Anybody else see the resemblance?
Good shout, can see him forming a bit of a bond with Fred.
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Good shout, can see him forming a bit of a bond with Fred.
We need 2 LBs and Shaw has the talent to be one. Young can cover both sides since we really have no idea if Dalot is ready to play for us at RB next year:
LB-Shaw-Young
Valencia-Young-Dalot
looks about right to me. 5 guys for 2 spots with one injury risk in Shaw and one raw youngster in Dalot.
Then in 2019, we sign an RB and let the oldsters go and it's:
2018LB-Shaw
2019RB-Dalot
which looks right to me. Not difficult to get a competent 5th fullback from youth or a clever cheap signing or even just retain Valencia or Young for one final year, or maybe Fosu-Mensah or Tuanzebe are the defensive option and we sign a real winger who can cover there when we need attacking, like if we sign Perisic or another traditional winger rather than a wide forward.
LB-Shaw-Young
Valencia-Young-Dalot
looks about right to me. 5 guys for 2 spots with one injury risk in Shaw and one raw youngster in Dalot.
Then in 2019, we sign an RB and let the oldsters go and it's:
2018LB-Shaw
2019RB-Dalot
which looks right to me. Not difficult to get a competent 5th fullback from youth or a clever cheap signing or even just retain Valencia or Young for one final year, or maybe Fosu-Mensah or Tuanzebe are the defensive option and we sign a real winger who can cover there when we need attacking, like if we sign Perisic or another traditional winger rather than a wide forward.
Jose will praise him until Young is ready to return.
Yep. Did the same thing last season.
Honestly think it'll be Shaw's year.
He was absolutely fine in the period over christmas when Young got injured, didn't put a foot wrong but Jose dumped him as soon as Young was fit again.
He's clearly in good shape right now, I hope he can get some early confidence and get an assist or even a goal in pre season.
With him being fitter i'm sure he will be able to keep bursting down the wing like he does, we really need his speed with the ball as it helps our transitions massively.
Touch wood it seem he's over his leg issues now, so this could be the start for him to turn things around, I have faith.
He was absolutely fine in the period over christmas when Young got injured, didn't put a foot wrong but Jose dumped him as soon as Young was fit again.
He's clearly in good shape right now, I hope he can get some early confidence and get an assist or even a goal in pre season.
With him being fitter i'm sure he will be able to keep bursting down the wing like he does, we really need his speed with the ball as it helps our transitions massively.
Touch wood it seem he's over his leg issues now, so this could be the start for him to turn things around, I have faith.
I wasn’t happy with this either. All people ask is a fair chance to earn your place, and when that isn’t afforded to you, it looks personal/favouritism. Shaw went from ‘the best LB in the league’ to no look-in at all as soon as Young was back. This is the sort of thing that always attracts the criticism of Jose Not developing players.
Yep I thought that was really insulting too, no wonder Shaw has no motivation / desire to try his best for Mourinho.
He was there for Mourinho when he needed him and played 4/5 games in the space of 15-20 days? he proved he was fit and he looked good IMO.
That's the annoying thing with Mourinho, has 1 set of rules for players he likes, 1 set for the others.
If I remember correctly, Shaw a couple of years ago, maybe last season or the year before, came top of these tests as well. Can we really read into it all?
I think majority of United fans would love Shaw to become our number 1 left-back and put in consistent high-level performances rather than signing another left-back for 40-50 odd million.
But in order to do that he needs to stay fit, he needs to be able to play in around 30 Premier League games per season now! His devastating injury was a few years ago , so he really needs to get over that. I have noticed when he does play, he still bombs forward on occasions but sometimes it appears he is hesitant to really go for it, maybe that injury is still stuck in his mind.
His crossing needs to improve too (same with 99% of our players in fact). The raw talent is there, if he can start to play regularly, then imagine a fully fit Shaw bombing down the left-wing, beating opponents for fun and delivering deadly crosses for Lukaku
Crazy that he only just turned 23 last week! He can still play for us at a high level, providing he turns turns things around, for a decade! This season will definitely be his last chance to prove himself, otherwise he will be shown the door and as much as I would be disappointed, it would be the right call and another left-back would be needed.
I think majority of United fans would love Shaw to become our number 1 left-back and put in consistent high-level performances rather than signing another left-back for 40-50 odd million.
