[McLvnsMuse]

He’ll retire with fewer appearances for United than injury prone Martial.

Martial joined years after him and has already left the club.

Talented but very disappointing. I don’t count him in the squad.

 

[Red00012]

If someone offered 10 million for him now you'd snap their hand off.

There is no club who will spend £10 million on an injury prone player like Shaw

 

[Sandikan]

There is no club who will spend £10 million on an injury prone player like Shaw

United will probably pay it to get him off the books. But only in 2-3 years.

 

[Sandikan]

I think he's finished at United and Amorim is looking for a long term solution at left back. He's not someone he can rely on for an entire season. Whoever's genius idea to give an injury plagued player a four year contract in 2023 need their head examined. He needs to go as well along with many others. An absolute passenger most of the time.

That's Dorgu isn't it? And left wing back, not left back.

On paper, left of the 3 centre backs is the ideal position for Shaw. Whether we'll ever be able to see it is quite another question.
Probably a job share between him and Martinez, a player some would argue isn't "injury prone" as such, but is just unlucky to have had 3 or 4 major injuries in his short time here.

 

[Pexbo]

He’ll retire with fewer appearances for United than injury prone Martial.

Martial joined years after him and has already left the club.

Talented but very disappointing. I don’t count him in the squad.

He signed one year after Shaw. Shaw suffered a double fracture of his leg while playing for us which kept him out of action for a year and has clearly had a lasting detrimental effect on his fitness. It’s hardly a huge surprise?

 

[Godfather]

Where is he these days?

 

[lex talionis]

Since there is no classic LB in Amorim's system, i think he becomes either a left sided CB or LWB who can interchangably swap out with Dorgo or any of the CBs who ordinarily play on the left - we've seen Yoro, Heaven, and Martinez all play there, and lets not forget Licha is out until 2026. So plenty of opportunities to use Shaw situationally in any number of left side roles.

Exactly. I’m only suggesting that even though could have been a useful regular starting LCB for us, at this point his future playing time is likely more as a squad man than automatic starter.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Where is he these days?

Died on the way back to his home planet

 

[Plant0x84]

Christ the tone of this thread sucks. There are some proper callous people on this forum. All the worse bits of the Phil Jones thread replayed over again, just because a player has been injured.
Clearly we have learned nothing from Phil’s interview where he spoke about the mental trauma he suffered, or from Luke Chadwick talking about the name calling and personal insults he had to endure. You should be ashamed.

Will be interesting to see how Amorim uses Shaw when he’s back in the fold. His days of being a first 11 player might be over but I can see him doing a job as cover for both LWB and LCB. Hopefully he can put together a decent injury free run.

 

[Doracle]

At least he's not on an absurd salary. 150k per week is pocket change for us in the grand scheme of things.

I'd say he's 2nd/3rd choice for LWB and 3rd choice for LCB, so even when he's fit he's not gonna get many minutes now. Perhaps that could be a motivation for him to leave earlier?

If he was fully fit he would obviously be first choice at LWB and probably also at LCB as his mobility makes him a much stronger option in that position than Martinez.

However, the reality is that he’s very unlikely to regain full fitness for a prolonged period of time. His injury issues have been gradually getting worse and that’s unlikely to change now. We have to assume he won’t be fit again and plan without him. If he happens to return to fitness that will be an excellent bonus.

 

[giggs-beckham]

Died on the way back to his home planet

Like Poochie

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Will he ever be fit again?

 

[FerociousCorgis]

Christ the tone of this thread sucks. There are some proper callous people on this forum. All the worse bits of the Phil Jones thread replayed over again, just because a player has been injured.
Clearly we have learned nothing from Phil’s interview where he spoke about the mental trauma he suffered, or from Luke Chadwick talking about the name calling and personal insults he had to endure. You should be ashamed.

Will be interesting to see how Amorim uses Shaw when he’s back in the fold. His days of being a first 11 player might be over but I can see him doing a job as cover for both LWB and LCB. Hopefully he can put together a decent injury free run.

I don't know. It wasn't a good look when Shaw sat his injured ass around then magically pushed thru to play for England then back to nothing for the team that actually pays him. Think for a lot of folks this was the last straw, myself included

 

[tentan]

Where is he these days?

I almost keep forgetting his exists

 

[Zumbi]

I don't know. It wasn't a good look when Shaw sat his injured ass around then magically pushed thru to play for England then back to nothing for the team that actually pays him. Think for a lot of folks this was the last straw, myself included

You mean when he came back from injury, played a bit, and then got injured again? That’s not magic. It’s exactly the same thing that’s been happening with him at Utd for years and years. He’s injury prone. That’s what happens to injury prone players.

