I think we have more sense than to appoint Giggs full time. I'm treating everything as speculation for now.
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Too many what ifs
The club just need to make a move on Pep now, find out his plans and put an offer on the table not wait until the end of the season to find out he's already at city and risk Jose not being available.
Look at Bayern, they didn't wait for Pep. They sniffed uncertainty and went straight for the replacement because they understand how the market works, hoping that tweet is BS but MUFC cannot afford to adopt the same complacency that basically coerced them into choosing Moyes.
He's decent with German football, but he doesn't know much else. He loves to speculate.
based on what?
Fjutort doesn't know shit.
hope so.
Not sure if there's any reliability to that but it might be a decent solution if it's only for the rest of the season. I'm not sure Van Gaal is going to be able to turn things around now while it gives the club the chance to see if Guardiola is available. I'm also not sure Mourinho jumping straight back into work is the best idea given how erratic his behaviour has been in recent months, even if he was going to be the new manager it might be better for him to have a break first. We're not going to win the league realistically and so appointing Giggs would give us time to make the right appointment this time.
See these guys on twitter know that no matter how much they're wrong people will always buy into their nonsense. Nothing to lose from taking a punt on that tidbit of 'news' - but an absolute load of followers to gain each time, I'm sure.
The only way I can even see it happening is if we are sure Pep is coming to us next season and LVG's position has become untenable to the point that he has lost the dressing room.
Why don't you do research?
Ladyman posted the same fecking thing in his article.
Who hired Van Gaal? It was Woodward and Glazers decision.
Fjortoft knows feck all. But I wouldn't be very surprised if they appoint Giggs.
God if this is true I'll go mad.
They announced it in the morning. I was doing some volunteering at a school and I remember seeing the official tweet while i was waiting in the reception.
Hiring Giggs as Van Gaal's replacement would depress me far more than keeping LVG till the end of the season. Please dont Woody.
Still feel there is no benefit in sacking him now. End of the season politely part ways and put Giggs in charge for the new season.
That's right. They tweeted happy birthday to Dion Dublin first thing and then tried to sneakily slip in "Oh yeah, we've sacked Moyes" straight after. It was rather undignified that all the press broke it at the same time the day before.
Of course, and how do we know those conversations aren't already ongoing? For all we know we could have an agreement with Pep already.
Instead people prefer to go into panic mode because they have such a fierce hatred for one of the club's biggest legends.
If United sack van Gaal Giggs until the end of the season is a huge risk and that's nothing to do with his lack of experience and credentials. If he's successful, the support he'd get from media, fans and others to be United's permanent manager will be extreme. Maybe too extreme for United to ignore.
You really don't see the benefit of sacking him now? Read the bolded part slowly and perhaps you will realize why it is imperative.
Well, stupid is that stupid does.
For the record, I think Woody is anything but an idiot when it comes to certain aspects of the operation. Football matters? Not his forte. He can make stupid decisions pertaining to the football without being inherently stupid.
Let's see what he does. But I repeat that my post was in reply to one that commented specifically on the ultimatum, it wasn't a random dig at Woody.
If he is able to be successful and improve our style of play and our results, then I don't see any harm in him getting a shot. However, it is a huge risk to even test that scenario out at this juncture.
Getting Giggs for me would be acceptable only if we've secured Pep for next year. Even if, it's not like we need to sack LVG, we could sack him at the end of the season and simply let Pep over. Just get Mou now imo, he's available, wants to come here for sure, can get rid of LVG, all smiles.
We're sorry LVG, we will delete every bad post and thread about you.
Now let's get behind him and beat Stoke GGMU
If we appoint Giggs..... Terrible
Not wanting him to manage the club doesn't mean he is hated.
The reactions are extreme, though. The way people talk about it as if it would be the end of the world, you wouldn't expect to see United fans talking about Giggs like that.
He might just be a huge success, win us the league and manage us for the next 10 years. Wouldn't that be cool?
Giggs has been under LVG for a year and a half now, it wouldn't be the worst thing getting him as manager. Imagine being Valencia.
He'd certainly care a bit more about what the fans have to say
He'd certainly care a bit more about what the fans have to say
He did, actually. Both Bobby and Fergie were consulted in advance - so they say, at least. To what extent this was a formality, however, is another matter.
Let's get Keane, Bruce, or Hughes as managers.
I mean they made great world class managers because Fergie coached them. Giggs will be even better.
Being a legend has nothing to do with it. He's been apart of two failed coaching reigns. There is no indication he'd be a great manager.
If Fjortoft is wrong on this then he should be blacklisted on here from now on.
In that thread no one talked badly about Giggs, there is a handful of bad apples on the forum but stop putting everyone in the same bag.
No, there's not but there's also no indication that LVG is a great manager for United. It can hardly get any worse, and as a stopgap until, ideally, Pep, I don't see why it would be such a disaster.
You may well be right, but the dynamics of the boardroom in a football club usual entails everyone being an expert for 20 minutes. If Woodward proposes something and everyone agrees but it turns out to be crap you will find all those who agreed will ensure he takes the fall. That really is the problem in football, as with so many businesses - the good and the bad get their 20 minutes and it can have devastating consequences.
Like Moyes ? ? That era made me wise up alot.
Manchester united is a difficult job, considering the leagues current climate. Why are you so prepared to give it to someone with little to no experience ?
There will be uproar if Ryan Giggs is our next manager after the shit we've been served by the previous two managers.
The only reason I can see us appointing Giggs on an interim basis is if Pep Guardiola has said he's coming at the end of the season. Mourinho is available now, otherwise it's a bonkers decision.
I'm not, I don't want Giggs as a permanent option but if it's between Giggs now and Pep in the summer or Mourinho from now on, I would prefer the former. And regardless of what happens in the future, I would certainly rather have one of the club's biggest legends managing the team for the remainder of the season than an arrogant, clueless Dutchman. It literally can't get any worse.
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