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From the press gossip thread:

The Independent
  • Luke Shaw is almost certain to be on his way out of Manchester United this summer with Jose Mourinho frustrated at the left-back's lack of development.

Daily Telegraph
  • Luke Shaw will finally get the chance to prove he has the stomach for the fight at Manchester United as Jose Mourinho prepares to bring the defender in from the cold.

:wenger:
 
Hardly. It should be completely understandable that most of us would be a bit disappointed after spending over £30m on a teenager, being shipped out after a few injury hit seasons without really being given a chance to prove himself or even a decent run in the first team. We bought him because he has plenty of potential (hence making him the second most expensive teenager ever) to be a very good left back which was a problem area for us for 3/4 years before he came.

He showed plenty of defensive capability at Southampton as well, I might add, a few mistakes from a lad who is still in his very early twenties shouldn't make us ignore how good he's shown he can be.

Eh.. several posters in here have consistently said Shaw will be the best left back in the world and that he is the best in the league already. Mind you, some people are completely insane.
 
Eh.. several posters in here have consistently said Shaw will be the best left back in the world and that he is the best in the league already. Mind you, some people are completely insane.

He was briefly playing as well as anybody in the league, before his injury. Far too short a period of time to start making long term judgments, but his potential is unquestionable. Mind you, the twins had similarly obvious potential, and it never came to fruition.
 
From the press gossip thread:

The Independent
  • Luke Shaw is almost certain to be on his way out of Manchester United this summer with Jose Mourinho frustrated at the left-back's lack of development.

Daily Telegraph
  • Luke Shaw will finally get the chance to prove he has the stomach for the fight at Manchester United as Jose Mourinho prepares to bring the defender in from the cold.

:wenger:

The Telegraph article is written by James Ducker, who's a lot more reliable than Miguel Delaney. Ducker says Shaw might be in the squad for the Stoke match and will play against Hull and Wigan.

It's up to Shaw to show Mourinho he's good enough.
 
Eh.. several posters in here have consistently said Shaw will be the best left back in the world and that he is the best in the league already. Mind you, some people are completely insane.
His last season in Soton he seemed to be as good as anyone in the league. It's actually a joke if you can't recognize his progression has not been completely halted by a freak injury.
 
Eh.. several posters in here have consistently said Shaw will be the best left back in the world and that he is the best in the league already. Mind you, some people are completely insane.
His leg snapped and he missed a full season of football ffs.
 
His leg snapped and he missed a full season of football ffs.

I know which is why i'm pointing out how ridiculous it is that some posters on here keep saying he will be the best left back in the world and is the best in the league. He might never fully recover from the injury so to suggest he will become top class at this stage is pure folly.
 
Mind you, the twins had similarly obvious potential, and it never came to fruition.

Rafael was great when going forward. I remember the last season we won the league he was instrumental in starting some attacks that brought us all those 1-0 or 2-1 wins that get you the league. He also used to score goals, something i don't remember Luke Shaw doing for Sotton or for us.

I guess Luke Shaw will have to deliver, finally, after 2 years of doing nothing. His only qualities are that he is an English international and he is very young. He's not a threat going forward and he's not an asset while defending. He can't cross the ball right and people say he is pacey.

Can't wait to see how this will turn out. My guess is that we will soon see him at McDonalds, as they are always looking for young lads with a fat ass.
 
I guess Luke Shaw will have to deliver, finally, after 2 years of doing nothing.

Still think "doing nothing" is very harsh. He never really got going in that first season but a) he was still a teenager and b) He got injured in pre-season and couldn't even make his debut until the end of September. Plenty of fine players would struggle to get off to a flier in those circumstances.

Then at the start of last season he was generally regarded as about our best player. Which is hardly "doing nothing". If he has done very little it's largely down to being out injured for so long. we've seen as much good as bad from him when he has been fit, but all that counts now is what he does from here on.
 
Rafael was great when going forward. I remember the last season we won the league he was instrumental in starting some attacks that brought us all those 1-0 or 2-1 wins that get you the league. He also used to score goals, something i don't remember Luke Shaw doing for Sotton or for us.