But in order to do that he needs to stay fit, he needs to be able to play in around 30 Premier League games per season now! His devastating injury was a few years ago , so he really needs to get over that. I have noticed when he does play, he still bombs forward on occasions but sometimes it appears he is hesitant to really go for it, maybe that injury is still stuck in his mind.
His crossing needs to improve too (same with 99% of our players in fact). The raw talent is there, if he can start to play regularly, then imagine a fully fit Shaw bombing down the left-wing, beating opponents for fun and delivering deadly crosses for Lukaku
Crazy that he only just turned 23 last week! He can still play for us at a high level, providing he turns turns things around, for a decade! This season will definitely be his last chance to prove himself, otherwise he will be shown the door and as much as I would be disappointed, it would be the right call and another left-back would be needed.
Yes, it shows that if he didn’t get his leg broken in the line of duty he looked on course for a good season.If I remember correctly, Shaw a couple of years ago, maybe last season or the year before, came top of these tests as well. Can we really read into it all?
I think majority of United fans would love Shaw to become our number 1 left-back and put in consistent high-level performances rather than signing another left-back for 40-50 odd million.
But in order to do that he needs to stay fit, he needs to be able to play in around 30 Premier League games per season now! His devastating injury was a few years ago , so he really needs to get over that. I have noticed when he does play, he still bombs forward on occasions but sometimes it appears he is hesitant to really go for it, maybe that injury is still stuck in his mind.
His crossing needs to improve too (same with 99% of our players in fact). The raw talent is there, if he can start to play regularly, then imagine a fully fit Shaw bombing down the left-wing, beating opponents for fun and delivering deadly crosses for Lukaku
Crazy that he only just turned 23 last week! He can still play for us at a high level, providing he turns turns things around, for a decade! This season will definitely be his last chance to prove himself, otherwise he will be shown the door and as much as I would be disappointed, it would be the right call and another left-back would be needed.
I was watching (or rewatching) one of those interviews Lingard did a few months back and noticed him mentioning Shaw as definitely the 'most vain' in the squad. Perhaps not a dreadful crime but I think people like that are certainly capable of downing tools (and getting too easily discouraged) if obstacles get in their way. Whether that's injuries, fitness or a manager who wants more from you without necessarily patting you on the back each time you do something good.
I like Shaw's determination and there's no denying he is/was a fantastic talent. But I don't agree with a lot of you guys in here, who I think are being a bit revisionist about last season - particularly that period when he did get a sustained few games filling in for Young. Shaw was all over the place defensively, constantly caught looking over his shoulder, not tracking wingers or runners, taking too many touches and providing some generally woeful crosses.
Can we move on from fat jokes here on Caf?
Body shaming is not fun at all. He proven to us he got back to shape and you lot still complaining or joking about him being fat.
Let's get behind him for his make or break season. Good luck Shaw, all the best.
Body shaming is not fun at all. He proven to us he got back to shape and you lot still complaining or joking about him being fat.
Let's get behind him for his make or break season. Good luck Shaw, all the best.
It’s obvious to say, but he’s in the last chance saloon. I think we all want him to make it, and with Young having such a long run in the WC, he’s got the chance. Just hope he grasps it and pushes on. At only 23 he could solve a big problem for a number of years.
As a bonus we could play Young at RB and finally consign Valencia to the bench.
As a bonus we could play Young at RB and finally consign Valencia to the bench.
Oh Jesus Christ.
Are you okay? Seeing ghosts while typing?
Can't blame him for a lack of trying. I can see him play well in the first few matches of the season where Young is still missing and hopefully Mourinho will keep playing him if that's the case.
If he starts anything like he did that season of the leg break then Ashley you would think would have a hard time shifting him, unfortunately I kinda think he’ll play well but Ashley will be parachuted straight back in over the top of him. Kinda feel like he has to do something incredible to change Jose’s mind.
He’s looking in great shape, seems to be fit and ready to make that LB spot his own. I am very confident he will make it at United, only 23 and I feel when we signed him he was very star struck and probably didn’t feel he belonged or was good enough for a massive club like United, but I feel he now believes he does belong and wants to show Mourinho he is one of the best LB’s in the PL, which he is.
If he stays fit and healthy, look out!!!!
If he stays fit and healthy, look out!!!!
