@Cina likes defensive wingers.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
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Did you see Rooney's miss today? He's as sharp as he's ever been probably right now. These things happen and even more so when you're struggling for sharpness as he's not played consistently.
Nani put two good balls in the box, Valencia put one absolute peach in the first half and I think I would find another decent one. Nani was also guilty of losing the ball in a manner that a professional player can not do when chasing the game. At least Januzaj could get past his marker once or twice.
He is twice the player of Valencia and Welbeck combined. He should always be starting if we want to win games.
Living in a cloud cuckoo land, aren't we?
Nani got past his marker when he put in the second cross from the left. I have no idea what you are on about.
Do you expect me to give you the exact minute or something? He did. Which is not unusual from him. As long as he does something useful I turn a blind eye to it. He didn't change or influence the game and it's a bit funny to see the old 'twice the player (insert name) is' shit whereas his performance doesn't justify that claim.
And Rooney has been banging them in all season, Nani is taking these shot's when is the last time one flew in like he intends? We all know he can do it but when was the last time we actually saw it? I don't think if Valencia and Young were playing well people would be clambouring to see Nani, I think its the next in the "Let's try this..." list - hell there's people in the Anderson thread asking for him to be played.
The cycle has begun again, these players will have one decent cameo or game and will start the next game but we should all know by now that these players have been under-performing for years, I hope and pray it will be different this time but I can't see it.
Basically Nani>>>>Valencia.
For that reason alone he should be starting.
For that reason alone he should be starting.
But Nani has had one very bad game this season, then he was dropped for a whole month. How does that work out? Fact is he came on and offered much more of an attacking thread than our other wide options tonight. The shot was awful, Rooney's shot was awful too and his chance was easier (since he's banging them in you should expect better). Nani can't find consistent form because he never gets a chance to.
I think Duffy is probably a bit over the top, but then so are the posters saying he changed the game. He was decent but it was quite a typical Nani performance, some brilliant moments which were too isolated.
I find him very frustrating because he could be brilliant, but has so little footballing intelligence
I find him very frustrating because he could be brilliant, but has so little footballing intelligence
He should be starting. He is definitely a frustrating player but he is also likely to create something and we clearly need that at the moment.
I don't think anyone is saying that?
All some people are saying is that he offers far more then Valenica or Welbeck.
Nobody said he changed the game.
No, he didn't offer more threat and no, Rooney's chance wasn't easier (as long as you talk about his half-volley on a turn).
If Moyes is going to continue with this defensive approach to every game, then why the feck give the lad a new contract? Should have sold him for another wank version of Ashley Young. Nani is clearly not defensive enough for him, hence the guest appearance each week. Getting sick of it, but I guess I'm just one of many who are in for a long few years....
He is very intelligent in the attacking areas, plays passes that nobody else can see, and always looks to link up play in and around the box, whereas most of the team just want to play it wide right.
How many great games has he had though? I understand that others aren't having great games either but I can't see what makes people believe he is going to be the catalyst to the turn around.
My point about Rooney is that he has had 1 bad shot there from god knows how many great efforts/goals/assists this season, Nani's shooting is often wayward, we know he can do it so why is he getting is so wrong.
Btw, google Nani and look at the "People Also Searched For" tab on the right hand side, Rooney's picture
Sorry, he just frustrates me something silly
Nani has some good things going for him but he's one of the least intelligent footballers I've seen at United, he often makes the wrong decision
Oh I know it's wayward, I just like that he attempts to open up play and try things rather than playing it safe. They havent been flying in, mainly because he hasn't been playing enough to score them. People just remember the bad shots and forget that he played some very dangerous crosses and made us a threat on the left (something Welbeck always fails to do)How many great games has he had though? I understand that others aren't having great games either but I can't see what makes people believe he is going to be the catalyst to the turn around.
My point about Rooney is that he has had 1 bad shot there from god knows how many great efforts/goals/assists this season, Nani's shooting is often wayward, we know he can do it so why is he getting is so wrong.
Btw, google Nani and look at the "People Also Searched For" tab on the right hand side, Rooney's picture
Have you ever laughed in real life?
I just don't remember it, I'm sure he lost the ball at some point I just can't think of a particularly bad loss of the ball. As for the rest, yeah some people go over the top but personally can feel the frustration about leaving out someone who will actually try and do something in tough areas rather than most the other players who will simply turn back and let someone else try. Obviously there's a fine line but as I said without a proper run of games you can't get in to that groove.