I guess Luke Shaw will have to deliver, finally, after 2 years of doing nothing. His only qualities are that he is an English international and he is very young. He's not a threat going forward and he's not an asset while defending. He can't cross the ball right and people say he is pacey.

Can't wait to see how this will turn out. My guess is that we will soon see him at McDonalds, as they are always looking for young lads with a fat ass.

Rafael scored 5 goals in 169 appearances for United. Shaw has only been here for two seasons with long periods out with injury. Too early to compare him to Rafael over goal contribution. Shaw is an average crosser of the ball but his linkup play in the buildup to attacks is much better, and he is capable of breezing past defenders with ease. His acceleration is lightning quick
 
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Shaw needs to get fit and prove himself. He has talent, but it's 3rd season at the club and for a record transfer he's proven very little, even accounting for the injuries. I still believe in his talent, but if it's going to happen for him at United it will need to start now.
 
Rafael scored 5 goals in 169 appearances for United. Shaw has only been here for two seasons with long periods out with injury. Too early to compare him to Rafael over goal contribution. Shaw is an average crosser of the ball but his linkup play in the buildup to attacks is much better, and he is capable of breezing past defenders with ease. His acceleration is lightning quick
Are you saying Shaws link up play is better then Rafaels???? :wenger:
Shaw struggles getting the link up play to work properly, sure he is rapid, but the timing of his runs and his general attacking play is still by far the weakest part of his game. He's a pretty shit crosser as well, can't really say he's an average crosser when he's maybe delivered like a handful of good crosses in his entire time at the club.
 
Still think "doing nothing" is very harsh. He never really got going in that first season but a) he was still a teenager and b) He got injured in pre-season and couldn't even make his debut until the end of September. Plenty of fine players would struggle to get off to a flier in those circumstances.

Then at the start of last season he was generally regarded as about our best player. Which is hardly "doing nothing"
. If he has done very little it's largely down to being out injured for so long. we've seen as much good as bad from him when he has been fit, but all that counts now is what he does from here on.
He played like 7 games... If that. Yes, he had a very good month, but then he broke his leg unfortunately, so it's a nothing season. Just like this season, he's played a few games and was very average at best and pretty poor in some. Of course he has potential, but while before his injury I felt he was definitely someone who could become a top class left back, I'm not sure if I feel the same anymore. Way too early to give up of course, but it's probably not too early in the summer to think about buying someone who can be first choice if Shaw doesn't improve by then.
 
Luke Shaw will finally get the chance to prove he has the stomach for the fight at Manchester United as Jose Mourinho prepares to bring the defender in from the cold.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ring-luke-shaw-cold-second-chance-manchester/

I'll believe it when I see it. I'd rather sign Ricardo Rodgriguez or even Ryan Bertrand. If you have one of those two, along with Blind you've got enough at the left back position to compete for the league next season.

This waiting game for an "but he's recovering from a tragic injury" Luke Shaw is ridiculous for a team like United. They shouldn't have to "wait" to get a decent defending AND attacking left back.

Selling him would be beyond stupid.

That's only true IF you believe the Reds wouldn't replace him with a better left back now. Sure, Blind and Darmian aren't champion side starting left backs. Apparently neither is Luke Shaw NOW.

We know that Bertrand, Rodriguez or even Wendell Borges are better and can play NOW.

See me highlighting the now. Right now Luke Shaw is dead money and ghost value.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. I'd rather sign Ricardo Rodgriguez or even Ryan Bertrand. If you have one of those two, along with Blind you've got enough at the left back position to compete for the league next season.

This waiting game for an "but he's recovering from a tragic injury" Luke Shaw is ridiculous for a team like United. They shouldn't have to "wait" to get a decent defending AND attacking left back.

No, the exactly right thing to do is wait. We owe it to one of our employees to give them a shot at recovering from a broken leg. Shaw will get it right in the not too distant future.
 
