Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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Nani hasn't been making any public statements, but it has been clear for quite some time that the reason he has not signed a new contract is because he wants more money. You don't leave United to go to Turkey for anything else. There were reports around this time last year that he was demanding £130,000/week. I don't have any particular liking for Rooney, but in both the instances, it is the club which made public his desire to leave, although his agent may have leaked certain stories, but then, every agent does. Nani is the best winger we have, and it's a pity we won't even get £10m for him, but it says more about the state of our wings currently than the quality of Nani. He has always been talented, and had shown glimpses of playing at a consistent level, but hasn't done that sadly.


This doesn't make sense purely for the fact that he apparently turned down a move to Monaco in favour of Gala, must be the dumbest mercenary on earth!
 
No it was previously reported that he had chosen Gala over Monaco.

Nani's agent Jorge Mendez has been working extensively with Monaco in the past few weeks in terms of players taken there, hence it was thought he would go there in the first place but Nani chose Galatasaray over Monaco's money, presumably because Gala are in the CL.
 
Imagine Nani's world. Rooney is on a 250k/w (according to reports), Ronaldo have figures like 300k/w flying around him, Moutinho, Hulk, Falcao, Rodriques and some other Brazilian guy is reported to have insane selling fee's, probably good salary's too. In good old England he probably heard about the salary's of Mata, Hazard, Silva and Yaya. In his own team guys like Young is probably teasing him, maybe some other players too. You know how it works, young men brags to tease each other, happens everywhere. Then every agent worth his salt tries to boost their clients ego and sooner or later Nani feels the pressure to land a mega contract like everybody else. All this create problems for a young man with his background. Going from poor to rich isn't easy, I have seen this several times in my own little world. I don't think it's all about money, he want's recognition and to get a pay rise is to be valued for his talent and contribution.

In the end I think he will stay. United will increase their offer a little bit and Nani/Mendez will accept, because other options are probably worse.
 
No it was previously reported that he had chosen Gala over Monaco.

Nani's agent Jorge Mendez has been working extensively with Monaco in the past few weeks in terms of players taken there, hence it was thought he would go there in the first place but Nani chose Galatasaray over Monaco's money, presumably because Gala are in the CL.

Link?

Nothing on the Utd website about Nani choosing to join Galatasaray....
 
Are those quotes of Galatasaray's chairman that we want 10m EUR for Nani genuine? If yes, this is truly shocking. Better to use him this year and let him go on free than selling him for so low.
 
He hasn't chosen anything yet.

Link?

Nothing on the Utd website about Nani choosing to join Galatasaray....


Nope but it is largely believed that he chose Galatasaray over Monaco, last week there was speculation that it was between the two now it's solely about Galatasaray.

And don't be silly, the United website doesn't report everything so why would it be on there?
 
We seriously only want £8.5M for Nani?

Has the football World gone mad? :wenger:


Well if you believe that article then Galatasary only came in willing to pay 6mil for him, so that says something. Either they have no money left or the fact that he has not been consistent for us and his contract is running out is driving his price way down.
 
Nope but it is largely believed that he chose Galatasaray over Monaco, last week there was speculation that it was between the two now it's solely about Galatasaray.

And don't be silly, the United website doesn't report everything so why would it be on there?

You made it sound like it was concrete so I thought the Utd site would have it.

Don't say things like 'Nani chose Galatasaray' unless you have a link to back it up.
 
You made it sound like it was concrete so I thought the Utd site would have it.

Don't say things like 'Nani chose Galatasaray' unless you have a link to back it up.

Most of the last thirty odd posts are based on nothing more substantial than a fart out of some hacks arse.
 
Galatasaray are offering 6m and going public with it, might suggest they've already agreed terms with Nani and maybe the size of the player's contract necessitates such a small fee.
 
We might as well keep him for that much, in all honesty we know what he can do I would rather he helped us this season and eased Zaha's transition into the team than go for that little. It will cost that 6 million plus 15-20 million more to get comparable talent in. That player will want big wages. Seems a waste. The truth will come out when he leaves it always does. It's a shame I like him. Think at times fans wanted a Ronaldo 2.0 and they are different players.
 
Swap him for Sneijder.

Seriously, though - given how much of this debate (and others like it) revolves around figures (how much does Ashley bloody Young actually rake in per week?), I more than second Neville's suggestion: Make the salaries public knowledge. Make all transfer fees and agent's cuts (not least) public knowledge. In the interest of transparency (as was Gaz' point) and in the interest of helping muppets like us discuss matters based on something more than air and whispers.

Six mill sounds ridiculous at any rate. I thought Gala had a bit of money to burn.
 
I'd rather keep him and let him go on a free next summer than let him go for pennies now. Either way I can't see us bringing anyone in better to replace him and we all know what he can do. I'd rather trust him and let him start the season and see how he does.
 
