Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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shaggy said:
Maybe Moyes should give him a run of games? He hasn't had one in two years. Him and Januzaj were way more threatening than Valencia and Welbeck who are just garbage wingers.
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Agree that Welbeck and Valencia were also poor but I can't see what Nani is doing on the pitch when he gets a chance that warrants a place in the side - not that anyone is showing that at the moment.
 
Good cameo I thought which nicely highlighted how much more he, along with Januzaj, offers than our defensive winger combo of Valencia and Welbeck . They can use both feet, drift inside and have a shot - we just look so much better as a footballing side with them.
 
Duffy said:
Are the both of you serious - what did he actually do that was any fecking better than Welbeck or Valencia - not that they were any good either. What has he done in the last 6 years to warrent people asking for him to be brought on to change the game. I could think of a maximum of 5 great games he has had, in six years! How am I fecking deluded, surely I can't be the only one who is fed up of seeing him fire shots into row Z every fecking time he's on the pitch?
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He put in two great balls, one from the right and one from the left, and from what I remember, those crosses were much better than what Welbeck and Valencia offered combined. Your post is full of outrageous comments anyway and funny thing is... you're being serious.
 
Played well when he came on. Would love to see him start with the first team, instead of having to come in and play in the midst of that shambles in the 2nd half. We lost control of the match once Kagawa went off I felt.
 
Duffy said:
Agree that Welbeck and Valencia were also poor but I can't see what Nani is doing on the pitch when he gets a chance that warrants a place in the side - not that anyone is showing that at the moment.
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It's become a case of "well he can't be any worse, so why not give it a go".
 
coolredwine said:
Are you saying you would prefer Valencia over Nani?
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Valencia is a similar case, not been great for a few years now but I can't see what Nani is doing when he is on the pitch to warrant a run of game, I really can't. Like I've said I think the last time he played really well was over 2 years ago now.
 
Duffy said:
Idiot? Can you type more than this, give me an actual answer - when was his last great game? When was the last time he played really well?
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you said you can't remember anything in the last six years when he won players player of the year in 2011. Reading FA Cup this year.
 
Miles better than Welbeck. Mind boggling how he doesn't get more games in our creative-less midfield.
 
We played really well for the 20 minutes after him and Januzaj came on. 2 players that want to make something happen.
 
cacs said:
you said you can't remember anything in the last six years when he won players player of the year in 2011. Reading FA Cup this year.
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Hernandez won Players Player of the year 2011.

And seriously Reading in the FA Cup? Yeah, he's a big game player.
 
I thought he made a big difference, he came on and played with threat, it makes a difference someone willing to face up the opposition in tough areas. He came on the left and showed how you influence there even if it isn't your ideal foot. He played a couple of moved that actually let him come inside on to his right as well as getting down the line too.

There were one or two times where you see him face up his man and he seems to wait there for a bit and you can almost feel the frustration from the fans, but really what could he do there? If some can get a clip of it I swear no one was moving in our team so no one's dragging players away to create an opening.

Either way I thought he added to the team. Shooting boots aren't quite there yet but you can't expect someone to be in and out of the team and be scoring from distance straight away, or always getting past people. These are the things that take time to get your confidence/accuracy on.
 
Seeing as our starting wingers are seemingly inept of setting up decent chances I don't see why Nani can't get a proper run in the team. At the moment he's getting 10-20 minutes here and there, which isn't really doing much. It can't get much worse, so why keep sticking to what has already been proven to not work at this time?
 
Nani's crosses in those 20 minutes were more dangerous than anything Valencia has managed in the last month.

Get him back in please.
 
Also, Nani hit a shot into the stands, what about his cross that led to Rooney's golden chance that he ballooned into the crowd too. Oh wait, that didn't happen did it. People only remember the negatives with him. He played 3 really good crosses all leading to chances, and looked dangerous around the area. There's a severe lack of movement from some of our players and so many times tonight the options weren't there.
 
Duffy said:
Hernandez won Players Player of the year 2011.
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Nani was quality from 09 to about 2011, where he's had some good game and some bad games but generally he's been too in and out of the team due to a number of injuries as well as some poor form last year. There's no point going over all this again but simply put you can't get the assist stats he did in those periods without having played a lot better than you think he has in his time here and even in his poor spells his output has held up against others like valencia.
 
Orton said:
Also, Nani hit a shot into the stands, what about his cross that led to Rooney's golden chance that he ballooned into the crowd too. Oh wait, that didn't happen did it. People only remember the negatives with him. He played 3 really good crosses all leading to chances, and looked dangerous around the area. There's a severe lack of movement from some of our players and so many times tonight the options weren't there.
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The worst thing about that is that it's a chance he's fashioned from almost nothing, sure it went over but the point is that he's worked the opening which we're not doing enough. Maybe if he was around to do that over a whole game then he might hit a clean shot or get a deflection etc. As I said he's willing to actually take people on and yeah it doesn't always come off but I'd rather than then see the ball get to the edge of their box and then go backwards cause our player doesn't want to try something difficult.
 
cacs said:
I can't even take you seriously now -
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/May/Nani-is-players-player.aspx
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Was looking at Fans POTY. So May 11 which is 2 and a half years ago. I can't see why people are still crying out for him to be playing when he has not done anything in almost 3 years. He's honestly one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched, I find it bizarre that some think he will have some Cantona-esq affect on the team.
 
