I've never thought I'd come to this point as he does frustrate me to the heavens but we need him back asap. He could play with a strained hammy and still be better than val and young.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Interesting bit in the Guardian article:
What an unbelievably shite post.
In an elite group of players who get better when they play lesser.
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Rule of thumb: Nani gets better and better by CaF posters the longer he doesn't step onto the football pitch, invariably when he does, the majority soon recall just how frustrating and inconsistent he is, resulting in moments such as him being booed off at OT against Stoke.
At this point, I, personally, don't want to see him involved anylonger, hes far too hot and cold, and his moments of producing excellence are far outweighed by his poor outings, even if he is more talented than the likes of Valencia and Young in the short term, he's still not someone I'd like to include in progressive future planning of the squad.
At this point, I, personally, don't want to see him involved anylonger, hes far too hot and cold, and his moments of producing excellence are far outweighed by his poor outings, even if he is more talented than the likes of Valencia and Young in the short term, he's still not someone I'd like to include in progressive future planning of the squad.
Cut losses get rid. Why keep a player that the manager doesn't want to play.
Do we have any idea when he will be available again? Anything is better than Valencia right now.
Yeah, that's a real mystery.
Apparently plays there for his country, neat and tidy short passer, strong in the tackle and - unlike almost every other CM in our squad - can run with the ball.
For all his fatness/shitness, Anderson gives us something different in midfield because he runs with the ball. He's arguably been involved in all our most fluid and exciting attacking football over the last 2 or 3 years. Seeing as he has the stamina of a may-fly and no idea how to get a consistent weigh on his passes it really is strange that Valencia has never once been given a crack at his position.
A Valencia-Rooney midfield two 
Few little things I noticed...
On his future....
On his availability/injury....
Also, for those asking when Nani is back, there isn't an official confirmed date, I would assume it would have something to do with the above, should there be any truth in it. However, if we try and look it logically, we know Nani is out with a Hamstring injury that he sustained around 7th December 2013. Obviously a lot will depend on exactly what damage is done/when they want to re-introduce him and are confident of it not just flaring up again, the average hamstring takes someone 6-10 weeks to recover from, Nani has now been injured for 12 weeks on Saturday, make of that what you will.
On his future....
On his availability/injury....
Also, for those asking when Nani is back, there isn't an official confirmed date, I would assume it would have something to do with the above, should there be any truth in it. However, if we try and look it logically, we know Nani is out with a Hamstring injury that he sustained around 7th December 2013. Obviously a lot will depend on exactly what damage is done/when they want to re-introduce him and are confident of it not just flaring up again, the average hamstring takes someone 6-10 weeks to recover from, Nani has now been injured for 12 weeks on Saturday, make of that what you will.
Tony V would be a beast in cm, him, the Jones and kag in a mid 3 with rooney mata am and RVP up front. More chance of Moye psicking Osman though.
So do we think he's gone in the summer?
He's been out for three months (?) now. Moyes said that he'd be back around this time I think.
He's been out for three months (?) now. Moyes said that he'd be back around this time I think.
Shame that hailed as our "best" transfer window ever will turn out to be our worst. Sure there is a message there somewhere.
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http://www.bet365.com/news/en/betting/football/nani-to-return-to-training?
No quotes but it would be decent to have him back.
No quotes but it would be decent to have him back.
Good news if true. Even though I doubt Moyes would know what to do with him.
You just couldn't resist could you?
I'd prefer it if we replaced him in the summer but there's no way having another alternative to Valencia and Young for the rest of the season is a bad thing.
"Now you stay out there, out near the line and whip in crosses, aye?"
haha this, but it's the same with every player really. Or, basically, whoever Moyes selects, it's the wrong decision. If Moyes was picking Nani people would say we should be putting Valencia in, he was one of the best wingers in the league two seasons ago and if he gets a consistent run of games he will be great again, but Moyes is too 'cowardly' to give Valencia the run of games.
Suddenly Kagawa is a world beater again since we've signed Mata, even though he was next to anonymous when he was getting games before christmas.
Nani has absolutely been infuriating for years, but as SAF seemed to always say, nostalgia plays tricks in football
Anything that gives the slight hope of no more Valencia is a bonus to me.
If Nani returns to form next year, it will be (you guessed it) like a brand new signing.
I wonder how many times that has been said....
He has showed enough quality to keep him in the squad, doesnt necessarily have to start
If Nani returns to his best form it's like winning the lottery, not going to happen sadly. Sell now and improve in the summer.
If he gets a chance to start alongside Rooney, Mata, and RVP in a front four, he's gonna shine. Just hope Moyes gives him the platform to shine.
