Is this a trick question? Cause if not it's as dumb as f**k.
Even the Nani obsessors will struggle with this little gem.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Is this a trick question? Cause if not it's as dumb as f**k.
Even the Nani obsessors will struggle with this little gem.
True. I'm a fan of Nani, and would probably rather keep him than Rooney (dependent on other signings), but you'd have to say he's been less consistent over his career. He did have 18 months or so of being very consistent from 2010 onwards, but other than that he's been patchy for one reason or another.
I actually just wanted to get peoples opinion which nobody could give I was trying to gauge the feelings of the fans.
I don't get this argument, though. I'm not a fan of Nani, but 18 months shows how underrated his work is. From the start of 2010 until 2012, he was consistent. He was consistent for two seasons, though towards the end of last season he was in and out of the team, but that was to do with injuries and not his consistency.
Nani has shown I think that if you give him a consistent run in the side he'll give you consistent performances. When he's in and out of the side he struggles and seemingly his confidence seems to dip as well.
True, I've pointed out on here myself that Nani is way more consistent than people think, and most of his genuinely patchy form when actually given a run in the team is well in the past. But if Nani suffers from massively exagerated talk of his inconsistency, then the one player who gets it more is Rooney. Rooney has held a level incredibly well for about a decade at United, which is more consistency than Nani's 2 years.
Agreed. I doubt many footballers can turn a performance on having not played for ages and knowing anything average would see him spend the next month on the bench.
Still really hope he stays, he is our best winger when on form IMO.
Hopefully he wants 1 more year under a new manager to see if anything changes, if not he will leave.
Hopefully he wants 1 more year under a new manager to see if anything changes, if not he will leave.
After Zaha deal, there's no new skillful wingers on the horizon, so far... There's a huge chance, he'll stay.
Perhaps Moyesy with his solid psychological skills will get the best of Nani and once again, we will see a good old magic.
Perhaps Moyesy with his solid psychological skills will get the best of Nani and once again, we will see a good old magic.
The only time he had a run on the side.
PS: The word consistent appears 56 times on this page-- not the whole thread, just this page.
Consistent consistently consists.
If he goes, then let's hope it is to Monaco. That way we will at least get a decent pay day.
I'm tired of hearing the word inconsistent with regards to Nani's performances. He's the only player that criticism is directed towards, despite the fact that this season and prior, we've had many players who fit in that same category.
Exactly. Cleverley, Anderson, Valencia, Giggs, Young etc.
And labeling a player inconsistent after an injury riddled season doesn't make sense. That's my problem with the Nani and Rooney debacles. Both players had stop start years. Consistency is nearly impossible when you are constantly trying to get fit.
Nani is a game changer with immense skill that can win a game at any time. You need players like this.
If we sell Rooney and try to make a more passing game with Carrick, Alcantara and Shinji in center, it doesn't make sense at all to sell him, especially if we sell him for a lower fee and especially now that we're with another manager. Better keep himthan sell him for 10m, and next summer depending on form wr can either give him a new contract or he'll go on a free. But if things go right, he would not leave us cause he looks like a player who loves United.
I really, really want to see Nani, Thiago, Welbeck, Van Persie and Kagawa in one team. Beautiful things would happen.
At the same time?
Not true. Many here criticize Rooney's lack of consistency, quite rightly so. Except that it's more egregious with Nani.
Yeah you could definitely have welbeck/Rooney, nani, kagawa and rvp as the four main attackers and let then interchange with say rvp the central spearhead although even he can drift, it just means you don't emphasise on the wingers staying tight to the line, that was te problem with playing kagawa from the left last season. Starting wide isnt the problem, plenty do it and are like kagawa, ie silva, mata iniesta etc, its just we wanted him to stay wide it seemed in some games. Nani is the one who can give you the real wide option, comfortable at going down the line if either flank and at coming inside.
Then you have thiago and carrick in the middle. I've really wanted to see that front four given a run for sometime now and adding someone like thiago centrally just makes it better. I think it would have been and hopefully will be really well balanced allowing us to having a proper mix if being able to utilise the wide areas and attack through the middle.
