The simple fact of the matter is, Nothing in the world is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Hard work and Burning desire to become something is what separates your Beckham's from redknapps, Pogba from morrison, Ronaldo from quaresma, Henry from anelka and the list could go on and on.. i hope people get that point.
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Imagine if he starts tomorrow and is a mainstay in the team
I doubt he will, but here's the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...haw-Manchester-United-squad-Everton-game.html
Feel bad for the boy but thats four managers complaining about fitness. LVG, Roy, Pochettino, and now Jose.
How can anyone blindly believe the man who did this?
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...chelsea-training-to-prove-jose-mourinho-wrong
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ys-angry-Jose-Mourinho-sold-Kevin-Bruyne.html
Yes this thing might very well be Shaws fault but not even considering Jose might be in the wrong here is unwise. If he did it once, he could do it again. I'm reposting this from the other thread because it boggles me how Jose gets treated like a god because he is the United manager right now.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...chelsea-training-to-prove-jose-mourinho-wrong
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ys-angry-Jose-Mourinho-sold-Kevin-Bruyne.html
Yes this thing might very well be Shaws fault but not even considering Jose might be in the wrong here is unwise. If he did it once, he could do it again. I'm reposting this from the other thread because it boggles me how Jose gets treated like a god because he is the United manager right now.
Yep. His body bulkiness shouldn't be a problem. Lots of world class fulbacks have a build like a tank: Briegle, Junior, Maldini, etc.
He never showed that level of potential playing for us in more than a small handful of games.
He looks like Rooneys twin....only more hair.
I wish it would be like that. But i am very sure he won't. Thats the problemImagine if he starts tomorrow and is a mainstay in the team
The best full back in world football? Are you crazy? What has he shown? There are multiple better fullbacks in football right now. Luke shaw has about 2/3 assists in his full footballing career. That isn't good enough for a united fullback. He has just one assist for us - if memory serves me right.
He either needs to:
Step up and get fit and try his hardest to cement his place or;
Move on, at this time in our history I'm not bothered about mothering footballers who are practically my age.
I turn up to work everyday to try my best, and he earns 5 times my yearly salary in one week. If he can't hack it then he needs to be a club which fits his mentality.
I hope he can turn it around, if he can't do it quickly then he should rightly be moved on in the summer.
What are you talking about, there is threads after threads of people bitching about him and questioning pretty much everything about him as a manager, you're just making that up.
I find the comparison to Irwin and Ashely Cole hilarious considering he's played about two seasons of football without injuries.
He has shown potential, the having said that comparing him to the arguably the best English full back of all time and one of the most consistent full-backs is crazy.
He has shown potential, the having said that comparing him to the arguably the best English full back of all time and one of the most consistent full-backs is crazy.
He did play for Southampton too. And even for us in those small samples, you can kind of seen his massive ar.. potential.
Using your logic, how can we believe Kevin De Bruyne? Besides, it was obvious he didn't rate him and he needed a reason to stop everyone asking. You've been spouting your rubbish agenda about KDB all thread when it's not even the same scenario. Shaw has been pulled up on this issue by other managers before, Jose isn't picking on your boyfriend, relax.
In the same way he probably doesnt rate Shaw?
Again apart from 2014 when he was unfit over the summer, no manager questioned his attitude/commitment and this is pretty much an isloated incident. If mine is an agenda, what is yours? Lets continue to disagree about it.
Edit: Messed up the fotmatting.
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And apart from that one KDB scenario, you can't provide any other proof that Jose is notorious for this. When it happened doesn't matter, as it's proof of a lack of professionalism. Which is what Jose has questioned him for, so has the England manager. Pochettino has also had to work with him specifically for his fitness, so it's obviously an area of concern for him. His job is to remain fit and to play football, not come back unfit to play. He had to train by himself until he built up fitness, that's hardly the makings of a model professional. In comparison to KDB coming out with some statements, that may or may not be true, due to the fact that they could never be proven as we can't go back in time.
If Jose didn't rate him he wouldn't have pursued him at Chelsea or he would have sold him, at the beginning of the season or in January, there would have been suitors. We have adequate cover there, considering he himself has named 3 players ahead of Shaw in the pecking order, so rotation is hardly a reason to hold onto him. It's because he wants more from Shaw, it's that simple.
