Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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Hmmm? Far from convinced.

not really a lot to reply to there? I suppose it comes down to the definition of world class..


world-class
adj
of or denoting someone with a skill or attribute that puts him or her in the highest class in the world


On that, I suppose the meaning of the word was somewhat misused by me, I had hoped it would back me up, but on that basis it would appear as though it is the top 'few' of that 'skill/attribute or profession', of which, quite clearly even Nani couldn't argue that he was...
 
http://footylatest.com/out-of-favour-man-utd-star-desperate-for-a-move-away-from-old-trafford/44821?

Rehashed bollocks for you, I thought it was quite funny though:


Manchester United’s out-of favor wing wizard Nani has reportedly decided his time at the Old Trafford club has come to an end. The Portuguese International has his heart set on a move to Italian Champions Juventus or a switch to new money-bags Monaco this summer.
Nani, who boasts jaw-dropping skills with the ability to tear apart any opposition on his day, has suffered from an inconsistent couple of seasons at the Manchester club and is widely expected not to feature in new manager David Moyes’ plans for the reigning Premier League Champions.
The dazzling winger joined Man United from Sporting Lisbon in the 2007 season in a big-money move, but it wasn’t until the 2010-11 season that the United fans saw the tricky winger finally come of age. The speedy winger played an integral role in helping the Red Devils to a 19th League title enroute to taking the Player of the Year accolade at the club’s Annual awards night.
However, the wide player has often showed his Jekyll and Hyde self, where his decision making in the final third often led to his teammates and fans ending up frustrated.
With Juventus and Monaco interested in signing up the wing-man and with informal talks already well underway, a deal could be thrashed out in the upcoming days. Neither side are likely to face much trouble matching United’s £8 million asking price.

 
To sum it up... all our wingers have some exceptional moments/runs... to be fair, except for Giggsy, they dip in form without any reason whatsoever, randomly... and it becomes very frustrating for us because they most of the time do feck all when we expect them to deliver.

This is the reason we need CR and someone alike. We need creativity and an exceptional passer to feed inched perfect balls to Rooney and Van Persie.
 
Hope he feels that now we've got a new manager, he can stay and compete for a first team position.
 
I can't believe we're going to sell Nani but keep Young & Valencia.

It makes we want to cry.

I actually shuddered and got goosbumps when I entered this thread and read this. How the hell can we do this?

Well, until it's confirmed, I will live in the hope that he will sign now that Moyes is the manager.
 
Does seem ridiculous to think Nani would be on his way out, but then you look at his stats last year, and see how we won the league comfortably without him, and maybe not so daft.

Always had to play second fiddle on the right, as Valencia couldn't ever switch sides.
 
Does seem ridiculous to think Nani would be on his way out, but then you look at his stats last year, and see how we won the league comfortably without him, and maybe not so daft.

Always had to play second fiddle on the right, as Valencia couldn't ever switch sides.
It's not often we win the league with one part of our team being consistently woeful. I wouldn't base one year where a player suffered multiple spells out of the team mostly due to injury to judge his importance over a 6 year period. We can thank our strikers, de Gea, Carrick and most importantly SAF for getting us to the title this season. Rafael deserves a special mention too. Of course each player made a contribution but they were the standouts for me. I doubt we can be so consistently poor on the wing and win the title again. I think you need to treat this season in isolation and not use it as basis to say one player isn't so important. We played Valencia in a majority of games where he did not do much either. Does it mean we shouldn't value his services anymore?
 
Yep, you do get some odd seasons.

The season we last won the league, we were really poor away from home, and I think it was the lowest amount of away games we'd won in a high amount of years.
Luckily the home form was off the scale.
 
fecking hell selling Nani and keeping Valencia and Young
 
I never thought Nani was as high as world class whatsoever, great player yes, but not in Iniesta, Rooney, Drogba, Vidic, VDS,RVP, Messis class etc which are a few players who are world class.