Ash_G said:
The worst thing about that is that it's a chance he's fashioned from almost nothing, sure it went over but the point is that he's worked the opening which we're not doing enough. Maybe if he was around to do that over a whole game then he might hit a clean shot or get a deflection etc. As I said he's willing to actually take people on and yeah it doesn't always come off but I'd rather than then see the ball get to the edge of their box and then go backwards cause our player doesn't want to try something difficult.
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Exactly, 2 minutes after coming on he creates an opening for himself. Something Welbeck and Valencia failed to do the whole first half. He adds so much more creativity to the side when he plays.
 
Orton said:
Exactly, 2 minutes after coming on he creates an opening for himself. Something Welbeck and Valencia failed to do the whole first half. He adds so much more creativity to the side when he plays.
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Even if he was shit he deserves to turn it around. Valencia and Welbeck have enough chances. No more of their garbage
 
Duffy said:
So May 11 which is 2 and a half years ago. I can't see why people are still crying out for him to be playing when he has not done anything in almost 3 years. He's honestly one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched, I find it bizarre that some think he will have some Cantona-esq affect on the team.
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he spent most of last year with injuries
 
Plays well against Leverkusen. Then dropped next two games for Welbeck.
 
I'm honestly surprised so many are still defending him, he frustrates me so much. I'll happily be here to eat a shit load humble pie the day he does come good after this "run of games" he needs.
 
Duffy said:
I'm honestly surprised so many are still defending him, he frustrates me so much. I'll happily be here to eat a shit load humble pie the day he does come good after this "run of games" he needs.
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You're being naive. It's always been the case with Nani. Give him a run of games and he will perform well, just like he did earlier this year, where he produced the most consistent run of performances out of all our wingers last season. It's not hard. And you being stubborn, after he did well today sums up your stance on this.
 
Him and Januizi looked more interested in actually trying to do something in the time they were on, than Valencia and Welbeck managed in the entire time they were on the pitch.
 
Duffy said:
I'm honestly surprised so many are still defending him, he frustrates me so much. I'll happily be here to eat a shit load humble pie the day he does come good after this "run of games" he needs.
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How will a winger, any winger, perform well when you play 1 game every 3 or 4 weeks? Even in his sub appearances though he plays with a lot more purpose then our other wingers, who all aren't sure of what to do. People defend him because he's great to watch when on form, and is so talented. It's not fair blaming him for a lack of consistency when the manager doesn't give him a chance to start unless he has a superb sub appearance. I'd understand him being left on the bench for somebody on form, but for Welbeck? Come on.
 
Put in more quality crosses (2) then Valencia's managed in the past two years.
 
MoneyMay said:
You're being naive. It's always been the case with Nani. Give him a run of games and he will perform well, just like he did earlier this year, where he produced the most consistent run of performances out of all our wingers last season. It's not hard. And you being stubborn, after he did well today sums up your stance on this.
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I'm not being stubborn I'm telling you my honest opinion, I have never been so frustrated by a player. Maybe it's because I know he has a fecking hell of alot of talent and doesnt show it but the two efforts he had from similar range tonight summed up why he frustrates me - one was 5 yards wide and one he ballooned into the SE tier 2 - we all know he can do it from that range, does it take a run of games to not blaze the ball into row Z? I get how it can take a run of games to get to the pace of the game, match fitness etc but exactly what frustrates me is situations like that where he can be breathtaking in his technique he was beyond awful.
 
He was on the pitch for 2 fecking minutes when he had that shot. He created the chance out of nothing so why not have a pop?
 
Orton said:
He was on the pitch for 2 fecking minutes when he had that shot. He created the chance out of nothing so why not have a pop?
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Some people would prefer a 'safe' player that never attempt anything.
 
Sam said:
Him and Januizi looked more interested in actually trying to do something in the time they were on, than Valencia and Welbeck managed in the entire time they were on the pitch.
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Januzaj was having a so-so game and still manage to do more than an established member of the team with world-class potential. I knew, though, as soon as he put the ball into row z seconds after coming on that someone would come up with 'at least he tried'. Proved correct.
 
We've had this "give 'em a run in the side" argument with Anderson and Cleverley for two years before most realized they're just not good enough. The same applies to Nani- he's nowhere good enough to warrant a starting place for United. I doubt I ever seen a thicker player playing for United.

In truth, Fergie left Moyes a squad full of average players, with Valencia, Welbeck, Young and an aging Rio joining the above list.
 
bosnian_red said:
How will a winger, any winger, perform well when you play 1 game every 3 or 4 weeks? Even in his sub appearances though he plays with a lot more purpose then our other wingers, who all aren't sure of what to do. People defend him because he's great to watch when on form, and is so talented. It's not fair blaming him for a lack of consistency when the manager doesn't give him a chance to start unless he has a superb sub appearance. I'd understand him being left on the bench for somebody on form, but for Welbeck? Come on.
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Like I've just said there I have no doubt of his talent but I can't see the last time he showed it and even as a winger who has played games or not, when he is in situations like I've just mentioned, the two shots he had centrally tonight, why does it take a run of games to get his shooting technique right, surely he practices it day-in-day-out in training. That's the aspect that frustrates me is not him getting into these situations, but his execution when he does.
 
Tomuś said:
Januzaj was having a so-so game and still manage to do more than an established member of the team with world-class potential. I knew, though, as soon as he put the ball into row z seconds after coming on that someone would come up with 'at least he tried'. Proved correct.
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Nani, as well as Januzi, were the only two that actually attempted anything today. Shots or crosses.
 
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