Full marks for this
I really want him to make the spot his own. He's English, already on the books too so wouldn't have to invest again for a while and there's talent there. I'm not sure I trust it will happen for him though. I know a lot like to blame Jose but it's probably more on Shaw. It would be a lovely surprise if he makes that spot is home and regains some of the form we saw a few years back.
Crazy to think he was flying high and only 20 years old when Moreno broke his leg. Hopefully Dalot shows that kind of promise next year but obviously pans out better than Shaw has to date.
Crazy to think he was flying high and only 20 years old when Moreno broke his leg. Hopefully Dalot shows that kind of promise next year but obviously pans out better than Shaw has to date.
Shaw and Dalot on either side has huge potential if it all falls into place.
Yeah, assuming we don't sign a left-back this summer it would be lovely if this time next year we are talking about Shaw in glowing terms, Dalot has won his place in the regular line-up and Bailly has shaken his injury problems. That with De Gea's new long-term contract would set up the defense for years to come.
Shaw and Young were rehabbing last pre season
Shaw is always rehabbing and getting back into shape. Every single pre-season.
Then once the season starts and transfer window closes, he hits KFC and McD's...HARD!!!
4 years and he's had about 10 good games. For me, this is the worst transfer in our history. The most expensive LB in the World (at the time of signing) and he'll probably go on a free next Summer, having played a handful of good games for us.
To think that Evra left because of Moyes (bad management) and Shaw (who was incoming).
And yet you seem to enjoy it so much...
My penis growing an extra 6" has huge potential if it happens.
But we both know that none of the above is going to happen anytime soon.
To think that Dalot - a teenager who has played only 6 league games for Porto - will usurp Valencia anytime soon is illogical and demonstrates a fundamental lack of football knowledge (on several levels).
Then we add Shaw into the equation, I have to question whether or not people on this forum actually watch our games and if they know that Shaw has been crap for 4 years, but for a few games, here and there.
I don't.
I want us to cut our losses and move on.
We desperately need a proper LB. We can't keep using A.Young (who is great at attacking, but useless at defending).
What losses? I doubt we're paying him more than a drop in a bucket compared to our overall wage bill and compared to what we'd have to offer a quality replacement in today's market. Why not just hang onto him and see? If Jose feels he desperately needs someone better there's no reason he couldn't buy and keep Shaw too.
Computer games have bred lazy football fans. They always want to sell what we have and buy better, and if that 'better' doesn't immediately pay off then sell him too and buy again, again and again and again until you win the lottery and land an amazing player who immediately works out and doesn't have a dip in form for a few seasons. Then repeat for every position in the squad.
Also, the amount the word 'desperately' is used on this forum at the moment, for crying out loud. We came second in the league, thanks to a freakishly good season from City, and with a number of our key players still not quite hitting their full potential. We don't 'desperately' need anything.
No we don't. You don't believe in Shaw and want us to replace him. We get it. Now atleast let some of us believe in him. Your negativity isn't helping at all.
The last four United managers have chosen young and Valencia over everyone else at the club. That is not going to change for two untested individuals.
You sound like a complete moron, and that's putting it nicely.
He’s had about 8-10 good games since he’s been here but everyone harps on about his potential.
One good moment when his right foot shot went narrowly wide in the 2nd half and one poor moment when he rather carelessly gave the ball away, leading to a good chance for them in the first half, otherwise fairly ordinary. I noticed a few attempts to overlap, that were ignored. Unconvincing when asked to play left-wing for 15 mins when Demi Mitchell went off.
Minor feckups and the daft booking aside - thought he did mostly what you can ask for in a first pre season game like this. Ran his butt off. Good enough for me.
Why can't he cross ?
That's one of the most stupid things I've read.
A fundamental lack of footballing knowledge?
Oh please all knowing sunama, please educate us.
Not sure sunama is happy unless he's moaning!That's one of the most stupid things I've read.
A fundamental lack of footballing knowledge?
Oh please all knowing sunama, please educate us.
One of life's mysteries.
The more and more I watched him today, the more I found myself cheering him on like you would a fat bloke on a treadmill. I shouldn't be cheering on a United player like that...
Still looked a bit off the pace at times relative to other players. Unfortunately I don't think he'll ever be quite good enough, even with another season under his belt. Cut the losses now and sign Sandro or Tierney.
Got a feeling he will have a stormer and then middle finger us and leave for free.
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