It would be a welcome change if he stays fit and Moyes can get the best out of him.
I don't know about you guys, but the only time I've really been annoyed of watching Nani play was during the second half of the 2008/09 season and the first half of the 2009/10 season, when he was almost as useless as Young was down that left wing as a traditional left winger. At all other times, however, I haven't been annoyed by his performances, otherwise (even with his supposed decision-making issues during the 2010/11 season; plus, pleased and not annoyed are two different things).
Honestly, every time I see Nani play, I feel more assured whenever we are on the attack as, to me, he always makes good use of the ball. He is unlike Young, Valencia, and even Evra in that he doesn't just do one thing over and over again just because he's instructed to do so. Nani's movement has also been really good and provides us with many different options, movement that is nonexistent in Valencia and Young, at the moment.
His injury-proneness is a definite cause of concern, though. If he can't string a run of games, then he'll never get into good form. Playing here and there isn't good for him and for us. He needs a consistent run of games to come out good. If he doesn't get those consistent run of games, he's not that useful for us.
Honestly, every time I see Nani play, I feel more assured whenever we are on the attack as, to me, he always makes good use of the ball. He is unlike Young, Valencia, and even Evra in that he doesn't just do one thing over and over again just because he's instructed to do so. Nani's movement has also been really good and provides us with many different options, movement that is nonexistent in Valencia and Young, at the moment.
His injury-proneness is a definite cause of concern, though. If he can't string a run of games, then he'll never get into good form. Playing here and there isn't good for him and for us. He needs a consistent run of games to come out good. If he doesn't get those consistent run of games, he's not that useful for us.
If Januzaj is going to get protected for what appears to be no apparent reason any more, I'd rather we were using Nani over them other two wastes of space.
But why bother speculating what might happen. Unfortunately he is THE boom-bust player in this squad. We know exactly what will happen.
But why bother speculating what might happen. Unfortunately he is THE boom-bust player in this squad. We know exactly what will happen.
I Really do wonder about Nani. How bad must he have done his hamstring to be out this long?.
People heal broken bones quicker than Nani heals hamstrings
People heal broken bones quicker than Nani heals hamstrings
Leaving injuries aside, I think Nani still has a role in this side. The problem is that, on the evidence of what we've seen this season, he just does not look like the kind of player Moyes wants to play. Since he's under contract and has, on balance, been more good than bad, we should get some decent money in for him. So I think he'll go.
What makes you say that Bish? He loves playing pacy wide players, couldnt Nani come in on the Young / Valencia rotation?
I've been saying for a while he has been out much longer than his injury suggested, so was already due back, good news if true, gives us a lot more options up top...
Valencia Januzaj Mata
RVP
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Nani Kagawa Young
Rooney
RVP
or
Nani Kagawa Young
Rooney
It's a strange accusation tbh.
Valencia and Young aside, what does Januzaj bring to the table that Nani doesn't? (on a good day, anyway)
A bucket of Nandos?
Boom. I'll set em' up and you put 'em away...
Nani is still being discussed?
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Yeah what's the point in discussing a Manchester United player. Players never come back from medium to long term injuries. We haven't seen him now for, what, almost 3 months? That's practically an eternity. I'm surprised anyone even remembers he exists. I can't really remember anything from 3 months ago. I think it was sort of cold? And maybe there was some football played, or something? Sorry, what we were talking about again? Oh yes, Moyes. Bloody Moyes.
Hey did anyone read that article linking us to Arteta? I think we need a new winger myself. It feels like we're one winger short. Didn't we used to have more wingers? Wasn't there some flashy Portugese guy used to play here? Anyone remember his name? Might have been a while ago now.
Nani to reignite our charge to 4th place?
Anyone? Anyone?
Alright 6th place, lets be more realistic then...
Anyone? Anyone?
Alright 6th place, lets be more realistic then...
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Thank you for that.
Nani is the answer to our dilemma. He will reignite our season and return us to the mantle that we so rightly deserve.
Damn Davis Moyes for tolerating the whole one good game, nine bad game syndrome. Oh, of course...Nani has been injured! That's why he ain't playing toyally amazing. How foolish of me.
I couldn't be bothered quoting the list of his seemingly close to impeccable United record. I fought Nani's side for years (on this forum, in the pubs and at Old Trafford). Obviously he has some god given talent. Unfortunately, he is unable to display it for longer than a game or two. Why is it that because he is apparently back from the longest injury layoff in history, all of a sudden he is like a new signing? He was shocking before injury and I expect the same now. I wish he could play like I had argued he can on a regular basis but, if this is something that people will now argue - we are grasping at straws.
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