Sounds like a disaster just looking for a place to happen to me tbh. Back 4 plus Carrick as a DM with the 5 players mentioned ahead of them lack sufficient backbone IMO.
Why? They all track back, nani gets criticised for his defensive work but he's better than most think and Valencia and young are two particularly hard workers defensively. Welbeck never shirks his responsisbikity and kagawa tracks although he may have struggled for strength. Plus you have to remember that by now being constantly as wide as they've been before it makes it easier to retain possession but also easier to get the ball back quicker and stop moves trough the middle which has been our problem because we've always been outnumbered there. That shouldn't happen. Tbh there's non more attacking players in that team than in any other team.
What?
People aren't saying Nani is inconsistent on the evidence of just 1 season you know. Consistency, for whatever reason/excuse, is something he's struggled to find for the majority of his time at the club.
I'm firmly in the "hope he stays" camp though. He's a very good player.
Sounds like a disaster just looking for a place to happen to me tbh. Back 4 plus Carrick as a DM with the 5 players mentioned ahead of them lack sufficient backbone IMO.
Or to put it another way Thiago, Nani and Kagawa plus 2 strikers with a DM in front of a back 4 isn't a team I'd think most managers would select. Those 3 are far too similar for my tastes.
In any case Nani looks to be off for reasons footballing and otherwise and we haven't even signed Thiago, so it is a bit of a moot argument. Too much FIFA 13 and Football Manager IMO. Everyone is a transfer and formation muppet.
We played the majority of last year with this formation. While Nani is not Valencia, he is good at defending and Thiago is as good as Cleverley at defending.
I don't see how it's a weird formation at all it's a standard system based on a central 2, and then 3 players who can move around a main striker. All of the players mentioned are players who will work hard. The only issue is if you see Thiago as two attacking to player a deeper role. Personally from what I've seen I think he'd fit in well next too Carrick and would be fine with doing his share of the defensive work and as I said not keeping nani/kagawa too pinned to their wings would allow us to be more secure through the middle through increased passing options and more players around to cut out a central counter attack.
We were pretty ordinary last year by our own lofty standards. We are fine for strikers even if Rooney leaves but if we add Alcantara to midfield there is still more needed. Nani and Anderson out and another top class midfielder in. Bale or Ronaldo would be ideal but a bit on the wet dream side of the muppet agenda.
It's a perfectly orthodox line up. It would require Welbeck and Rafael being a little more reserved but that's a given - no manager on the planet would line that team up so as to leave the whole defensive burden on Carrick. People probably think of Thiago as some sort of Silva-ish attacking midfielder but he is first and foremost a central midfielder. That's a common misconception I've noticed on here actually, but anyone who watched the recent Spain U21 team (or the one from two years ago) will attest to how deep Thiago can play.
Because they are all skilful footballers? All three of them would play different positions even if they were to interchange.
It's harmless speculation anyway - it's not completely unfeasible that we'll have both of them next year so I reserve the right on an internet forum to get a little giddy about that sort of prospect! That team is so wonderfully poised in an attacking sense and decent enough defensively, and it would most likely not share the same problems that this year's team did regarding composure of wingers/directness through the centre.
Tranfer/formation muppetry is more going in the direction of Bale, Ronaldo, etc.
it's all fairly quiet on Nani, so goodness knows what will happen.
It's quiet on all fronts, not just re: Nani. There's literally nothing even half-substantial to talk about at all.
Like Rooney he's not even had a sit down with Moyes yet. Still, I feel there's little chance he'll change his mind about leaving at this point, and for all we know Moyes might not even want to convince him to stay.
I have seen a fee of £10 mentioned. At that price we may as well hold on to him and let his contract run down. If he starts well next season, then we still have a class player on our hands.
10 million is criminal for a player of Nani's ability, especially in the current market.
I agree, a bizarre valuation. If a 2 footed winger of Nani's ability from another top club became available for only 10m, i find it difficult to believe we wouldn't try and sign him!
Seems like we have mishandled him. He should have been on the same wage as Young. If we lose him for £10m with the fact we paid £16m odd for Young will hurt. Can we not get rid of Young?
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