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What about his last season with Real? Where he started that public spat with Iker Casillas? That eventually led to him falling out with basically every player at the club. Mourinho has the tendency to have these occasional ego trips.
What this man said!
I like that....
Sometimes you can get caught up in defending something that's not factually true. Whilst the 'potential' is there to see, and seen some good moments....hold on, we spent 30m on this lad? What's he actually done here yet?
Also our last two managers have openly lambasted this player, and I can't remember that happening with anyone else too often. Sadly Shaw has a lack of professionalism and I'm not sure that would be tolerated anywhere and certainly not at the super fit spurs....
Also our last two managers have openly lambasted this player, and I can't remember that happening with anyone else too often. Sadly Shaw has a lack of professionalism and I'm not sure that would be tolerated anywhere and certainly not at the super fit spurs....
I said one on one, which is accurate given his actual performances......
That argument makes me cringe: 'I work harder than footballers.....nurses/ firemen/soldiers should be paid more than footballers.....'
Lose the inferiority complex; if you had spent years mastering your performance on a football pitch someone would be paying you millions as well. Socialist bitterness gets people nowhere.
That is a spectacular overrating - really first class effort.
No matter whether you said one on one, (what does that even mean by the way, I didn't know that was a barometer to test players on) or the best your statement is a bit bonkers anyway. There are plenty of better fullbacks in the premier league nevermind in world football.
When did I say I work harder than Luke Shaw? Your literally making things up. I said I try my best, which by all accounts is something little old Luke isn't doing.
It would be even more worrying if he was trying his best and he was still 'far behind Darmian and Blind' because then that would mean he's just not as good as them.
There's no inferiority complex, if our club took the gamble of spending £30M on a teenager and paying him hundreds of thousands a week, I expect that player to prove his worth. He's stealing his living at the minute as he doesn't even play. We'd be lucky to get £20m for him, frankly. His injury was a bad one and unfortunate, but if he's not playing and he hasn't got the mentality why should we keep him and waste further millions?
“I live with my best friends from school, four of us. Some people might think we’re always partying but it isn’t a party house. These are my best friends – I’ve known one since we were eight – and they want the best out of me.” They have their own chef – “it’s much better that way, much healthier as well” – and Shaw also has plans to do something that was impossible when he was operating on only one leg: take his driving test.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/26/luke-shaw-manchester-united-fit-happy
From August past, so he may have passed his test since then.
If you want boring football you need to hire de Boer. Also he cant stand players with a own opinion.
he meant when faced up against an attacker in a one vs one situation. Still extreme though
All that money and no drivers licence? Not much fun in that.
Not sure on what to think about this whole situation. Jose is not the first to question his fitness or mentality. He looked to be a staple under LVG until that injury. Kid could have legitimate mental issues or he could just be a hard headed kid who loves staying up late playing video games with his mates. I've predicted a substitution for him tonight. Would not be surprised if he does not feature. I'll be less surprised if he's sold in the summer.
Heard similar to this quite few times already. That poster I had the discussion with, seems to have a strange view and several matter. Some even the opposite from what happened.
Man Utd 1:1 Everton
I fear it's the end of the road for him. I mean when Jones is playing emergency LB you kind of know you need to leave. And unfortunately he follows the fate of well almost all our transfers since SAF. The main thing is he just looks out of place.
Played well tonight, reckon that shot was going in as well.
Good Cameo. Won us a point.
Hope its the beginning of a new down for him
Hope its the beginning of a new down for him
He was perfect, except for that one cross. Very focused throughout and was where he needed to be, both in attack and defense.
Was on a mission. Solid in defence. Crossing wasn't great but was always driving forward and won us the penalty.
He can still fight for his career here. Hope he does so.
Did ok defensively but those deep crosses into the box were woeful.
He was good. Well done to him.
I guess we'll see him in another clubs shirt next time. Thanks for the point.
Mourinho should go thank him for saving his bacon
Was never afraid to take the ball and try to make something happen, he's shown more than Darmian for me. Blind has better delivery but he's much quicker and saved us a few times at the back as well.
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