Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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It was a bit of a mixed bag I thought, some good stuff, some bad stuff, some weird stuff... basically a lacking match practice Nani performance.

Oh, and he has to be our worst regular corner taker out of the 4 of them? Bloody woeful

His corners wind me up so much. Just watching him run up to the ball is an indication it's going to trickle into the box. Can he not just hit it a little bit harder? It's either a 300mph piledriver or he dangles a leg at it. It's really not that hard!
 
Nani in 1 game shows why he is still our best winger, and we would be nuts to let him leave.

Sure he has moments where he sometimes makes the wrong decision, or tries something silly and loses possession at the wrong time, but what he does on the ball more than makes up for the bad points.

His ability to go down the line, or comfortably come inside and pick a pass/shot really is invaluable.

He signed a 5 year contract 3 weeks ago. Have you been in a coma?
 
It was a bit of a mixed bag I thought, some good stuff, some bad stuff, some weird stuff... basically a lacking match practice Nani performance.

Oh, and he has to be our worst regular corner taker out of the 4 of them? Bloody woeful

Yeah he's terrible at corners.

I don't remember much bad stuff other than the corner though? Maybe the crap shot when he should've passed to Kagawa. Other than that he did nothing wrong.
 
Yeah he's terrible at corners.

I don't remember much bad stuff other than the corner though? Maybe the crap shot when he should've passed to Kagawa. Other than that he did nothing wrong.

After a solid first half, some of his decision making in the second half let him down a bit, and his shooting was a bit wild. He also totally left Toure at one point, allowing him to make a fairly dangerous run into our box (in fact, in general neither he or Kagawa were very good defensively)... nothing overly terrible mind, and the good far outweighed the bad so it was a decent performance overall.
 
After a solid first half, some of his decision making in the second half let him down a bit, and his shooting was a bit wild. He also totally left Toure at one point, allowing him to make a fairly dangerous run into our box (in fact, in general neither he or Kagawa were very good defensively)... nothing overly terrible mind, and the good far outweighed the bad so it was a decent performance overall.


Tbf though I don't think it's unreasonable to have your shooting boots off, sometimes that just happens when you've been out for a while and I don't think he took any shots he wasn't entitled to take. As for the defending I agree it was a bit lax at times but I'm not sure if we properly adapted to their system. The fullbacks didn't naturally have anyone to pick up from outwide and so I can imagine nani/kagawa weren't sure if they should pick up the wingbacks or if the fullbacks should.
 
Tbf though I don't think it's unreasonable to have your shooting boots off, sometimes that just happens when you've been out for a while and I don't think he took any shots he wasn't entitled to take. As for the defending I agree it was a bit lax at times but I'm not sure if we properly adapted to their system. The fullbacks didn't naturally have anyone to pick up from outwide and so I can imagine nani/kagawa weren't sure if they should pick up the wingbacks or if the fullbacks should.

He had more shots then anyone else on our team, and there were one or two where there was a much more sensible/better option on. Not the worst crime in the world, but I can't really class it under "good play"... though maybe I'm harsh and it should just be "play"
 
He had more shots then anyone else on our team, and there were one or two where there was a much more sensible/better option on. Not the worst crime in the world, but I can't really class it under "good play"... though maybe I'm harsh and it should just be "play"

Look, you know I have no particular bias towards any of our players and am completely rational when it comes to them, so I'll just say this, feck you you fecking cnut, how fecking dare you say such shit about Nani? He was the best player ever last night you feckfaced cuntrag!
 
Yeah he's terrible at corners.

I don't remember much bad stuff other than the corner though? Maybe the crap shot when he should've passed to Kagawa. Other than that he did nothing wrong.

Aye - and it's a bit puzzling too, because he did well at corners back when he first started taking them.
 
First thing that struck me and something we've been sorely missing his how he attacked the leftback, cut inside, played a 1-2 with a forward and fired off a good left-foot shot (unfortunately it got blocked). For all his qualities, that would never be something Valencia would do.

Point being, we've miss the unpredictability Nani brings as a right-wing forward.
 
Look, you know I have no particular bias towards any of our players and am completely rational when it comes to them, so I'll just say this, feck you you fecking cnut, how fecking dare you say such shit about Nani? He was the best player ever last night you feckfaced cuntrag!

:lol:
 
Look, you know I have no particular bias towards any of our players and am completely rational when it comes to them, so I'll just say this, feck you you fecking cnut, how fecking dare you say such shit about Nani? He was the best player ever last night you feckfaced cuntrag!


You forgot to censor your swear-words (it's f*ck anc cnut so that the little people (I don't mean dwarfs) don't understand what you are writing). Otherwise your eloquence is spot on, my well-spoken friend!
 
