We 'only' lost Ronaldo to Madrid as it was his dream apparently. We farced them big time for Heinze and got rid of Ruud and Beckham because of the off-the-pitch issues. It didn't matter if it was Real, Barca or Inter.
Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...
- Thread starter Someone
- Start date
- Status
It's not silly in itself. There are benefits to buying domestic players. These days it's often spun to imply we're backwards thinking, but the fact is that not having to acclimatize a young player (or any player for that matter) is generally an advantage. I think you'll find that most clubs operate with such a policy - meaning they prefer to shop locally if the quality is there. It's pragmatism more than nationalism, so to speak.
The problem is that for United domestic has meant overpriced. And Shaw is that - clearly. But he should be worth it - he looks like the sort of talent we should simply cough up in order to secure. We'd be kicking ourselves in a couple of years if he turns out to be the next Bale.
Awesome
It sells well, as well. Someone like Rooney is worth far more, commercially, than he could be if he was any other nationality and a decent amount of the money that gets made from that goes the club's way.
Nah man, not at all.
Folk keep goin on about how we won the league by 11 pts just 2 seasons ago, yet delude themselves that we should be equally the same the next season. We never played Champagne football that season. Van Persie was the key difference with his goals & notched up so many late-winners to boot.
Chelsea & City were in complete disarray & lost/drew games because of the many distractions that were goin on - managerial & player unrest etc. We had a clean bill of health & great team spirit & we took advantage of that. Both Chelsea & City then invested in the squad & got new managers in too last summer - everything was fresh & settled & it showed last season.
Moyes was a disaster last season no doubt, but i struggle to find anyone (including Fergie & ex-players) that believes our squad just needs 2 or 3 new additions.
I have confidence in Van Gaal of course & we'll wait & see what he does when he evaluates the squad for himself. I'd hazard a guess he'll want to bring in what he deems as upgrades, in many areas of the squad though.
As regards to your comment that "you don't really get how football works"
Aye, that too - makes business sense as well.
The league is alot stronger now though man. Do you not think those players are now being found out against week-in week-out tougher opposition - same as Cleverely, Smalling, Hernandez, Valencia, Nani etc.?
Evans is good enough. The problem is - he's either coming back from injury or he's carrying a knock!
You're reverting back into being bittuva bad ass dude. No need to be that way. Its only opinions at the end of the day.
The team & squad needs freshening up is my main point. Even Fergie said that numerous times since he retired & many believe thats the reason why he retired in the 1st place. He didnt have the energy for building a new team etc..
I mean spending big on domestic players is silly, despite of the actual price tag. balancing domestic players & foreigners in the team is good. Sorry i wasn't clear but whatever, you got a fair point.
Will be good when this saga is finally over and we officially sign him
More signings, I want more signings!!!
True. Trouble is we don't know to what extent. If certain players get a boost from playing under a new manager AND shake off their damn injury problems, we might do very well without bringing in a whole bunch. It's an uncertain situation at the moment, though. For the sake of argument, let's line up a first XI in a 4-2-3-1:
DDG
Rafael - Smalling - Evans - Shaw
Carrick - Herrera
Valencia - Mata - Januzaj
Van Persie
Question marks (of different kinds) over all the underlined players. That would be over half of 'em. We have excellent cover for some positions - not much to brag about for others.Rafael - Smalling - Evans - Shaw
Carrick - Herrera
Valencia - Mata - Januzaj
Van Persie
EDIT It wouldn't be over half of 'em, but it would be three out of the back four. And the fourth isn't signed yet. And Adnan is a kid. And, yeah - it's a potentially very good team, but hardly a certain league champion.
Last edited:
If we sign this guy tomorrow i honestly don't know what i'll do.
Really? Over Luke Shaw? I mean he has potential and he's decent/good but nothing to go crazy over?
2 pretty good signings in one day.
I told you guys to trust LVG/Wood and not to worry.
I told you guys to trust LVG/Wood and not to worry.
I agree.
I am really surprised at some people's reactions. This signing was expected all season long, nothing to get too excited about.
Then again, I am not one to get excited over transfers.