Still though that fee is a bit of a piss take, I would have placed him around the 15-18 mark.
 
I never thought Nani was as high as world class whatsoever, great player yes, but not in Iniesta, Rooney, Drogba, Vidic, VDS,RVP, Messis class etc which are a few players who are world class.

Still though that fee is a bit of a piss take, I would have placed him around the 15-18 mark.


Who is VDS? He is a more gifted footballer than Drogba and the last time he was fit and playing consistently he was the best winger in the league. Drogba was a mismatch few could contain him physically but he was never world class for me apart from that season with Ancelotti. His inconsistent tag is the same as the tag Carrick has of being poor. He gained a rep early and it stuck. He may need a change of scenery would have loved for us to keep him. He will go to a new team with a clean slate and show what he is capable of again. Comparisons to Ronaldo where always unfair they are different players.
 
He is a more gifted footballer than Drogba and the last time he was fit and playing consistently he was the best winger in the league. Drogba was a mismatch few could contain him physically but he was never world class for me apart from that season with Ancelotti.

More gifted doesn't always mean better though. Luka Modric is more technically gifted than Roy Keane was but I know who I'd rather have in midfield like.

Didier Drogba was definitely world class as well, not that it really matters much. He was a brilliant forward, twat or not.
 
More gifted doesn't always mean better though. Luka Modric is more technically gifted than Roy Keane was but I know who I'd rather have in midfield like.

Didier Drogba was definitely world class as well, not that it really matters much. He was a brilliant forward, twat or not.

Fair point. Drogba just struck me as an odd name in that list for some reason. I don't think he was worldclass he was never as prolific as the likes of Eto'o, Henry, Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Shevchenko etc. he was very good though he had a couple of standout seasons.
 
I have just seen this posted on Facebook, any truth in this or just more bullshit.

Manchester United set to offer Juventus Nani in part-exchange for Italy international.

Red Devils want to sign Marchisio in a player plus cash deal.

Manchester United are ready to offer Nani in part exchange for Juventus’ Claudio Marchisio after the midfielder hinted he was unhappy with the Serie A club.

Marchisio is currently on international duty with Italy at the Confederations Cup but said he may consider a move on his return from Brazil.

“I will have to talk to Juventus. I want to see if I’m still important for them. If not, then it is only normal for me to look at other teams. It has been said that my intentions are decisive, but it takes two to tango,” the 27-year-old told Football Italia.

Reports in Italy on Saturday have suggested that Juve have not responded to the player’s comments and are unwilling to hand Marchisio the pay rise he desires.

The central midfielder came through the club’s academy in Turin but is now likely to leave his hometown in search of a new employer.

The Scudetto winners value the left-footer at close to €30m however, meaning Man United boss David Moyes is likely to offer unwanted winger Nani in part-exchange.

The former Sporting star has attracted interest from Juventus in the past and is almost certain to leave Old Trafford this summer after reaching stalemate in contract negotiations with the club.

The Red Devils reportedly valued Nani at around £8.5m.
 
Its been widely reported because of Marchisio naming us in the interview. The media knows we're very likely to sell Nani so they've just added the 2 together.
 
Juve showed some interest in Nani last year too - didn't they?

Marchisio isn't a bad player. If Nani wants to leave we could do worse, I suppose.

Then again, an on-fire Nani (and in theory he could get a real boost under a new manager, etc, etc) in exchange for Marchisio and - what? - twenty mill...doesn't sound like the deal of the decade.
 
