Do you believe Lukaku did anything wrong in last 2-3 months?
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Do you believe Lukaku did anything wrong in last 2-3 months?
Yes, same with Pogba. I still have sympathy for both. They are not robots.
It's too late.
When Jose was here, I was desperate for us to get Perisic, but that was only because Jose had plans for him.
Now, we don't need the guy and he is a couple of years older, too.
That's what I'd do, but knowing Woodward, he'll take that money and won't spend it, so that he can balance the books and continue giving The Glazers ever increasing dividend payments.
Same sentiment when Martial left the preseason last season?
Still deflecting and saying only what fits your narrative. I really shouldn't waste my time trying to understand your points, you have your own opinions without much reason and would hold them anyway.
I didn’t have a problem with him leaving, he could have come back earlier though. Don't think that had anything to do with him wanting a move away from the club though?
You asked me why I think Lukaku is leaving and I answered. What else do you want me to say? How is that a deflection? If you want to hear your own opinion record it and play it back to yourself.
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Nah, I understand man. You are a Lukaku fanboy, everyone has a blind spot. I hope he does well in Inter so you are proved right, but at least we would have gotten our money back on the transfer fees.
Im blind because I think he is leaving to be first choice? You’re deluded.
Do you think that it's a demonstration of his fabled determination and mentality, the one that Martial lacked?
Warrior who wants out the min he isn't guaranteed starter.
Somehow nothing on the player and the agent for speaking out in the media, wanting to leave, leaving the stadium with other club jersey.
Some of the posts on Martial (from last season) are hilarious when it looked like Martial wanted out and Lukaku was the one who was leading the attack. Warrior mentality, great attitude what not.
He was captain material, probably watched footages of Captain Schettino.
There is nothing to fight for. Ole is a Rashford fanboy. If you didn't get that from his often embarrassing quotes, then you should have got them from how they were treated last season.
One got a maximum of 10 minutes per game and was often better than the other, didn't make a change in the lineups though.
You look like a deluded Jose fan boy spouting rubbish.
It's easy to prove you wrong with simple stats but that's too much effort to waste on you.
Pretty much this..^^
He will score loads in Italy I'm sure, but he simply doesn't fit the style of football that we want United to be playing, and his presence doesn't do Rashford any favours either..
Get as much for him as we can, hopefully what we paid, then use all of those funds for a top quality Right sided attacker....
I think it says he wants to be first choice while he is in his peak years. I don't know why it has to be deeper than that or why me saying that is controversial. You bring up Martial but I don't see any fight in him, with Lukaku you can follow his career up to this point and even he himself said he had to fight to be respected for Belgium.
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Nonsense, it has nothing to do with respect. It's how you criticized Martial so much when he wanted out and not a word on Lukaku when he spoke in media and his agent was talking about transfer even before the season ended.
I don't think anyone (at least me) have problem with Lukaku leaving, I'm happy that he is going. It's just your selective outrage that's so hilarious. Having a go at young player for wanting out when he was treated like crap under Jose, barely playing 50% of league mins, but somehow everything is good when Lukaku wants out as "he doesn't want to be second choice".
Going by reports he isn't even training now with "ankle injury".
What has this anything to do with Jose?
Feck me how can this bad of a poster be a scout. Not only don't you constantly spout rubbish you also do that in the most condensing way imaginable.
lulz, love it.
I know the headlines when he hits 20 goals in Italy about how we sold a top striker but in reality we all know he will score goals.
And that is exactly what we need, if we look at what Ole is trying with his forwards is to have forwards who are flexible. He could play Greenwood, Martial, Rashford, all who can move around during different periods of the game creating different problems for the defence. We don't have the midfield behind the strikers to create bucket load of chances so the forwards have to work out a way on the pitch with movement.
Lukaku has an offer from a Champions League club managed by Conte in a league he has always wanted to play in. On top of that it is clear Ole is using Rashford up front. Lukaku has proven he can score goals in England but he is not the type of striker Ole obviously wants. That’s not a player not wanting to fight. He has shown he is focussed and will fight before which I don’t see in Martial.
That's exactly the player who is running away from the fight. He is guaranteed starter so he wants to leave (Ole isn't arsed to retain him anyways). Martial fought his way in to the team when he wasn't first choice, that's called 'will to fight for his spot'. Lukaku wants everything to be served with golden spoon, just like his game.
Well I disagree and I think the move to Inter is an obvious one for him. We don’t have to agree so I’ll leave it there.
And Martial wanting to move away when manager was an ass to him was some 'rocket science'?
It's amazing how you can't see anything right with one and anything wrong with other.
Good day.
Everything.
When you start with "Ole is Rashy fan boy, Lukaku played for 10 mins max per game", what do you expect me to reply when the posts can't be more wrong.
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Is he gone yet?
This. This. Good Lord, this.
I still remember his "man up" soundbyte from the interview he did last season. I said it at the time, but if Lukaku played as well as he talked, he'd be the greatest striker in Europe.
His bollocks about dying on the pitch, how he always strived to improve every facet of his game, etc was proven to be just that: bollocks.
I'm definitely in this camp. He had that period in the last couple of months in his first season where you thought the penny was finally dropping and his hold up play and all round game was improving. This culminated in a promising world cup showing and he then promptly went and shat the bed subsequently.
He likes to think he belongs at the top, but unfortunately the reality is, he's higher midtable, bordering on solid Europa League level. The likes of Sevilla, Wolves, Inter, Roma, Milan, etc are the teams who are a good fit for him, IMO.
That lot also wanted us to sign Morata instead who doesn't even look like a footballer, spent most of his time in PL either on the floor sulking or on the doctor's table.
Lukaku for all his flaws proved to be a better, more reliable signing and we're going to make most of our money back. The reason many fans wanted Lukaku in the first place was because he somewhat fit the criteria of a "big" centre forward which was a requirement for Mourinho.
Nope, a large amount of people were against both players.
Who did those people want?
Andy Carroll.
I think most people were against a traditional "target man". They wanted a more complete player. After having someone like Zlatan, both players were a step down.
During that period, Auba was a semi-realistic target and I think entire caf could get behind him at that point. But our manager at the time wouldn't know what to do with a striker like him. That's even more true for Lacazette. Then there was that Italian striker who I don't even remember the name of. Beyond that there weren't any options available. Even in the hind sight, we bought the right player given our manager's preferences.
Personally, I thought that all the options were poor and that it was a better idea to spend the money on the wings and let Rashford/Martial compete of the striker position. I wasn't against Lacazette though.
I dont think Rashford and Martial were ready and I think a lot of people agreed we couldn’t go into the season without signing a striker.
if Backham and Giggs were in the side then Lukaku would get 30 goals a year - but as we have no width the striker is going to have to be invovled in the creation of goals - That is not lukaku
And I don't think that it's a smart idea to spend big on someone that isn't good enough. It's not a popular idea because most people seem to think like you, I personally believe that when the money is spent, it's spent and you are fecked if the player isn't up for it, so when someone has obvious limitations don't spend big. IIRC I also proposed Mandzukic that year as an actual target man that would have been a lot cheaper and in hindisght Giroud was a potential option. But spending a top 10 all time fee for Lukaku/Morata was daft and still is.
People forget that temporarily at least once you perform
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