What the hell I as gone all day and we make two signings ? Shyt.
Can you go away again tomorrow and we might another signing.
Done!
Going crazy of Herrera and Shaw and the thought of more players coming in.
Don't know if this has been posted already but the Guardian are reporting he passed his medical and the deal will now be finalized.
Why are you spunking so much cash on this fella?
Good. Now to get a center back and another CM
There's so many question marks over our squad man & folk are just comfortable with the notion that Van Gaal will sort it out.
Herrera & Shaw are exceptional additions, but that should only be the start of a rebuilding process. The League is the only major trophy we can strive to win next season & we should go all out to get the personnel in to achieve that aim. Van Gaal has said the League is his goal next season, so i expect him to do all he can to fulfill that objective.
He wont do that with the squad we have in my opinion..
Very good signing at Left Back
The club is spending close to £30 million on a teenager who plays in a position we lack in currently. I applaud our club for showing serious intent in the market and i expect more signings to follow. I also expect one of the following players to be at United come the start of the season, Vidal, Sanchez, Robben.
The club is spending close to £30 million on a teenager who plays in a position we lack in currently. I applaud our club for showing serious intent in the market and i expect more signings to follow. I also expect one of the following players to be at United come the start of the season, Vidal, Sanchez, Robben.
It's not exactly the most exciting signing but it's a position that's needed sorting for a few years now. Defensively Shaw is above most fullbacks in the game his attacking game needs to improve but that will gradually get better and if all goes well he will be our LB for over a decade.
We're just payin what it takes man (does my head in to be honest) & he seems to fit the profile of wanting to play for the club too. Its always a risk payin that sort of dosh for a young player, but we're building for the future & Shaw can have an even bigger impact than Evra had - for the next 10+ years or more too, if we're lucky..
Its a risk worth takin. He's already one of the best LB's in Europe & we dodged a bullet not gettin Baines - who's 10 years older & had a £20m+ price-tag last summer. Whats he worth now after the poor-showin in WC though?!
£10m extra (a year on) for a guy 10yrs his junior & better, is great long-term business by United!
That's hard to see. Signing Herrera and Shaw alone is 58M and any of the players you mentioned will be between 30-45M obviously they'll be worth it but we still need to sign a central defender.
Gosh, 34 Million? For an 18 year old with 1 - 2 BPL seasons only? I sure hope it's not that expensive....
Hopefully it'll be one of those structured deals with lots of clauses and instalments. Not blind money up front.
And I hope rumors of his wages are greatly exaggerated as well. 100K per week?
I'm all for getting him, but I just hope we don't end up paying too much for him.
Hopefully it'll be one of those structured deals with lots of clauses and instalments. Not blind money up front.
And I hope rumors of his wages are greatly exaggerated as well. 100K per week?
I'm all for getting him, but I just hope we don't end up paying too much for him.
The price should not matter. Either Shaw improves our squad or not. That is all that should matter. They do not give trophies to the side that makes the most value signings.
Exactly this. We still need a centreback, defensive midfielder and ideally a quality winger if we're to get anywhere close to the title next season.
Watching Suarez banned for 4 months :-)
Two transfers > Suraez banned (though it brought a smile it didn't give me wood)
I think you are going over board as always. Its just a very few stupid fans saying that. 90 % are happy.
Baines has been and is currently the best left back in the league. World Cup was over 3 games I wouldn't let it cloud your judgement to much. Dodge a bullet is a bit strong he would have been an improvement. Hopefully Shaw goes and becomes a great left back as he's a better age.
I think we are fecked then. Come on only 2-3 of these players need to leave. Rest are either good squad players or still developing.
For 10-12 years of a quality left back.
"30m for a kid?? Boooo!"
"Chelsea bought Shaw for 30m?? Glazers out!! Booo ! "
It's like some of the people on here are in perpetual PMS. Mood swinging more than pregnant cowgirl.
"Chelsea bought Shaw for 30m?? Glazers out!! Booo ! "
It's like some of the people on here are in perpetual PMS. Mood swinging more than pregnant cowgirl.
This.
- Status