his job then I despair. Actually scratch that, I despair anyway, the fact he's still here is absolutely baffling.
Particularly with Mourinho available, it would seem the club would rather suffer mediocrity with such a 'classy' guy like Van Gaal instead of actually achieving success with Mourinho because of all his much talked about 'baggage'. You only have to look at how some people talk about Mourinho's character on here, the man's literally worse than Pol Pot last I heard. The best thing the club could do would be bringing in an elite manager to instill a winning mentality and actually start performing to our potential, seriously challenge for some trophies and start setting high standards for a club that likes to think itself similar to Barca and Bayern. Having a winning habit can transcend any new manager (as long as they arent utterly useless) and wouldn't allow expectations to drop so drastically like they have in the last two years. But of course that would be showing ambition and would require some fecking balls.
But no, instead we're going to stick with a lame duck manager on his last gig, talk about setting a so-called 'philosophy' and work on 'behind the scenes' stuff and aim for top 4 finishes while we piss away millions on overpaid transfer targets with no real standards or expectations befitting a club of our stature. And if all of this is leading to having Giggs succeed because of 'reasons' then the club is basically doing a 90's Liverpool job that will just set us back even further.
Particularly with Mourinho available, it would seem the club would rather suffer mediocrity with such a 'classy' guy like Van Gaal instead of actually achieving success with Mourinho because of all his much talked about 'baggage'. You only have to look at how some people talk about Mourinho's character on here, the man's literally worse than Pol Pot last I heard. The best thing the club could do would be bringing in an elite manager to instill a winning mentality and actually start performing to our potential, seriously challenge for some trophies and start setting high standards for a club that likes to think itself similar to Barca and Bayern. Having a winning habit can transcend any new manager (as long as they arent utterly useless) and wouldn't allow expectations to drop so drastically like they have in the last two years. But of course that would be showing ambition and would require some fecking balls.
But no, instead we're going to stick with a lame duck manager on his last gig, talk about setting a so-called 'philosophy' and work on 'behind the scenes' stuff and aim for top 4 finishes while we piss away millions on overpaid transfer targets with no real standards or expectations befitting a club of our stature. And if all of this is leading to having Giggs succeed because of 'reasons' then the club is basically doing a 90's Liverpool job that will just set us back even further.
I read it again and it's even more ludicrous send time round. Does this twat presume to speak for all match going reds or just his mates? My nephew goes religiously and from what he tells me, the boos after the Norwich game came from the hard core lads. Someone is feeding stuff to Mitten and, like the good little sycophant he is, he puts it out there, denigrating thousands of loyal United fans in the process.
For the experienced folk, how would you compare the O'Farell spell with Van gaal's?
Very true, the back tracking after our sumptuous 0-0 yesterday has been quite remarkable, from a manger on the edge he has now seemingly not just saved himself but has many people thinking he has finally turned a corner.....got me scratching my head that's for sure.
Mind you I am just an online poster 'venting my fury' so my opinion doesn't count I suppose.
Let's vent together....
Never been quite smitten with Mitten. His take on club finances in the 1990s was ambiguous. Today he wants to be the loyal opposition, which often means he sits in the fence but I do wonder who on earth he thought the audience might be for this article. It's so retro and quaint it's almost OT official speak. Sad.
Not sure you can compare such different eras fairly.
We are in the top 10! Why is everyone so mad?
This made me laugh so I thought I'd post it even though I probably shouldn't.
Equally horrible!
Well that's us told. Too much crap to go through in that article but he clearly thinks a lot of himself.
Also he doesn't show the 'match-going' fans to be 'better' than the rest, he simply points out that they don't boo him during the match. He also admits that some of those fans are so contrarian in nature they'll just take the opposite opinion to that online for the sake of it.
Stupid article and again he comes off like a real fecking know-it-all without any substance to back it up. Quite frankly, it's another example of stupid romanticism that currently infects this club.
I read that Farrel got the sack after winning his last 7 games in charge. Is this true?
That was Sexton.
Oh I see. Thanks.
So here's a question, LVG a day or so before the Chelsea game said he couldnt motivate his players and there was no hope and after one good half of a performance (and ANOTHER 0-0 draw) he now wants to stay based on the back of that performance against a massively horrid Chelsea side, so our next 2 games are Swansea and Sheff Utd, what happens when we have another two abject performances? When does the penny finally have to drop with Woodward and/or LVG and why are we putting so much faith in a short temporary gap anyway? he only has 18 months left, it's not like this is a manager like AVB who has a future in the game, the man wants to flat out retire after us.
Two more people have just voted to give him an extension. Fair play, great times for opposition fans.
Imagine the fun peterstorey would be having now, painful, but at least he'd have given us a laugh out of it.
Imagine the fun peterstorey would be having now, painful, but at least he'd have given us a laugh out of it.
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