Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Galactico contract extension? Is that fact or just something concocted by the newspapers? Also, do we actually know how much the supposed "reasonably generous" contract was worth?
Other than that, I love the lad and I'd keep him before any of our other wingers. Every winning team needs flair players and he's the only one we've got atm.
To be frank, all I "know" about what goes on inside the club is either reported online through websites such as MEN, The Telegraph and so on or on SkySports, which for the time being is no longer being broadcast in the US. I tend to dismiss Twitter and even RedCafe as reliable sources of factual information. To your point, I believe it's accepted as common knowledge in the public domain that United offered Nani a new contract and, to date, he has declined the offer to sign that contract. But, in light of the constant stream of bullshit that passes for "news" in the UK media, who really knows? Maybe Nani shagged Mrs. Ferguson and the club are looking for a graceful way of getting rid of Nani.
But I do agree Nani would be worth keeping, but only if he can pull his head out of his ass and play consistently, cut down on the excessive flair and think more about winning matches. On his day, he's a fantastic footballer who puts Valencia and Young to shame. We just need to see more of those days and fewer of the days when Nani bitches and moans about not getting calls from the referee.
When was the last time that happened?
It really depends on which side of the fence you're on.
Some fans would say he is handsomely remunerated and he is throwing his toys out of the pram because he wants a ridiculous contract. They would quote some sources that stated he wanted £160k+ a week to be put alongside United's best players.
Other fans would argue he is quite rightly asking for parity with our other wingers and other sources back this up - saying he is currently paid around £70,000 a week, which is apparently c.£25k less than Valencia and c.£50k less than Young and that he wants a similar wage to this (around £100k).
The only thing we know for certain is that he has't been offered the deal he is after.
Just because he's not been offered the deal he's after it doesn't mean he hasn't been offered a fair wage or even a wage on par or higher than what is paid to Valencia and Young.
I'm not sure how to value him to be honest in terms of wages. Is he worth £50,000 less than Young? Probably not. But at the same time independent from that I don't see why he deserves a big pay rise. He's spent far too long drifting in and out of the team for that. Young just had the fortune of being signed later and therefore able to demand a higher starting wage.
I'm not sure how to value him to be honest in terms of wages. Is he worth £50,000 less than Young? Probably not. But at the same time independent from that I don't see why he deserves a big pay rise. He's spent far too long drifting in and out of the team for that. Young just had the fortune of being signed later and therefore able to demand a higher starting wage.
Well he's not really suffered injuries to any great deal. Take last season out of the equation and he's played pretty much the same average as anyone else over a three year period. That is if you take a players last fully-fit three seasons his average is right up there with the lot in terms of appearances. So he's had chances, he's played a lot of games and he's still not quite there. If the wingers haven't impressed or have disappointed it might be sensible to look at offloading the one who's had the more chances to impress and whose contract is closer to expiry.
Taking his last 3 seasons into consideration - when he has consistently been played he has performed very well. He was brilliant for the 10-11 season and also up until the injury against Arsenal end of January 2012. Due to injury and being out of favour he hasn't been played consistently since then.
He is definitely a player that requires a run of 7-8 games to find his consistency, though.
Why the hell would we sell him to Spurs?
Makeweight for Bale.
The word consistent has been used in 103 posts thread. Tedious.
Well this may be his problem 8 games, in terms of the league is give or take a quarter of a season. If that's the standard, and I don't think you're too far off, then the decision to get rid is an obvious one. A player that takes so long just to get into the swing of things is just a passenger save for the five or six games a year he's able to get his act together for.
I don't get how. He's had six seasons and so far the only argument against his inconsistency is to point to one and a half where he's been good. Which sort of underlines the point.
Great club Roma, today 1st day of training with a nice banner by the fans "welcome back shits"
Great club Roma, today 1st day of training with a nice banner by the fans "welcome back shits"
Don't tell me that dump is part of Roma's training ground?
It's outside the training ground
They train in an inner city sewerage plant. The sign is literal.
http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Internacional/inglaterra/interior.aspx?content_id=832429
So according to this, it looks Moyes wants him to stay and we're negotiating a new contract with him.