Or else, what are you actually trying to say here? That he pretends to be injured for Utd but he’s actually fine?

 

[Toshey]

You mean when he came back from injury, played a bit, and then got injured again? That’s not magic. It’s exactly the same thing that’s been happening with him at Utd for years and years. He’s injury prone. That’s what happens to injury prone players.

Or else, what are you actually trying to say here? That he pretends to be injured for Utd but he’s actually fine?

He is trying to say that he rushed his recovery in order to play for England and fecked himself up in the process.

 

[JanK]

Christ the tone of this thread sucks. There are some proper callous people on this forum. All the worse bits of the Phil Jones thread replayed over again, just because a player has been injured.
Clearly we have learned nothing from Phil’s interview where he spoke about the mental trauma he suffered, or from Luke Chadwick talking about the name calling and personal insults he had to endure. You should be ashamed.

Will be interesting to see how Amorim uses Shaw when he’s back in the fold. His days of being a first 11 player might be over but I can see him doing a job as cover for both LWB and LCB. Hopefully he can put together a decent injury free run.

I think the issue lies that his injuries seem suspicious combined with his attitude. He is like a guy at work who stinks around, doesn't do a thing but his contract gives huge benefits to him. And it is irritating.

His fitness, his sudden recovery when England has a tournament and issues with Mourinho/coaches doesn't make him a fan favourite tbh.

 

[vanderpants]

Where is he these days?

He reported back to Carrington last week

 

[buckooo1978]

He reported back to Carrington last week

for treatment?
in training?

 

[golden_blunder]

I think the issue lies that his injuries seem suspicious combined with his attitude. He is like a guy at work who stinks around, doesn't do a thing but his contract gives huge benefits to him. And it is irritating.

His fitness, his sudden recovery when England has a tournament and issues with Mourinho/coaches doesn't make him a fan favourite tbh.

It’s not suspicious, it’s the consequences of having a really bad injury and becoming more susceptible to injuries since. I said last summer that the same thing will now happen Martinez. Players aren’t robots.

I suspect the issues with Mourinho were driven by the fact he chose United over Chelsea to transfer to.

 

[Red00012]

He’s back in grass training apparently so he might not be far off a return hopefully

 

[SER19]

He’s back in grass training apparently so he might not be far off a return hopefully

Hes lost his place now. Probably first time in his United career he isn't just going straight back in. A useful and versatile player and one i like, but simply too injury prone

 

[Red00012]

Hes lost his place now. Probably first time in his United career he isn't just going straight back in. A useful and versatile player and one i like, but simply too injury prone

If fit and that’s a big if , he’ll slot in at LCB I think ahead of Heaven

 

[McLvnsMuse]

He signed one year after Shaw. Shaw suffered a double fracture of his leg while playing for us which kept him out of action for a year and has clearly had a lasting detrimental effect on his fitness. It’s hardly a huge surprise?

If it’s hardly a surprise then that makes the contract renewal even more silly.

If it’s been so obvious for so long then why haven’t we signed a serious contender for starting LB in almost 10 yrs (before Dorgu).

I’m not pointing fingers at Shaw. I’m simply pointing out the folly of planning around an unreliable defender for so long.

Reliability is as much a priority for defenders as is skill. Settled defenses are the foundation for any seasons ambitions

 

[pcaming]

He's just a bonus at this point.

Can't get rid and can't count on him as part of the squad. His only use is if he can be fit at the same time we have an injury issue and need a fill in.

 

[ItDoesntEvenMata]

He’ll retire with fewer appearances for United than injury prone Martial.

Martial joined years after him and has already left the club.

Talented but very disappointing. I don’t count him in the squad.

Martial joined one year after him and played about 30 games more.

Shaw had a serious potentially career ending injury and never seemed to get past it. Martial was just constantly niggling and dropping out. Completely different

 

[Zumbi]

He is trying to say that he rushed his recovery in order to play for England and fecked himself up in the process.

Which would be quite the claim considering it was actually the other way around - Shaw had a set back when trying to rush back for Utd’s cup final before the Euros.

 

[elmo]

If it’s hardly a surprise then that makes the contract renewal even more silly.

If it’s been so obvious for so long then why haven’t we signed a serious contender for starting LB in almost 10 yrs (before Dorgu).

I’m not pointing fingers at Shaw. I’m simply pointing out the folly of planning around an unreliable defender for so long.