He had more shots then anyone else on our team, and there were one or two where there was a much more sensible/better option on. Not the worst crime in the world, but I can't really class it under "good play"... though maybe I'm harsh and it should just be "play"


Fair enough, I just think with Nani for some reason he gets more stick than most for taking a punt when he's usually in a decent position to do so. I guess it's like Giggs, he gets a lot of stick for trying ambitious passes but then people love it when it comes off. Can't have it both ways. I agree that sometimes he can take shots when the best option would be too pass but I think in general when he shoots these days its usually when he's in a good position to do so.
 
If I was asked to name the Premier League players I dislike the most, while Suarez and Terry would get place highly, it is Luis Nani who would be right at the top of the list. For while the others are of course hugely objectionable, at least I don't have to watch them actively and adversely affect my team's performance every game.

There is genuinely not a Premier League winger that I wouldn't rather have playing for United (and yes, that includes Stuart Downing). I am so fed up of promising moves breaking down at his talented but maddeningly inconsistent feet as he ignores the simple but effective pass in favour of the 1% chance of something spectacular.

Surely I am not the only one who shuddered when hearing of his new long-term contract??

From a supposed United fan on F365 (and they put this stupid mail at the top of the mail-box). This after yesterday's game.

I rarely read the mailbox these days but the quality there has really fallen if a mail betraying such a basic lacuna in understanding football is allowed to be at the top.
 
He had more shots then anyone else on our team, and there were one or two where there was a much more sensible/better option on. Not the worst crime in the world, but I can't really class it under "good play"... though maybe I'm harsh and it should just be "play"


I can remember two instances when he took a shot, but I am not sure other attackers would have differently.
 
From a supposed United fan on F365 (and they put this stupid mail at the top of the mail-box). This after yesterday's game.

I rarely read the mailbox these days but the quality there has really fallen if a mail betraying such a basic lacuna in understanding football is allowed to be at the top.


Yeah I got in to work today and first thing I hear is Nani was rubbish yest, Kagawa was good though. People see what they want to see and a lot of people make initial opinions and then stick to it. I think this usually gets made worse by pundits who do the same and then stick by it so it's all you ever hear about certain players in the media.
 
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Are you kidding me? If we use Young as a yardstick, half of our academy players are good enough to start. Nani was old Nani, flashes of brilliance coupled with frustrating things which make me squeeze my balls. I will give it to you that he hasn't had lot of game time but he still needs to improve on those aspects which were frustrating as a fan to watch given the talent he has.

Oh shut up, for goodness sake...
 
I present to the Caf, Martin Burkitt. If anyone ever manages to come across Mr Burkitt, please give him a high 5, on behalf of Ish, for this bit of comedy gold...:wenger:

Why Did He Get A New Contract?
If I was asked to name the Premier League players I dislike the most, while Suarez and Terry would get place highly, it is Luis Nani who would be right at the top of the list. For while the others are of course hugely objectionable, at least I don't have to watch them actively and adversely affect my team's performance every game.

There is genuinely not a Premier League winger that I wouldn't rather have playing for United (and yes, that includes Stuart Downing). I am so fed up of promising moves breaking down at his talented but maddeningly inconsistent feet as he ignores the simple but effective pass in favour of the 1% chance of something spectacular.

Surely I am not the only one who shuddered when hearing of his new long-term contract??
Martin Burkitt, London
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/8942370/-...And-He-s-Not-Bad-Looking-Either-
 
I present to the Caf, Martin Burkitt. If anyone ever manages to come across Mr Burkitt, please give him a high 5, on behalf of Ish, for this bit of comedy gold...:wenger:

Why Did He Get A New Contract?
If I was asked to name the Premier League players I dislike the most, while Suarez and Terry would get place highly, it is Luis Nani who would be right at the top of the list. For while the others are of course hugely objectionable, at least I don't have to watch them actively and adversely affect my team's performance every game.

There is genuinely not a Premier League winger that I wouldn't rather have playing for United (and yes, that includes Stuart Downing). I am so fed up of promising moves breaking down at his talented but maddeningly inconsistent feet as he ignores the simple but effective pass in favour of the 1% chance of something spectacular.

Surely I am not the only one who shuddered when hearing of his new long-term contract??
Martin Burkitt, London
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/8942370/-...And-He-s-Not-Bad-Looking-Either-

What a complete and utter bender.
 
I'd say that was the best performance I've seen from one of our wingers this season (not saying that is a great achievement nor that he was amazing), but even with a rusty shot and with it being his first start to the season, Nani has already done more in one game than Young and Valencia have done this entire season ( well maybe not Valencia, I believe he has contributed quite a bit). He's dangerous, and a fully fit Nani getting games will give us a more aggressive attack. Play him more regularly and he will easily be our top scoring midfielder this year.

Oh and one thing: Please can he never ever take corners again? So dire I can't begin to explain.
 