No, the exactly right thing to do is wait. We owe it to one of our employees to give them a shot at recovering from a broken leg. Shaw will get it right in the not too distant future.


If he's as good as you think he's going to be, he's going to get another job. Here or somewhere else. It's not like he came from the United academy. If the fear is that he isn't recovering from injury fast enough, no...you don't owe him a roster spot. AT ALL.
 
If he's as good as you think he's going to be, he's going to get another job. Here or somewhere else. It's not like he came from the United academy. If the fear is that he isn't recovering from injury fast enough, no...you don't owe him a roster spot. AT ALL.

The United academy is irrelevant. Shaw is young, talented and we have invested a lot of money into his future at the club. He suffered a horrendous injury and has struggled with fitness and form upon his return. Well fecking never.

It's up to Shaw himself, Mourinho and those at the club to help him build fitness, confidence and start enjoying his football again. I trust we'll do that, and not bring in some halfwit from Germany that most people have seen play no more than twice.

And United don't have a roster. They have a squad.
 
We can't sell him, he is class. People are quick to forget how good he is because he's having a tough year.

He has the potential to be the best LBs in the league.
 
The United academy is irrelevant. Shaw is young, talented and we have invested a lot of money into his future at the club. He suffered a horrendous injury and has struggled with fitness and form upon his return. Well fecking never.

It's up to Shaw himself, Mourinho and those at the club to help him build fitness, confidence and start enjoying his football again. I trust we'll do that, and not bring in some halfwit from Germany that most people have seen play no more than twice.

And United don't have a roster. They have a squad.

We'll see how much time he gets on the "squad" during Jose's tenure. Maybe it'll be a lot. Guess we have all the time in the world to wait and see.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. I'd rather sign Ricardo Rodgriguez or even Ryan Bertrand. If you have one of those two, along with Blind you've got enough at the left back position to compete for the league next season.

This waiting game for an "but he's recovering from a tragic injury" Luke Shaw is ridiculous for a team like United. They shouldn't have to "wait" to get a decent defending AND attacking left back.



That's only true IF you believe the Reds wouldn't replace him with a better left back now. Sure, Blind and Darmian aren't champion side starting left backs. Apparently neither is Luke Shaw NOW.

We know that Bertrand, Rodriguez or even Wendell Borges are better and can play NOW.

See me highlighting the now. Right now Luke Shaw is dead money and ghost value.

Like we waited for RVN. If the club (which I believe they do) believe he has the talent to be one of the best then they will wait.
 
Like we waited for RVN. If the club (which I believe they do) believe he has the talent to be one of the best then they will wait.

Jose wasn't the manager during that spell.

I'm not saying Luke Shaw won't get his chance, but if Jose handles him like he did Bertrand (who I'd like the Reds to get as a left back) I wouldn't count on Shaw getting much playing time.

I would love to be wrong though. A healthy Luke Shaw would be the best option.
 
Are you saying Shaws link up play is better then Rafaels???? :wenger:
Shaw struggles getting the link up play to work properly, sure he is rapid, but the timing of his runs and his general attacking play is still by far the weakest part of his game. He's a pretty shit crosser as well, can't really say he's an average crosser when he's maybe delivered like a handful of good crosses in his entire time at the club.

He's an average crosser, it needs a lot of work but he's not terrible. He seems to prefer playing low hard balls into the box when he gets past his man but he has also floated in some superb crosses so he's capable of it if he can reach a level of consistency. Rafael btw wasn't a great crosser of the ball by any means as well. Its too early for me to say his link up play is better than Rafael's but from what i've seen it has the potential to be. His attacking play is a major part of his game, I wouldn't call it weak at all. As others have pointed out, Shaw was beginning to perform at a very high level before his leg injury last season. The sample is too short to compare with Rafael's career but at 21 Rafael still had a lot of flaws to iron out of his game, like his positioning and his rashness (although I will say its at this age when he started to improve on those issues), two things Shaw doesn't have a problem with
 
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We just don't know about Shaw, whether Mourinho will get him fired up as he has done with other players or whether he is looking to find another first choice left back. I do think Shaw badly needs to get some games and show some decent form this season otherwise he might stagnate beyond the point of no return.
 