Well he' scored a lovely goal the other week, had a great effort against Liverpool I remember, outside of the foot volley, hit the post but was a top effort. As I said when you're in and out of the team it's hard to find that consistency, who else is coming in and out of their team but still hitting pearlers consistently, how many shots does Rooney score from distance or RVP given the amount of games they play? Valencia, kagawa, welbeck, young rarely even try to get themselves such opportunities, I'd much rather see Nani try to work the opening and have a go then not try as like I said another time he might hit the target or get a deflection etc.
Yeah I'm sure if Valencia and Young were playing well a lot of people wouldn't mind, but the point is that our attack looks lacking in both variety and cutting edge yet we have a player who gives you variety and someone who will try more difficult things that often lead to some sort of opening and he seems to be sitting on the bench and it's hard to understand why at the moment.
I find myself at peace with Nani this year because he's not had a run of games like Valencia has or the run I fully expect Welbeck to have over the coming weeks.
That 5 year contract looks more and more pointless as the weeks go by.
That 5 year contract looks more and more pointless as the weeks go by.
Yeah, he's definitely the lessor of the devils. Welbeck and Valencia are giving us nothing at this point. I fail to see how they could possibly provide any less than our other options. Get nani starting, just by controlling a ball and turning out of trouble he's already providing more to the team. Our wingers are a mess.
Aye, gotta agree with that. None of our wingers are good enough to be starting for a team like United. For all the talk of signing a centre mid we need a winger just as badly right now.
Aye, gotta agree with that. None of our wingers are good enough to be starting for a team like United. For all the talk of signing a centre mid we need a winger just as badly right now.
Yup, and a few windows ago everyone was baffled at why Fergie was willing to spend £30m+ on Hazard/Lucas.
The man knows his shit eh?
Just imagine if those 2 and last year Thiago had happened.... Jesus Christ
Shambolic performance today, but sheer insanity that Moyes persists with Valencia each game.
What's even more insane is that many posters here still view these two players as amongst the best wingers in the game. Would be hilarious if it weren't so embarrassing.
What's even more insane is that many posters here still view these two players as amongst the best wingers in the game. Would be hilarious if it weren't so embarrassing.
He improved things when he came on. Valencia does a decent job but we can't just have a gaping hole on the other side.
I think most people would've predicted that he'd be poor today. My high rating of him is under the presumption that he gets a few games in a row, but I've resigned to that not happening now. I just can't fathom why he doesn't get the chances that Valencia gets...well, I sort of know the reason, but it doesn't make sense to me.
He was shit, but as soon as he came on he was offering something different - slipping it into Welbeck and creating a shooting opportunity, just being far more ambitious overall - things that with a bit more confidence and increased playing time that might lead to different results and better end product.
He was shit, but as soon as he came on he was offering something different - slipping it into Welbeck and creating a shooting opportunity, just being far more ambitious overall - things that with a bit more confidence and increased playing time that might lead to different results and better end product.
His first piece of play demonstrated more incisiveness, creativity and intelligence than our entire attack demonstrated in 90 minutes - yes he shot miles over the bar in the end but when you're creating nothing and a player comes on to makes an opening with such ease when no one else seems capable - I couldn't help but think this is the sort of interplay we should be seeing in the team.
Ridiculous he got dropped for 2 games in a row after Leverkusen, give him a run of games and he'll turn all the promising stuff he showed today into goals and assists.
Ridiculous he got dropped for 2 games in a row after Leverkusen, give him a run of games and he'll turn all the promising stuff he showed today into goals and assists.
He at least tried to make something happen, instead of shirking responsibility.
Unless the 'contract was so we could sell him this summer' crew are right, we need to be starting him every single match - preferably on the right - for squad chemistry reasons.
He's a victim of obvious work rate. The likes of Welbeck and Valencia appear to work a little bit harder off the ball and its paying dividends for them as they will continue to be selected.
Baffles me as Moyes used players like Pienaar and Mirallas who aren't exactly workaholics.
Give Nani a run!
Baffles me as Moyes used players like Pienaar and Mirallas who aren't exactly workaholics.
Give Nani a run!
I rarely say this, but he needs to start the next game.
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