I'd say that was the best performance I've seen from one of our wingers this season (not saying that is a great achievement nor that he was amazing), but even with a rusty shot and with it being his first start to the season, Nani has already done more in one game than Young and Valencia have done this entire season ( well maybe not Valencia, I believe he has contributed quite a bit). He's dangerous, and a fully fit Nani getting games will give us a more aggressive attack. Play him more regularly and he will easily be our top scoring midfielder this year.

Oh and one thing: Please can he never ever take corners again? So dire I can't begin to explain.

Nah, Valencia was better vs Leverkusen.
 
I'd say that was the best performance I've seen from one of our wingers this season (not saying that is a great achievement nor that he was amazing), but even with a rusty shot and with it being his first start to the season, Nani has already done more in one game than Young and Valencia have done this entire season ( well maybe not Valencia, I believe he has contributed quite a bit). He's dangerous, and a fully fit Nani getting games will give us a more aggressive attack. Play him more regularly and he will easily be our top scoring midfielder this year.

Oh and one thing: Please can he never ever take corners again? So dire I can't begin to explain.


It's hyperbole like this which makes me ignore the Nani threads.

He played well but Young against Palace and Valencia against Leverkusen were two much better performances than this.
 
It's hyperbole like this which makes me ignore the Nani threads.

He played well but Young against Palace and Valencia against Leverkusen were two much better performances than this.

Young against Palace? Genuine question. Definitely Valencia against Leverkusen. But I don't recall Young have any sort of impact against Palace, in fact Januzaj was probably better coming on for Young (I think?) after 62 mins iirc.
 
I wouldn't say they were much better, well Valencia's was. Young was playing against the weakest team in the league, Nani was up against one of the best performing teams in the league, like for like his performance was much better than Youngs was against Liverpool. I don't know why Youngs performance against CP is seen as being so good, he still couldn't find anyone with a decent ball and only took people on a handful of times. It was pretty decent for me.
 
Young against Palace? Genuine question. Definitely Valencia against Leverkusen. But I don't recall Young have any sort of impact against Palace, in fact Januzaj was probably better coming on for Young (I think?) after 62 mins iirc.


Nah he was very good. Somehow got confidence after that red card and played with confidence.
 
Nah he was very good. Somehow got confidence after that red card and played with confidence.
I must admit, I missed the start of the second half to about the 56th minute, but I thought he did "ok". Certainly expected a bit more from that performance, especially against a 10 man CP.

Valencia v Leverkusen has certainly been the best this season though. By a mile.
 
It's so fashionable to rip the piss out of Young and Valencia that people do seem to have a really distorted impression of their contributions. Mental that a game in which Valencia scored a goal, got an assist and set up the miss of the season is being talked about as less impressive than a game in which Nani... well... showed some nice first touches and had a blocked shot or two. Did he even find a team-mate once with a cross? If Young/Valencia showed that sort of lack of end product from the wings they'd be getting dog's abuse, not being hailed as having put in the best performance of the season!
 
Pogue, I take it you've been away for a while, then? Valencia was highly praised after Leverkusen, then played against City (where he wasn't even close to being our worst player) and now he's shit again because Nani came back and had a decent game. I gave up on it cause you can do nothing about haters. I sometimes get the impression that some fans on here support certain players and not the club as a whole. Same applies to Welbeck-Hernandez situation. One bad game and suddenly Danny is poor and should be nowhere near the first eleven.

It's as if they can't accept that you can have two good players fighting for one position. The fact that Valencia and Young play on the wings means they're shit cause they're blocking Nani's places in the team. Although Young really was terrible against City, he was good enough in his previous games - counts for nothing!
EDIT: For the record I believe Young shouldn't play in front of Nani but he's still a decent squad player.
 
It's mental.

To be fair, Young and Valencia carry with them the memories of a lot of mediocre displays from last season. Of course, Kagawa and Nani didn't get as many opportunities but it's not as though they outshone the other two when they did.

For me, each player starts each season with a clean slate and should be judged on the basis of their performances so far. One poor/mediocre performance is not necessarily reason to drop someone and one really good display should earn them a bit of breath space. It seems a little unfair that the only two wingers with definitive good performances in the bank at least once this season are the two most people want to be dropped on the basis that the other two might play a bit better (despite not managing this so far).

Whatever, I'd like to see Nani start the next game. Despite being iffy this season and last, there's no doubt he's capable of being absolutely brilliant (and showed encouraging signs last night (as well as on international duty). Which is something I don't think you can say about the rest of them. Valencia's arguably a tier below, even at his best, while Young and Kagawa (so far) are not even close.
 
Exactly, which means Nani's top level can be higher than the rest of our wingers. Still, it doesn't mean they're all shit.
 
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