I'd say that'll change under Moyes, somehow. I can't see any scenario where Fergie would've given him a five year contract. It's a pretty big statement of trust from Moyes, and Nani is all about confidence so that should help.
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I'd say that'll change under Moyes, somehow. I can't see any scenario where Fergie would've given him a five year contract. It's a pretty big statement of trust from Moyes, and Nani is all about confidence so that should help.
To be fair in that vid I posted, he wasn't particularly good.. and I found myself thinking even Young/Valencia would consider themselves equal to that level and then he pulls out the dribble at the end and redeems himself, that ability to create a match-winning moment even when he's playing piss poor... means he just has to start for us. He'll never be a truly great winger like a Figo/Ronaldo but he's what we need in our side at the moment.
Agreed. People complain about him trying too much that doesn't come off, but honestly I'd rather have Nani on the pitch doing that than Giggs; when both are playing poorly I still feel Nani offers something more out of the two, whereas with Giggs lately it's often just frustration mingled with the hope he'll make a world-class assist at some point to justify himself.
Yeah personally I would say Nani was given a harsher treatment than Young and Valencia who seemed to be able to get away with many more consistently poor/average performances than Nani. Maybe it was because of their great defensive contribution and that even if they're playing poor they will keep the ball well. Personally I would say even if Nani did give away the ball more he's more likely to do something positive, poor game or now.
Alternatively it could purely be a way of us communicating to Nani that he's not made himself indispensable to the team yet and so can't ask for too high wages if that was the issue over the contract.
I agree though a 5 year contract is a big statement. Personally I think Fergie wanted to keep him, he spoke about how much he can be a match winner and when push came to shove both against Real last season and against City 2 seasons ago, it was Nani who was picked to play despite not really having played much in the run ups to the games.
Now hopefully Nani will be given a good run and will get back on track.
He fell out of Fergusons favour I reckon under Moyes though I think he will get his chances he is though returning to match fitness, same goes for Kagawa.
There's nothing to suggest that at all IMO. Even when Nani was badly out of shape/form, Fergie played him. He's a smart man - he even gave Nani a consistent run of games earlier this year to prove himself, and that he did. He even let Nani start vs. Real Madrid. Massive decision, which paid off. What can be said is that Fergie had high hopes for Nani, but obviously the latter hasn't exceeded or matched those expectations.
Anyway, I finally found the game which more or less ended Nani's season in 2011/2012. This was a very good performance against Arsenal:
Yeah, I don't believe that he fell out of favour with SAF for one second. Nani was just very unlucky, in that every time he made an impact(like the one vs Madrid.) he got injured or in that case, suspended.
As said many times on this thread, he needs a run of games without any disturbances and he'll be back to his best.
As said many times on this thread, he needs a run of games without any disturbances and he'll be back to his best.
I would take the risk if there's any, on giving him a long term contact knowing what he's capable of. And trust he could recover his form over loosing him on a free comes January.
The issue for me is whether he's worth the investment. £120k a week over 5 years is a lot of money for a player who's form has been erratic at best. We'll see I suppose.
Yeah, first I've heard of wages being thrown around.
Rumours were Nani supposedly wanted 120k. But those weren't confirmed and there's nothing to suggest he didn't sign for less.
He's been brilliant in patches and awful in others. I call that erratic.
It was in the paper. I obviously dont know if its true but I would imagine he'd be on a canny sum somewhere near that.
Name me any player, apart from Ronaldo & Messi, who is always brilliant? In fact, include Ronaldo & Messi in that.
He's never ever been awful
Just play him on the right, he can't play on the left.
go on Cina, take a big old bite on that one!
go on Cina, take a big old bite on that one!
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Name me any player, apart from Ronaldo & Messi, who is always brilliant? In fact, include Ronaldo & Messi in that.
He's never ever been awful
No player is always brilliant. But a lot of players manage to maintain a large level of consistency over their careers. Nani can be brilliant, much more so than most players, and because of that its particulary dissapointing when he isn't very good.
Injuries have contributed of course, and that's not his fault, but he needs to be playing week in week out, which he hasnt done for a while, to justify a new contract, in my opinion at least.
Regardless, Moyes obviously thinks he's worth a new deal so fair enough. I hope he repays that faith.
The last 18 months?
He has had spells where he's been very good - and then followed that with injuries or indifferent form. He should be a regular given the ability he has, but hasnt been able to do that recently for whatever reason.
As I said above, hopefully he can get back to his best form.
No, not the last 18 months. But you've pointed out the reason. Regular injuries have been the primary reason behind his indifferent form. That, and a strange selection policy from Fergie at times. Anyway, I'm very pleased he's signed on, and very confident he'll repay the faith if fit.
He had 1 bad game, that's all, 1 bad game & even in that game it was just that nothing was coming off for him.
I can name 2 other United wingers who were consistently off form for the whole of last season, not just in one game.
I can name 2 other United wingers who were consistently off form for the whole of last season, not just in one game.
Guys, he's the best we have offensively in midfield but let's be honest - he IS erratic.
No he's not
Yes, he is.
He is high risk, high reward player. Like Giggs, Rooney, Gerrard, Sneijder etc.
Just back from holiday to be greeted by this news. Excellent.
Keeping Rooney and Nani, who's going to have a tremendous season imo, is huge and a bit underrated by some fans. We would have to spend sth in the region of £30 million to get a winger of his quality in this market.
Indeed - and like I said, its not his fault. It's still a factor in my opinion though. Whether a player isnt hitting top form because he's injured or for another reason the net result is the same - he's still not out on the pitch doing the buisness and that surely has to come into consideration when new contracts are being handed out.