Reliability is as much a priority for defenders as is skill. Settled defenses are the foundation for any seasons ambitions

We thought we did. They just didn’t make the grade.

 

[Stadjer]

Martial joined one year after him and played about 30 games more.

Shaw had a serious potentially career ending injury and never seemed to get past it. Martial was just constantly niggling and dropping out. Completely different

Was that really the case with Martial? Martial only became a injury prone broken player after Ole, allegedly, kept playing Martial when he already was injured. I dont think he was injured often during the LVG season and Mourinho seasons? Same as with Shaw, one major injury and after that the player was never really able to stay fit.

Only issue with Shaw is that he didnt play much before he picked up his major injury so we cant really say if he was injured often or not before that injury. He had one 18 day ankle injury during his Southampton time so i dont think that is too bad.

 

[bgoodall]

Need to make sure we take out insurance on players for these special cases. Seems easier to pay a deductible instead of wages for anything long term.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Need to make sure we take out insurance on players for these special cases. Seems easier to pay a deductible instead of wages for anything long term.

Don’t think you understand how insurance works.

 

[BuzzKillington]

We can’t sell him due to his injury issues, so anybody suggesting we should needs to be realistic.

When he’s fit he’ll play, as he’s a better player than anything we currently have on the left side, Dorgu included. The only way he’s losing his place is if he’s injured or when his pace has gone, at which point he becomes backup LCB until his contract ends.

 

[buckooo1978]

Yeah the mission with Shaw will be to get him to a point where he can play in 20 games a season for us.

We arent selling him. He's 2 years left. We need to make him useful as his ability is clear.

Between him, Martinez and Heaven you've got decent depth there at LCB in the short term.

Don't see any team offering us a fee given his injury record

 

[Zumbi]

I think the issue lies that his injuries seem suspicious combined with his attitude. He is like a guy at work who stinks around, doesn't do a thing but his contract gives huge benefits to him. And it is irritating.

His fitness, his sudden recovery when England has a tournament and issues with Mourinho/coaches doesn't make him a fan favourite tbh.

How is a notoriously injury prone player getting lots of injuries suspicious?

And his recovery for the Euros was the opposite of sudden - he’d already been out for months, he had a set back trying to rush back for the FA Cup final, and then missed more than half of our matches at the Euros.

 

[DJ_21]

Yeah the mission with Shaw will be to get him to a point where he can play in 20 games a season for us.

We arent selling him. He's 2 years left. We need to make him useful as his ability is clear.

Between him, Martinez and Heaven you've got decent depth there at LCB in the short term.

Don't see any team offering us a fee given his injury record

Impossible task. I mean we’re talking about a guy that gets injured straight after coming back from injury without making a match day squad.

 

[quadrant]

We can’t sell him due to his injury issues, so anybody suggesting we should needs to be realistic.

When he’s fit he’ll play, as he’s a better player than anything we currently have on the left side, Dorgu included. The only way he’s losing his place is if he’s injured or when his pace has gone, at which point he becomes backup LCB until his contract ends.

I don't for one second think that Shaw has the physical ability to fulfil a true wingback role any more, it requires large amounts of both pace and stamina. He has technical ability on the ball, but not the required physicality.

 

[Red71]

Yeah the mission with Shaw will be to get him to a point where he can play in 20 games a season for us.

We arent selling him. He's 2 years left. We need to make him useful as his ability is clear.

Between him, Martinez and Heaven you've got decent depth there at LCB in the short term.

Don't see any team offering us a fee given his injury record

I think that’s right…the depth on his side of defence could be the key to getting more out of him towards the back end of his contract too. If we can take our time now to iron out these niggling injuries and help strengthen his body for the rigors of the PL, the fact that we don’t have to flog him to death twice a week could really make all the difference to Shaw, United and prolonging his career…

 

[DJ_21]

Mad that Bruno matches the same number of appearances in 1 more game. Shaw was signed 2014 Bruno in 2020

 

[Sandikan]

Still has 2 years on his deal, turns 30 in July.

Just hope that if he does have a good return and puts a decent 3-6months in next season we don't make the constant mistake of the past and throw in a huge long term deal again.

 

[Oldyella]

Mad that Bruno matches the same number of appearances in 1 more game. Shaw was signed 2014 Bruno in 2020

Bruno really is a machine.

Shaw? It is what it is, dont see point in being angry with players who are constantly injured. Must be incredibly tough for them, despite all the comments here about giving wages back etc..

Hopefully he can come back and give us 10-15 games a season for next couple of years as LCB while Yoro and Heaven bed in.