I don't see anything wrong with players want more money. For a big club like United, they could afford to match almost all others offer, if they want to. To club, players are just investment; and if they can't keep up with maintenance cost, don't act like a broken heart teenager when the investment start deteriorating in value.
 
If Moyes wants him Nani would be daft to go. It's a fresh start for him here now with the chance to establish himself as a key player in the side.

Much as I'd like this to be true, if he was properly on his way out under SAF (which is questionable, if only because of him starting against Madrid), then I wouldn't expect that to change under Moyes.

Much as I'm sure both of them know that in that going forwards decisions need to be Moyes's, they be mad not to do a very detailed "hand over" on the current state of play, part of which would naturally be SAF's full thinking on the current Nani situation. And to be honest, if you're Moyes and you're smart, at this point you go with SAF's thinking on this stuff unless you have a very strong reason not to.
 
You made it sound like it was concrete so I thought the Utd site would have it.

Don't say things like 'Nani chose Galatasaray' unless you have a link to back it up.


The same way there was a link to Zaha picking United over Arsenal, a lot of transfer stuff is things that journos know but can't put in print so they pass on and it filters out.

I don't need (to provide you with) a link, I have faith in what I'm saying otherwise I wouldn't post it
 
Did I miss something in the past six months? How did Nani go from a 30m superstar sought after by the likes of Barca, to 6m between Galatasaray and some french QPR ??
 
Did I miss something in the past six months? How did Nani go from a 30m superstar sought after by the likes of Barca, to 6m between Galatasaray and some french QPR ??

In that case, I'm guessing it was 6 months ago you missed something, not just now.
 
According to Goal.com, Manchester United have rejected Galatasaray’s £6 million bid for Portuguese winger Nani.
The 26-year-old has been linked with a move away from Old Trafford for several months with his contract set to expire next summer, where he could then leave on a free transfer. Despite this, United have rejected a £6 million bid from Turkish giants Galatasaray but the club have reportedly suggested they would accept an offer of around £8.5 million.
Nani signed for The Red Devils in 2007 and despite his increasingly inconsistent form, he has still attracted regular interest from several of Europe’s biggest teams, including big-spenders Monaco.
Galatasaray chairman Unal Aysal confirmed that they have made a bid for Nani, but were unsuccessful:
We offered 7 million euros (£6m) for him. But they didn’t accept. We can’t give more than this.”
He added:
“We are not going to follow Nani anymore. We can’t give more than 7 million euros for him. They want 10 million euros (£8.5m). Because of this he is not on our transfer list anymore.” :lol:
Nani has been part of several trophy-winning United sides, lifting the Premier League title on four occasions, the League Cup in 2008 as well as the Champions League in Moscow 2008.
Whilst United’s number 17 has had a lot of success at the club, his recent disappointing performances as well as the frustration with a lack of desire has led many fans to question Nani’s status at the club.
 
The same way there was a link to Zaha picking United over Arsenal, a lot of transfer stuff is things that journos know but can't put in print so they pass on and it filters out.

I don't need (to provide you with) a link, I have faith in what I'm saying otherwise I wouldn't post it

I have faith in what I say when I say you're posting a whole load of unsubstantiated rubbish.
 
We would pay 17m plus whatever salary for Young but, only ask for half the amount for Nani? If that's really the case then the club really boggles my mind sometimes.
 
I can't believe we're only asking for about 8mil :wenger:
 
I can't believe we're only asking for about 8mil :wenger:


How do you feel about the fact that Galatasary the only club that seems to have admitted interest (if the reports and quotes are true) wanted to pay even less than that?

I mean people in this thread keep going on about how much we are asking, but the only confirmed (again if the reports are true) interest we have seen the club in question was offering LESS than we want. What does that say about the player in question and the situation he is in in terms of his contract, playing time, quality, etc?
 
How do you feel about the fact that Galatasary the only club that seems to have admitted interest (if the reports and quotes are true) wanted to pay even less than that?

I mean people in this thread keep going on about how much we are asking, but the only confirmed (again if the reports are true) interest we have seen the club in question was offering LESS than we want. What does that say about the player in question and the situation he is in in terms of his contract, playing time, quality, etc?

I suspect, like with Zenit last season, his high wage demands are the reason more aren't interested.
 
How do you feel about the fact that Galatasary the only club that seems to have admitted interest (if the reports and quotes are true) wanted to pay even less than that?

I mean people in this thread keep going on about how much we are asking, but the only confirmed (again if the reports are true) interest we have seen the club in question was offering LESS than we want. What does that say about the player in question and the situation he is in in terms of his contract, playing time, quality, etc?

We all know what Nani is capable of doing on the pitch. When he's on his game, mark that, he's a bloody outstanding footballer and a match winner. For me, he's got far more about him than Young and Valencia but his inability to perform on a consistent basic is the bit that irks; not that the other two can be described as consistent either. Maybe Moyes can get things sorted with Nani and he can start again with a clean slate.
 
