You have to remember he had just banged 25 goals in the league. I do respect Mandzukic and Giroud as players though.
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You have to remember he had just banged 25 goals in the league. I do respect Mandzukic and Giroud as players though.
Mourinho cannot see past tall physical players to play his football it's also why the likes of Felllaini were indispensable. If he had preferred more technical players there would've been lesser need to spend big and be desperate for a limited striker like Lukaku. And ironically Lukaku turned out to be very average in the physical aspect and very bad in using his body like Costa/Drogba etc.
There are long compilations of Lukaku missing open goals and unable to control simple passes, yet his problem are still put down to "the service". Wish people would stop with this nonsense.
Is it world class service? no, but Lukaku is not a world class player...
Thats the issue here he's not world class, hes a flat track bully who does most of his damage against lower to mid table teams
And that record was meaningless, people discussed it and it was obvious that it wasn't his normal output. I think that it's important to remember that 7 of these goals came in 2 games, there are only two options here you either think that he is going to do the same and score +3 goals in a couple of games or that he is going to somehow spread those goals which he never did before and -+3 goals games are rare and highly dependent on the opposition.
It should be a rule to never trust a record that includes exceptional events because the record will regress to the mean.
Lukaku is made out to be some sort of martyr by a certain section of the fanbase. Most of them probably still cry about poor old Jose, talking about needing more crosses, playing to accommodate the style to Lukaku and some other BS. 
Well I’m sure you know my opinion on Lukaku but there’s no point in getting into that again. I know you said there’s people who wanted no striker signed but that was very few.
That's not what I said, I said that some were against both, these people were for other strikers like Aubameyang or Lacazette, I seem to remember Werner too. I simply added that personally I was perfectly happy with the idea of going with Martial, Rashford and a wide forward.
In your reply to me you didn’t mention Aubameyang or Lacazette.
Edit - actually you did mention Lacazette. I was asking what in general people wanted.
Edit - you edited Lacazette in later and I didn’t see, sorry.
Andrea Belotti, wasn’t he supposedly the new Batistuata?.
Would not say am a big Lukaku fan but, think you've got to really to have something against him to say he is a baby. Whatever his weaknesses are - it's not for lack of effort on his part. He came here knowing what his role as the main striker is, that has changed with the manager. It's not like he is magically going to become the type of striker OGS wants. It doesn't mean lack of fight to recognize this and explore options for where his abilities would be more suited, with a manager that does rate him. He came back early even though he didn't have to, he has trained and doesn't seem to be any noise of him throwing his toys out. He's not played games in the media or through his agent - the club seems more than okay with him going for the right price and t's not like the manager is in his corner fighting to keep him.
Think it's right to move him on if he is not going to be our first option but, hope we find an option that is that bigger focal point striker as a backup. I always thought it was silly for clubs that only have 1 style of playing, with no plan B/C/D.
Think it's right to move him on if he is not going to be our first option but, hope we find an option that is that bigger focal point striker as a backup. I always thought it was silly for clubs that only have 1 style of playing, with no plan B/C/D.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but his agent has been running his mouth and showing his face at every opportunity since April.
I may be wrong on that part then but, I didn't even know who is agent s - thought it was Railoa but, seems to have split from him. Had to google what his agent has been saying and can't seem to find anything untoward other than working on a move that seems to be in the best interest of all parties, our club included. We seem to want the move but, right price is all.
Here is what his agent was saying in April, out of nowhere. Lukaku has clearly been angling for a move since at least April and used his agent to discreetly send that message, later he was telling everyone that the club knows Lukaku's wishes and then made sure to be seen at Inter's headquarters.
This is complete BS, and 90% of the problem. It’s exactly a lack of effort, desire and determination which is why he is a failure.
If he wasn’t overweight and out of shape, and actually put in some effort, then he could have a future at Utd despite his weaknesses.
The apathy surrounding all things Lukaku speaks volumes about his time at the club. Which is sad because he is a really good striker. He’s guaranteed goals if fed the chances. Unfortunately, there’s something flakey about his mentality and his fitness is atrocious (and I don’t use that adjective lightly).