There are a lot of very talented footballers out there - the very best can be relied upon do it pretty much week in week out for years, and I'd like to see him do that and justify the fath the club have shown in him.
When playing well he's a top player, no doubt - I'm just surprised at the legth of the deal given the issues he's had and I wouldnt have been surprised if they moved him on this summer. Regardless, he's staying so lets hope he hits stop form soon.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...d-him-to-sign-a-new-deal-at-manchester-united
Source close to Nani says that Moyes cooked some great meals while he was at Nani's house over the summer, and that was one of the main reasons Nani signed a new contract.
Source close to Nani says that Moyes cooked some great meals while he was at Nani's house over the summer, and that was one of the main reasons Nani signed a new contract.
You know a funny thing I've noticed with Nani... he's universally slated by the half-wits and plastics who post comments on news sites etc, but almost universally backed by everybody on forums, who tend to be people with a slightly deeper interest.
Where does this nonsense come from?
From our heads obviously.
phew
Player Focus: Consistency Key To Nani Revival
In 2003, Manchester United signed Cristiano Ronaldo. Four years later, Nani followed his compatriot to Old Trafford. Having both spent time with the Sporting Clube de Portugal youth team before being promoted to the senior side, many felt that, in 2007, United had the best set of wingers in the Premier League.
When Ronaldo departed for Real Madrid for a then world record fee of £80m, Nani was supposed to step up his game and emulate the Portugal captain, but the 26-year-old has failed to live up to the astronomic standards of the United fan favourite. While the winger has shown glimpses of his potential, his consistency has often let him down and while Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia have underperformed over recent months, the Portuguese winger has continuously found himself on the peripherals of the first-team.
Making only 11 appearances last season, 7 of which were starts, his input was severely hampered, despite some fans calling for him to be ahead of Young and Valencia in the pecking order. Yet, despite his lack of action, Nani has still accumulated the most assists (32) in the Premier League between the summer of Ronaldo’s United departure and the present day.
His creative capabilities have rarely been called into question and his assist return is a testament to this, perhaps more so when taking into consideration that, between 2009 and 2012, the winger grabbed 30 of his 32 Premier League assists. Evidently, when handed a chance to showcase his talents, Nani is capable of providing an attacking threat to a team that has created just 2 clear-cut chances this term, reinforcing why he recently signed a new 5-year deal at Old Trafford.
This new contract came despite suggestions that his time with United was set to come to an end over the summer and having played just 27 minutes of football this season, speculation hinted that a potential move away in January could become reality. The exit talk proved to be dumbfounded as Nani extended his stay with the club, regardless of the acquisition of Wilfried Zaha to add further competition in the position.
The poor form of Young and Valencia will have attributed to United's decision to keep hold of the Portuguese as United aim to retain their Premier League title under David Moyes. During the three years - 2009 to 2012 - where he was regularly utilised by then manager Sir Alex Ferguson, Nani created a total of 18 clear-cut goalscoring opportunities, with only Wayne Rooney (26) and Ryan Giggs (20) creating more in a period that saw an increase in competition for the Premier League title.
With 9 goals and 14 assists - the latter of which was the most of every player that year - his 7.58 rating in the 2010/11 season was the highest in the Premier League that campaign. While he never reached the same level of quality as Ronaldo, his consistent performances on the wing at the time offered a more direct threat to the club and one that could certainly be utilised following two uninspiring team performances against Chelsea and Liverpool.
Having now failed to score in successive Premier League fixtures for the first time since August 2007, someone of Nani’s unpredictability out wide would act as another threat pushing forward and one that is more potent than Young and Valencia. Moreover, his experience in the upper echelons of English football would weigh in his favour, especially when compared to Zaha.
Moyes wouldn’t have offered the player another contract if he didn’t believe this to be the case, with Nani admitting that Ferguson’s successor convinced him to put pen to paper last week. His creative capabilities over the last 4 years are evident, so fans calling for Nani to be a first-team regular once again come as little shock.
These calls for him to start grow louder still when considering Marouane Fellaini is now a United player. An aerial target of the Belgian’s ilk - only Michu (6) scored more headed goals than Fellaini (5) in the Premier League last season - would ensure that both the 25-year-old’s heading ability and Nani’s creativity are capitalised upon.
If he can rediscover the form that made him such a threat over the 2010/11 campaign, there is no reason why he can’t match a rating of 7.58 once again. In that season, only Joey Barton (2.8) and Leighton Baines (2.6) averaged more crosses per game than Nani (2.3). Morever, having completed 2.5 successful dribbles per encounter - only Charles N’Zogbia (3.2) averaged more - his attacking prowess is denoted in his ability with the ball.
While these figures dropped over the 2011/12 season, Nani still exhibited how dangerous a player he can be when given ample playing time. Since Ronaldo left, his highest average rating came in the year he played 2668 minutes - the most he has played in a single season over the last 4 campaigns.
With Young turning out an underwhelming performance against Liverpool, Valencia failing to match the heights that won him a number of admirers during the 2011/12 season and Zaha short of Premier League experience, Nani is arguably Moyes’ best choice out wide. If he can coax out the impressive displays that saw him shine in years gone by, than many would be right to assume that the winger has earned his new 5-year deal as Moyes aims to make his debut year with United a memorable one. http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/r3mbs.../Player-Focus-Consistency-Key-To-Nani-Revival
That's wrong, Nani had 18 assists in the PL in 10/11!
whoscored's stock has gone down so far imo of late.
Watched him for Portugal against Brazil and he was still a bit rusty.
Watched him for Portugal against Brazil and he was still a bit rusty.
Is this still a saga?
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