Manchester United ace fails to agree terms
Manchester United winger Nani has failed to agree a new contract with the club, according to the Telegraph.
The 26-year-old is entering his final year in his contract with the Premier League champions, and hasn’t been able to agree a new deal with the club.
This has opened the door for both Juventus and Monaco, who have been linked with the Portuguese winger over recent months.
Nani featured in just 11 league matches this season, as he fell down the United pecking order. And after Wilfred Zaha’s loan spell at Crystal Palace expired in May, another player has come in to threaten Nani’s future at the club.
United are expected to accept any offer for the winger in the region of £8.5million, which has out priced Galatasaray, who have also tried to sign the former Sporting Lisbon speedster.
The Turkish club are reluctant to meet United’s valuation of the winger, meaning that Serie A champions Juventus and high spending Monaco are in pole position to sign him.
Nani joined Manchester United in 2007, when the Red Devils paid Sporting Lisbon £17million for the Portuguese man’s services. But now David Moyes’ new club are ready to lose Nani for just half their buying price.
Should Nani join Juventus? Or should he be another big signing for Monaco?
Share your thoughts below!
 
Why are Italy in the confederations cup? Runners up price because Spain won both World cup and Euros?
 
His is an interesting situation. I think he's a very good player, but not at the level the likes of Hectic & Cina see him as being at. With a year left on his deal and at a stage when he should be approaching his peak, If the clubs mentioned so far are accurate, it's probably fair to say none of the world's top clubs are in for him, which begs the question 'why not?' How often do you see so many top clubs turn down a genuinely world class player who would probably cost less than £10m?
 
His is an interesting situation. I think he's a very good player, but not at the level the likes of Hectic & Cina see him as being at. With a year left on his deal and at a stage when he should be approaching his peak, If the clubs mentioned so far are accurate, it's probably fair to say none of the world's top clubs are in for him, which begs the question 'why not?' How often do you see so many top clubs turn down a genuinely world class player who would probably cost less than £10m?


I doubt anybody thinks the current Nani is genuinely world-class. Like current Valencia there is nothing there except 100% wishes of them returning to former glory. Paying 10 mill for a player like that is something only a rare few teams could do - and all those teams would bench them and let them grow in to form from the sidelines.

That of course just re-creates the problem United has with them but at a different club. It doesn't make them less attractive when the greatest manager of all time, Sir Alex, has failed managing them.

Of course there are some of these clubs who have too much money and not really that much skill in the team. But those are the ones Nani doesn't seem to want to join anyhow as he asks for really high wages there.
 
Just give him the wages as Young and let's move forward
 
His is an interesting situation. I think he's a very good player, but not at the level the likes of Hectic & Cina see him as being at. With a year left on his deal and at a stage when he should be approaching his peak, If the clubs mentioned so far are accurate, it's probably fair to say none of the world's top clubs are in for him, which begs the question 'why not?' How often do you see so many top clubs turn down a genuinely world class player who would probably cost less than £10m?

Good player? There's a reason Hectic and Cena rate him highly. Nani is a great player and was consistent in 10/11 and 11/12. Last season shouldn't be used as a barometer for judging his overall ability. When he got a run of games (Reading, Fulham, QPR, Real Madrid, Chelsea, etc.), he produced some very good displays. He's a great player, but he was inconsistent last season, and I'd blame contract talks and his weak mentality for the performances we witnessed in the first half of the season.
 
Good player? There's a reason Hectic and Cena rate him highly. Nani is a great player and was consistent in 10/11 and 11/12. Last season shouldn't be used as a barometer for judging his overall ability. When he got a run of games (Reading, Fulham, QPR, Real Madrid, Chelsea, etc.), he produced some very good displays. He's a great player, but he was inconsistent last season, and I'd blame contract talks and his weak mentality for the performances we witnessed in the first half of the season.


It's like people have such a short memory and still keep calling him inconsistent. I've realised fans see what they want to see in regards to certain players. Nani was one of 5-10 best players in the league before this season and he was injured and had a few poor performances. It is a hard position for him to negotiate from, but if the wages he wants are reportedly true then we will regret losing him for so cheap. A player of his quality needs to be replaced and it won't be cheap. On the flipside he put in a few bright performances also and for some reason Fergie relegated him to the bench and when he played again against Arsenal he was bright.
 
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