True, but then I suppose the issue is that he doesn't necessarily score enough goals to make up for some of the deficiencies in his all-round play. Especially if you're a side that wants to be winning trophies regularly.
If Lukaku had Greenwood’s intelligence with movement in the box he would have been a decent striker in this team. He’s a cinder block in the box. Of course if everyone crossed a perfect ball onto a cinder block it could bounce its way in to goal... Unfortunately our style of play exposes his biggest weaknesses while other teams bring out his biggest strengths.
He is not good enough to build a team around his biggest strengths.
His biggest weaknesses go against every part of our new style of ‘swarm’ football.
Get rid. Fast
He is not good enough to build a team around his biggest strengths.
His biggest weaknesses go against every part of our new style of ‘swarm’ football.
Get rid. Fast
I agree. It’s why the top clubs in Europe want nothing to do with him.
Jose eventually dropped him mate. He simply isn't good enough for a top team expected to win trophies. And days before our Barca game he made it public he wanted out
If he had the work rate of someone like Kane, then you could build the team to suit his goal scoring abilities. Even Aguero has been able to add that to his play to better suit the team.
I'd much rather an intelligent and selfless player like Firmino who can get the best out of the other players around him. In my opinion, the timing is right for Rashford to take his chance, although I'm still not completely sold on his football intelligence. He at least offers work rate and the threat of pace that will give other players space. It would be a disaster if Lukaku is still at the club come the start of the season. His value will only further decline as he isn't getting near the team now.
Andy Cole missed way more chances than he scored- my inference is the by sheer amount of chances made for him he would score more.
BTW - I am not a LUKAKU fan boy- I will be happy to see him gone for the right fee
Like hell he does. Conte thinks he's some kinda wizard and can turn Lukaku into young Drogba. 3 months in he'll realize that's just not gonna happen and he'll be whining about it in public(after benching Lukaku) and moaning about inter's failure to buy a time machine and bring back prime Drogba and sign him
Lord please, I fecking hope this is true and then we finalise Maguire and Fernandes and then bring in an alternative striker to Rashford but who’ll fit our style of play under Ole.
Sounds like Conte's gone full Me-rinho.
Did Conte tell you this? Are you from the future?
Don't need to, Conte's been around for near a decade by now, he's not an unknown. He's Mourinho with 50% less funny and charismatic and 50% more insane
Unless you think Lukaku will miraculously turn into a high-energy, high-activity player all of a sudden...?
No idea. Story going around in Italy yesterday was inter's owner said no fecking way to €85m for lukaku
Lukaku is made out to be some sort of martyr by a certain section of the fanbase. Most of them probably still cry about poor old Jose, talking about needing more crosses, playing to accommodate the style to Lukaku and some other BS.
Some people like to bitch and complain about everything these days.
Lukaku better start running and get fit for another season in the United shirt. If Inter won't pay up, he's not going anywhere!
In the end no deal will happen, Lukaku will still be a Utd player, unfit with nearly no pre-season in his legs.
It seems telling that no other clubs seem to be in for him. This feels like it’s been going on forever.
Exactly this..^^
Very few clubs have any interest in any of our players, and even fewer are willing or able to meet our valuations.
But still played ahead of Greenwood!
Lukaku has acted quite unprofessionally in this saga. Will be interesting to see what happens if Inter dont pay up
It got to the point however where you feel they have to after everything said
It got to the point however where you feel they have to after everything said
If we don't facilitate the move, I'm skeptical about a positive conclusion. If the reports are true they are already offering good money, in my opinion.
I have no doubt a player with his strength and speed will be a monster in Serie A. He already bullies lower end PL defenders, Serie A will be like dropping him into The Championship. Conte knows that.
Its not good money, the same as what Atletico paid for Morata including the loan fee.
Its not good money. Lukaku is still a very good striker just not one that suits Oles style. Had a very good world cup too.
75m euros is a fair valuation and they haven't got near it.
He gets to do that in the PL because teams still defend 1vs1 for the most part over there. In Italy that's rare. He'd be contending with two or three players on him most of the time. As much as the PL is faster, that mostly applies to midfielders. For strikers, no league is as fast as Serie A still. Though admittedly that helps Lukaku in regards to stamina.
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