Nani was booed by the United crowd last season.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Nani was booed by the United crowd last season.
And your argument is?
That he's not just targeted by people on RedCafe and social media, obviously.
No way does Valencia get half the BS that Nani or Cleverly get from the OT crowds.
Why do you think that might be?
Enlighten us. Nani has been just as good as Valencia for us, if not better.
I don't understand fans booing any of their own players... Nani and Rooney are two players I'm not crazy about. Great talents but their temperament and application is questionable..
However I have never booed a united player at old Trafford and don't think I ever will..
It's stupid and serves no positive benefit for the team.. If a strong united manager thinks they are good enough they will play the player whether or not the crows are getting on their back...
However I have never booed a united player at old Trafford and don't think I ever will..
It's stupid and serves no positive benefit for the team.. If a strong united manager thinks they are good enough they will play the player whether or not the crows are getting on their back...
Like most long threads on here this discussion is ludicrously circular. The reasons for fans (at United and at his former club) being regularly audibly frustrated by Nani have been discussed to death on previous pages. Have a read of them, if you can't come up with any reasons of your own. Although I reckon you can, if you take a moment to think about it.
His comments were about almost half the squad of our players were slated by not minority of the fans which might be the reason that we land at 7th. How OBVIOUS was that when you mention Nani was booed only a one time off, in which I see no connection to his claim.
Are you really that arrogant? You'll sarcastically ridicule someone for holding a pretty uncontroversial view, but you won't even spend 30 seconds explaining why you think his view is so ridiculous?
I apologize. With this being the Nani thread, I assumed we were talking about Nani, and that you were telling him not to confuse the anti-Nani brigade on the web with the match-going crowd. My bad.
(By the way, this isn't a sarcastic post, just to be clear).
What an up yourself post, this is a forum, where people discuss things. Your view isn't a fact.
Also, on subject: Would as many people be as frustrated if they didn't themselves perceive his ceiling to be so high?
We the English love a trier and Valencia looks like he is trying and its just not working out for him. Everytime Nani slows the ball down and takes his time to beat a person or look for a pass the crowd losses patience with him. It seems they would rather he tried to cross and failed 5 times in a row rather than take his time.
I think that's another consequence of not having a brain that works as fast as his feet. You're right, he often does receive the ball and instantly all pace and speed is taken out of our game. We could be attacking with gusto and the ball does to Nani and he'll just stand there with it for three or for seconds meaning that any man-over advantage we may have had on the break is gone as the opposition have then had the chance to get back to cover.
It's a catch-22 situation. When he doesn't slow down to think his deliveries are often quite wild and inaccurate and when he does it takes too long to be of much practical use.
Arrogant? Sarcastic ridicule? Absolutely no idea how you got any of that from what I said. What a strange, paranoid post.
His obvious work ethic work definitely works in his favour, when it comes to perception from the fans. That and the way he never used to make really obvious bad decisions in the final third. Nothing more frustrating for a fan than watching a good attack break down because someone ignores/doesn't see a really obvious pass.
Of course, in the last season or two Valencia's deteriorated to the point where he is now regularly doing that sort of thing. Which creates audible dissatisfaction in the stands. Especially last season, where he got as much stick as any other United player, in terms of gasps/groans when he wastes a good situation. The main difference being that he did nothing as obviously inflammatory as Nani walking off the pitch when we were a goal down, so never got outright boos.
Another strange post. I didn't even offer a view. Just suggested he read the views of others.
No.
Which partially answers my question from a few posts further up.
Basically not all footballers are equal.
I expect better from Nani than he usually shows...and i expect even more from Rooney.
I expect better from Nani than he usually shows...and i expect even more from Rooney.
It wasn't strange at all, he offered an opinion at which you responded "The reasons for fans being regularly audibly frustrated by Nani have been discussed to death on previous pages. Have a read of them, if you can't come up with any reasons of your own. Although I reckon you can, if you take a moment to think about it."
