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Is this true? If it is it's a bit of a joke from Woodward again. Look I'm delighted with the start Shaw has made and has been good improvements but he's in noway worth giving that type of money too. Don't know why we give these insane wages out to players who could potentially become deadwood like Rojo, Darmain, Mata etc.

 
Wayne's World said:
Is this true? If it is it's a bit of a joke from Woodward again. Look I'm delighted with the start Shaw has made and has been good improvements but he's in noway worth giving that type of money too. Don't know why we give these insane wages out to players who could potentially become deadwood like Rojo, Darmain, Mata etc.

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Seen various figures banded about, from £150k to £195k a.k.a. we have no idea.
 
Pleased for him, been wanting him to prove himself this season and he's done just that.

Any contract a footballer signs comes with risks that it doesn't pay off (any contract, anyone signs has that risk tbf) so from that that perspective, I'm not sure why so many people have so many concerns - this is what comes with any signing/renewal

If we let it get to January, then he could've signed a pre-contract with anybody, and every LB we attempted to sign would've come with an extra fee on top because everyone would know that we are in desperate need of a LB.

Don't really care about the money, and don't really know why so many people care about the money either, he's a first choice player for Man United, who will probably start his peak during the duration of this contract - 150k (if accurate) seems about right.
190k is probably if he hits all performance bonuses every single week, which is obviously unattainable.
 
I say great deal!
195k (I do not think that is correct btw) might sound mental, but it really is not considering the state European football is in today.
The last two seasons has seen the transfer market explode/bubbled up/gone crazy/just transferring the worth of different TV-deals to the clubs (you choose whatever rocks your boat, its a fact though).
Deals for players like Dembele or Coutinho would always have a backlash (if you want to see it like that)/effect on players wages. The transfer market and the wages of the players are functionally integrated. That is just economic theory. We will see the wages of players increase a lot next summer. Players like Eriksen, Hazard, De Gea and their agents will see to that.
When players are deemed to be worth 100m plus on the transfer market and they can essentially see out his contract and pocket that money for themselves; it has to and will affect the wages of the players in question. And/or burst the transfer market bubble. Or something inbetween.
195k sounds and is crazy but will be the new now very soon if it is not already.
Its from this perspective we need to view Shaws deal: If its 195k a week we accept a 50m cost over 5 years, but also get a 50m asset at the same time as he signs.
Its also kinda funny that people are so caught up on the wages.
I wonder how many people would have been crazy upset if we signed Clone Luke Shaw from Clone City and paid a transfer fee of 25m and put him on 95k a week?
I think poor Ed would be hailed as the king of the transfer market if we did. Especially in todays market.
But the cost for the club is really the same over five years.
Thats why its a non-brainer to sign Shaw up even if it sounds a lot. He is actually worth more and should switch agent...))
 
vangagal said:
He's not worth that much yet. Now imagine how much Pogba would want for his new contract? 900k?
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If there are clubs out there prepared to pay up towards 200m for Pogba in transfer fee, yeah probably.
 
195k has to be bullshit, apparently makes him the 10th highest paid player in the league. Not even Woodward is that clueless.
 
Wayne's World said:
Is this true? If it is it's a bit of a joke from Woodward again. Look I'm delighted with the start Shaw has made and has been good improvements but he's in noway worth giving that type of money too. Don't know why we give these insane wages out to players who could potentially become deadwood like Rojo, Darmain, Mata etc.

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Probably because we lost all power letting his contract run down. If we didnt get him to sign, someone would get an England international home based player for free and be more likely to pay a high wage ala Sanchez. Plus Lingard's contract was around the same and Shaw is a more likely starter
 
Raw said:
195k has to be bullshit, apparently makes him the 10th highest paid player in the league. Not even Woodward is that clueless.
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What is the alternative? Do you think we will be able to buy someone better for 25m and make him accept 95k a week? Propose a name please.
It would actually be a worse deal, because of cashflow issues (having to pay 25 m upfront).
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The cost for the club is exactly the same (without having done the exact math)
 
I dont think he has earnt that figure..he has only had a handful of decent games in his time so far at United

Still plenty to prove for me

But with his contract up at the end of the season...player power and all that
 
Johan07 said:
What is the alternative? Do you think we will be able to buy someone better for 25m and make him accept 95k a week? Propose a name please.
It would actually be a worse deal, because of cashflow issues (having to pay 25 m upfront).
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The cost for the club is exactly the same (without having done the exact math)
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Don't get me wrong I really want him to stay, I just think that rumoured 195k a week deal is media bullshit.
 
Raw said:
Don't get me wrong I really want him to stay, I just think that rumoured 195k a week deal is media bullshit.
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I do too. I dont think its media BS though. We are going to see players wages adapt to the abstract transfer values of said players. The Sanchez deal was an excellent first example of this. It will be many more next summer and clubs will need to adapt their wage structures.
Strangely enough this is probably a good thing for United, because we have the revenue to cope with it. Clubs like Spurs will struggle though. Clubs like Barca also, cause they have already fecked themselves wage budget/revenue percentage. Those clubs will not be able to cope with the increase in players wages that will be the effect of the same clubs (now I am talking about Barca, PSG and City) blowing the transfer market out of proportion. It was very shortsighted by these clubs tbh....
 
£50m over the 5 year duration of the contract, which is good business considering the cost of his replacement plus their salary, and that fact he’s a circa £40m asset that could be sold at any point during those 5 years.

Losing him got free, at a point where he’s finally found his form and confidence, would have been catastrophic.
 
limerickcitykid said:
How is it not media BS when they've just pulled a number out of their ass?