We all know what Nani is capable of doing on the pitch. When he's on his game, mark that, he's a bloody outstanding footballer and a match winner. For me, he's got far more about him than Young and Valencia but his inability to perform on a consistent basic is the bit that irks; not that the other two can be described as consistent either. Maybe Moyes can get things sorted with Nani and he can start again with a clean slate.

That's not his own fault entirely. I always had the impression that SAF had never given him a proper chance and the trust he needs.
 
That's not his own fault entirely. I always had the impression that SAF had never given him a proper chance and the trust he needs.

Well there were also issues like these that kept him out at times,some for a few games others longer. Almost 3 months lost during this past season.

Sidelined

DescriptionStart DateEnd Date
Hamstring 10/03/13 28/03/13
Hamstring 07/11/12 14/01/13
Ankle/Foot Injury 08/03/12 09/04/12
Calf/Shin Injury 04/03/11 13/03/11
Groin Strain 02/11/10 10/11/10
Broken Collarbone 03/06/10 31/07/10
Shoulder Injury 08/06/10 09/06/10
Suspended 09/02/10 27/02/10
Ankle/Foot Injury 08/12/09 14/01/10


He also has around 200 appearances with United also, difficult to say he was not given chances 200 games is quite a lot of chances.
 
And in the seasons prior to the past one - he has been worthy of chances. It took him a little to get there but, once he got a run of games he delivered for a good period of time. Then this season coupled with injury, some fascination with Valencia which perhaps was because of contract re-signing dispute that saw him frozen out - he wasn't given a real chance to lay claim to a regular first team place.

I do think his "inconsistency" due to the type of player he is has counted against him in the eyes of Fergie. He isn't on the same level as Ronaldo, so has not been able to get away with some of the wrong choices he makes. You had to be something really extra special to Fergie for that to happen. I do think though Nani is a special enough talent to allow for us to let him make the wrong choices. He does it a lot less now - still does it but, maybe 2-3 times a game if that.
 
I've asked many this, but I'm still yet to find a viable answer. Many people said that Nani was poor or inconsistent in 11/12, the season before last, but I don't know how anyone can take this view. He was arguably our best player in the first half of the season, he produced a great performance vs. Basel, only for Rooney to miss a great chance. The worst game he had was definitely against Manchester City in the 1-6 defeat, where Clichy was defensively alert. In the second half of the season (at the start), he was decent. Against Wigan, he played in a more central role and looked good - I remember the Caf loving the way he played. He ripped Djourou apart vs. Arsenal in our 1-2 at the Emirates, though his decision making was awful. And then he picked up an injury in this game which more or less "ended his season". He came back vs. Aston Villa and scored. He produced a very good display vs. Everton in the 4-4. He scored 10 goals and had 14 assists. If that's what inconsistency is, I'm baffled. He was inconsistent last season, but you can tell his mentality wasn't at its finest. We should be looking at £20m if we want to sell him, which is fairly realistic. I look at every other winger in the world and every single one of them is inconsistent. It's really hard to appease fans, especially in the system we implement I believe.
 
People calling him inconsistent having got a clue imo. He is coming off an injury hit season where he was in and out of the squad and has out in a few good games showing what he can do. 8 million is a joke he is not a player with bad attitude we should give him a chance, unless Moyes has players he wants to get though I doubt 8 million will cost a lot. Before we sell Nani we should make sure we get comparable quality in. Young, Valencia and Zahah are not a good enough group.
 
People calling him inconsistent having got a clue imo. He is coming off an injury hit season where he was in and out of the squad and has out in a few good games showing what he can do. 8 million is a joke he is not a player with bad attitude we should give him a chance, unless Moyes has players he wants to get though I doubt 8 million will cost a lot. Before we sell Nani we should make sure we get comparable quality in. Young, Valencia and Zahah are not a good enough group.
Agreed. Remember that great goal against City.... Only Rooney did one better. Young to me is just a squad member. We need to get consistency from Nani.... He featured against Real and was truly unfortunate to be sent off.
 
Agreed. Remember that great goal against City.... Only Rooney did one better. Young to me is just a squad member. We need to get consistency from Nani.... He featured against Real and was truly unfortunate to be sent off.


When he is playing week in week out he gives you that consistency.
 
When he is playing week in week out he gives you that consistency.


That is the thing that most people fail to realize with Nani. He is a bit like Rooney in that sense, he needs a run of games to reach his heights. Coming of the bench every 5th game doesn't really help him reach his consistency.

Nani is a player you play in your first team or you may as well sell him because the differences in skill between a Nani who gets a consistent run of games compared to the one who is seen as a reserve-player is huge.
 
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