That is sarcastic, and you did instruct him to have a read of previous pages as you have decided the subject had been done to death, I'm not trying to hammer on at all as I realise it derails the thread, but he was trying to start a discussion when you basically said, it's been done, move on, hence why I labelled your post arrogant.
a) I wasn't being sarcastic.The exact issue had been discussed over the past few pages of the thread. I dislike mega-threads in general but there's nothing wrong with suggesting referring back to previous/recent posts. It saves people posting the exact same stuff again and again and again. Like I said, though, I'm sure he could have come up with some good reasons anyway, without asking me to "enlighten" him. It's not hard to work out why Nani winds a lot of fans up.
b) The "strange" part of your post was your implication that I thought my view was a fact
c) Yes, this is derailing the thread, so I'll leave it here.
Just saw this is actually his first World Cup, I know he missed the last one because of injury, but for some reason I was convinced he played in 2006.
Looking forward to watching him for Portugal. Like all United players, I'm hoping he starts with a clean slate unde Van Gaal and makes a good impression on him at the WC.
Was hoping the same about Kagawa but that's not gone well so far. I've got Germany in the office sweepstake but would sacrifice bragging rights/winnings for a really good tournament from a United player, starting now.
Was hoping the same about Kagawa but that's not gone well so far. I've got Germany in the office sweepstake but would sacrifice bragging rights/winnings for a really good tournament from a United player, starting now.
The shot over the bar was decent, gone past a man a few times, made a horrible mess of one promising break; overall first half performance merely ok.
He's been ok. Portugal had a calamitous first half and Nani was the least disappointing of their players.
Whatever Nani once had, he's lost it.
He's a grown man, nearly 28. Why does he have a star shaved into his hair? The guy is a clown.
A bit petty ?
I actually think he's playing reasonably well, he's been jinking past Germany defenders at times. Given he has 2 years of Football to catch up on and he is going up against probably the best defence in world football I think he's done.
He's been one of their better players. Has probably outperformed the world player of the year today.
I was referring to his footballing talents, which have declined considerably. But you're right, a man of his age should desperately avoid shaving stars in his hair.
He's been Portugals best player quite easily, dunno what people are expecting him to do. Gone on quite a few good dribbles, passed it okay and had decent attempts. He's had a few poor decisions, but he's also been their only threat. Portugals midfield has been awful today, Eder & Almeida are Championship players. Don't know why Ronaldo has been battered aswell, he's never been a player to dominate a match. He's done okay I think, especially for someone playing nowhere near fit. Some people are mental for slating players regardless of performances...
He's played reasonably well, especially when you consider how little football he's played.
Another bad performance from him. Had a decent shot in first half, but mostly looked lost, out of place. Could not deliver when he had the ball in the quick breaks Portugal had.
I say we need to sell him, he may have something left. but it is evident Old Trafford is not a place for him to show it anymore. He needs a fresh start as much as we need new faces.
I say we need to sell him, he may have something left. but it is evident Old Trafford is not a place for him to show it anymore. He needs a fresh start as much as we need new faces.
He played pretty much as midfielder in second half(something between left winger and attacking/central midfielder) and actually had more than decent half, passed it quite well and was very disciplined defensively. One of the best Portugal players today if not the best.
Had a few brain fart moments but other than that he was probably Portugal's most threatening player.
Based on one performance where his entire team were awful? Interesting.
He was alright, better than Ronaldo today, and more threatening.
Don't know what it is with football fans and hate for Nani. It seems like it's pre-determined, they have things to sook about already ready, regardless of how he is actually playing?
He was Portugal's best player in the second half. How about the supposed "best player in the world" who was absolute shite and did nothing all game but have a whinge. A player who hasn't played football all season from injury has been more lively than the supposed best player in the world.
It's ridiculous, Nani was shit, Ronaldo was shit. The whole Portugese team was shit. No-one should have the finger pointed at them.
No, based on last two years. You think he needs more? as someone already said the guy is 28 if he can't sort himself out, MU is hardly a care facility. I think the same about Anderson. Sometimes you just need to let player go, even if he can be a decent, even a good player.
He's made all of 22 league appearances in two years, at least one of which was blighted by injury, and under David Moyes. I know its the current, hipsterish fad of the moment to draw attention to oneself by criticizing Nani, but we really need to look at the squad as a whole rather than fixating on FM fantasies of moving this or that player. I'm sure Van Gaal will make the right decision on who to sell and who to keep.
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