I could see that happening simply because he gets a new start under Moyes, who for all we know might be a fan of his from sending out teams against him. Sir Alex might have favoured Young and Valencia but we dont know how Moyes might think about it.
Makes so much sense. Would mean not having to sign a winger for a large fee and letting go of Nani for feck all.
Hope it happens
Spurs offer made me laugh. They take the piss sometimes.
If we tried to sign him from Spurs they'd ask for £25 million
I would love for Nani to stay and showcase the form of 2010/11 again.
Huzzah!
feckin awesome.
Well it'd clear a space. Valencia's one poor season deserves another shot and Young, like him or not, was a more recent investment. With Zaha coming through and the need to incorporate Kagawa into the team on a regular basis requiring perhaps a tinkering to the midfield structure, it might not be a bad idea. The interest isn't exactly overwhelming with one year left to go on his contract, if we tied him down to another 4/5 years we can kiss goodbye really of getting rid of him during that time even if a point came where we really wanted to.
I'm not fussed if he stays but I think anyone expecting anything more than someone who'll drift in and out of the side sporadically then they're being over optimistic.
I'm not fussed if he stays but I think anyone expecting anything more than someone who'll drift in and out of the side sporadically then they're being over optimistic.
Totally agree Cina, £10-15 million is a frankly pathetic price for a player of Nani's quality, which is all we would get, if that. That's less than dross such as Carroll, Henderson, Downing, Young, Steven fecking Fletcher etc etc. Bad season from him last year but was good the year before and brilliant the year before that. A return to even 2011/12 form would be very welcome.
Not his biggest fan but I would rather be stays. On his day he is a class and hopefully he can rejuvenate himself under Moyes.
well said
I don't know but I don't think keeping hold of a player because we might not get someone better is necessarily the greatest argument. I'd personally be in favour of making our midfield a wee narrower than it is. I think the work full backs do these days they can pretty much take the strain of a winger's role, especially at a club like ours when they're far more likely to be down the other end of the pitch than in defence. Personally I'd like to see Kagawa and Rooney as two 'outside middle' AMs with Evra and Rafael covering the flanks.
You could say that about any player in our squad. Let's get rid of Rooney so we can pay double the price for Bale while we're at it. Zaha? Unproven, let's get rid of him and spend feckloads on an already top winger.
Why would we get rid of Nani? Is it so unrealistic to think that at 27 years old he can't return to the form he showed for 18 months not that long ago? Maybe Moyes actually thinks he's a better player than Fergie did and might actually ... play him.
Ideally Nani should be starting along with Rooney and Kagawa and all 3 of them playing behind RVP.
Nani played just as much as anyone else. Take out last year and since he's joined he played on average 39 games a season. I don't know where this idea grew that Nani hasn't had a chance. He's a 27 year old international with eight years as and 350 games as a senior player behind him. I think that counts as a 'chance'.
Besides Valencia and Young are unlikely to go anywhere for whichever reason plus we'll be looking to get Zaha some game time, Welbeck may well be a favoured option on the wing now due to last seasons contributions and we have to find a way of incorporating Kagawa into the side. I'm not sure Nani leaving will make that much difference really. He's a good player but apart from 18 months in a six year period he's never really been pivotal.
No take out the year he suffered badly through injuries to get a fairer assessment with how he's been used since his time at the club.
Don't talk bollocks, injuries were only half of it. He was dropped a shit-tonne this season.
feck sake, people seem to just see what they want to with Nani.
Nani has had a chance and he's taken it.
I didn't mention the word consistency nor allude to it. The fact you have is fairly telling. Like when a husband says to his wife "I haven't been sleeping with anyone" when she wants to discuss what he wants for dinner.
He's been at the club for SIX YEARS and played nearly THREE HUNDRED TIMES in his senior career. Not even factoring in his 66 international caps.
The fact he was dropped last season doesn't change the fact on average he's played nearly 40 games for the club for 5 of the 6 seasons he's been here.
Yet still he hasn't had a 'chance'?
Fair enough though, i misread the last part.
If he's a good player, as you say so yourself, why the feck should we get rid of him? Weird.
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