We have seen the team's vast improvement, and in particular Pogba's and Micky's development throughout the first half of the season. I believe part of Mourinho's trying different method's for each individual's to fit the team's needs. So far it has been working well and I am trusting Mourinho to come up with the goods again regarding Shaw. Maybe work more on his fitness and perhaps lose some of the weight instead of adding a'la Micky. Who knows, Shaw might be crucial towards the end of the season where everyone is basically getting tired and he would inject much needed energy. Post Christmas form as per SAF's time here.
 
I'd hate to see him fail here. I think if Jose rates him and puts him back into the team he'll do well again. Earlier in the season he was off the pace without a doubt but extra training will help build him up again after the injury. It's how Shaw is reacting to this situation behind the scenes that's important.
 
We all know he's got the talent, but he needs to get over these injuries now and kick on. Still young and got plenty of football ahead of him, I just hope this leg break hasn't ruined his mindset and made him paranoid about injuries.
 
Mourinho on Shaw:

"Of course," he replied when asked if Shaw's injury record had influenced his decisions to exclude him from recent squads. "You try to have in the squad the players with more minutes, the players in better shape, in better condition.

"In Luke Shaw's case, even in the game against Reading, when he could have started the game and had 90 minutes, in the morning of the game he was ill and not ready to play.

"So even in that match, which could have been good for him, he was not able to play, so he's having a difficult period."

Shaw's fitness has been under scrutiny since Louis van Gaal questioned it during United's pre-season tour in 2014.

Shaw and Mourinho had a tetchy exchange with Mourinho after Watford's winner in September was followed by another public rebuke at Swansea in November, when Mourinho questioned Shaw's decision to make himself unavailable for the match.

"For the team, you have to do anything," Mourinho said. "There is a difference between the brave, who want to play at any cost, and the ones for whom a little pain can make a difference.

"If I were to speak with the many great football people of this team, they will say they played many times without being 100 per cent.

"We have players on the pitch with problems. In every sport, how many times do you play and you're not 100 per cent?"

Shaw has played just twice since and has sustained five separate injuries this season, while illness prevented him from playing in the September Europa League win over Zorya Luhansk.

Mourinho has rotated between Matteo Darmian and Daley Blind in Shaw's absence. United will not re-sign left-back Patrice Evra from Juventus.
 
His United career is over, always injured and ill even before that terrible injury, Mourinho will not accept this.

Many players have had similar injuries (Valencia, Larsson) but after that they continued their career normally

He was always injured and ill also before that injury
 
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His United career is over, always injured and ill even before that terrible injury, Mourinho will not accept this.

Many players have had similar injuries (Valencia, Larsson) but after that they continued their career normally

He was always injured and ill also before that injury

:lol: If his career was over he would have been sold in this window. If Jones who has been injured for 80% of his life can turn it around, I'm sure Shaw can too.
 
This doesn't look good. Jose will probably start him against Hull or Wigan. If Shaw misses those games too, I don't see how he can get back into the team.
 
This doesn't look good. Jose will probably start him against Hull or Wigan. If Shaw misses those games too, I don't see how he can get back into the team.
Agreed, if he misses those games then Mourinho may already be thinking of getting rid, looks like he's not at all committed.
 
"You try to have in the squad the players with more minutes, the players in better shape, in better condition."

Choice words and pretty damning to be honest.
 
Yeah, I don't buy into the Luke Shaw is excellent nonsense the caf does. He's been here 3 seasons and had maybe 10 good games. Left back is a real weak spot for us, we will sign a left back in the summer.
 
"You try to have in the squad the players with more minutes, the players in better shape, in better condition."

Choice words and pretty damning to be honest.
Agreed. Those were aimed at getting him to buckle down in training and get in shape. If he doesn't take heed he's out in the Summer.
 
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