Shaw has already called out the media for massively inflating his wages on his last contract.
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Because it is perfectly logical. Its basic economics. You need to look at the cost of an alternative investment.
 
Johan07 said:
Because it is perfectly logical. Its basic economics. You need to look at the cost of an alternative investment.
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The cost of a replacement is completely irrelevant to the fact the media have pulled 195k out of their ass as they always do. There is nothing logical about pulling random numbers out of your ass and claiming it as fact. As proven by Luke Shaw himself saying they made up his salary last time.
 
limerickcitykid said:
The cost of a replacement is completely irrelevant to the fact the media have pulled 195k out of their ass as they always do. There is nothing logical about pulling random numbers out of your ass and claiming it as fact. As proven by Luke Shaw himself saying they made up his salary last time.
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last time they said his week salary was 160 k per week
it turned out to be 70 k
So no, I wont believe them
 
limerickcitykid said:
The cost of a replacement is completely irrelevant to the fact the media have pulled 195k out of their ass as they always do. There is nothing logical about pulling random numbers out of your ass and claiming it as fact. As proven by Luke Shaw himself saying they made up his salary last time.
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They are obviously being kept informed by sources close to the player, or even other sources (agents) with players in similar situations. Its naive to think that the roundabout numbers for a player as Shaw is not being discussed by the relevant agent players on the market.
And the number is completely fair in todays market since he does not come with a transfer fee. Its the total cost for the club for him or a similar player that is relevant.
And why so focused on the wages? Would you be happier if we put Shaw on 95 k and gave him an undisclosed signon fee of 25m? It would not be better for the club, I tell you that, since we would have to pay that signup fee at once.
Im pretty sure that a remuneration package for Shaw between 40-50m has been discussed and broken down in wages it will be around that number.
 
Giggsyking said:
last time they said his week salary was 160 k per week
it turned out to be 70 k
So no, I wont believe them
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Exactly, they lied about him being on over 100k a week since he signed.

The Mirror is the same paper that said Mourinho would be sacked regardless of the result against Newcastle - why anybody believes the media at this point is just beyond me.
 
Giggsyking said:
last time they said his week salary was 160 k per week
it turned out to be 70 k
So no, I wont believe them
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How do you know that he didnt receive a big signon-fee or even large, large pension payments as part of his remuneration package? The wages in themselves are far from the only thing to take into account nowadays.
 
Johan07 said:
How do you know that he didnt receive a big signon-fee or even large, large pension payments as part of his remuneration package? The wages in themselves are far from the only thing to take into account nowadays.
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I dont, I just dont trust the press.
 
The one positive about the reported size of his contract is it’s a statement that soling as he’s got, there will be none of this Ashley Young malarkey.
 
Not worried about the contract. If we'd bough Sandro, he'd costed £50m+ £185-200k in wages anyway. If Shaw keeps us his form, we're actually done quite well.
 
vangagal said:
So you'd think we will sell him next summer? Maybe not this year but most likely in next season becuase that would be his 4th season here.
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Can't believe this is his 3rd season here. I am still waiting for him to settle in. Food for thought, but we are a shit team at the moment.
 
Again we are doing stupid things like we did with Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Darmian....
190k. This is mental for a player who had only two (short ) good runs of games in 4 years here. And who is injury prone. He should get new contract but 100k would be max. Where is the logic here? Logic says that you give a player salary which is in range what he can get elsewhere. I don't see club who would offer him more 100k.
 
Complete joke, what happens if he slips back into the lazy unprofessional player he's been over the last few years now he has his contract.

Didn't deserve a pay rise.
 
Why the feck do you all instantly believe the Mirror and the Mail when it comes to player salaries?
 
How hilarious would it be if Shaw decided to be really, really happy about his pay rise and the way the club has looked after him, and make a mental commitment to giving his all every time he steps on the pitch as it's the only way he can possibly justify the investment in him.

Hilarious.
 
Rozay said:
Indeed, he was outstanding and far and away our best player last time he played at Stamford Bridge.
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I’m not sure if you’re pulling my leg or not, since I don’t remember him in that game. Even though he’s only had one outstanding game so far this season he brings a threat with his overlapping, pace and power every game which simply isn’t there with Young. I think we’re going to see a lot more from whomever starts in front of him (be it Martial, Rashford or Sanchez). A lot of that will be because of him.
 
villain said:
Pleased for him, been wanting him to prove himself this season and he's done just that.

Any contract a footballer signs comes with risks that it doesn't pay off (any contract, anyone signs has that risk tbf) so from that that perspective, I'm not sure why so many people have so many concerns - this is what comes with any signing/renewal

If we let it get to January, then he could've signed a pre-contract with anybody, and every LB we attempted to sign would've come with an extra fee on top because everyone would know that we are in desperate need of a LB.

Don't really care about the money, and don't really know why so many people care about the money either, he's a first choice player for Man United, who will probably start his peak during the duration of this contract - 150k (if accurate) seems about right.
190k is probably if he hits all performance bonuses every single week, which is obviously unattainable.
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Good post. That's where I assumed this talk of £190k came from. And if he's earning that then we'll be getting Shaw at his best which will be worth £190k.
 
Handré1990 said:
I’m not sure if you’re pulling my leg or not, since I don’t remember him in that game. Even though he’s only had one outstanding game so far this season he brings a threat with his overlapping, pace and power every game which simply isn’t there with Young. I think we’re going to see a lot more from whomever starts in front of him (be it Martial, Rashford or Sanchez). A lot of that will be because of him.
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Nah, he was great. We lost 1-0 to a Hazard goal though.
 
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