Best player in the league when it comes to taking on a fullback and getting past him.
Luis Nani | 2011/12 Performances
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I think Nani's been below his best in all three Premiership games following a MOTM performance in the Community Shield and a hot pre-season.
Still a fair few good moments in the Spurs and Arsenal games but not at his best and he has been outperformed by Young in the opening three Premiership games.
Not a big criticism as I think alongside Rooney who is just about there, he is the one player we have who could get into the top ten best attacking players in the world, which he is not quite at yet. Massive potential to be realised even following on from last season.
Still a fair few good moments in the Spurs and Arsenal games but not at his best and he has been outperformed by Young in the opening three Premiership games.
Not a big criticism as I think alongside Rooney who is just about there, he is the one player we have who could get into the top ten best attacking players in the world, which he is not quite at yet. Massive potential to be realised even following on from last season.
awful? That was absolute pure magic.
I thought he had a very good game, and was just overshadowed by others, and that chip attempt.
Yes, he'll try a move or two a game that will frustrate a lot of people. But he earns it with his skill on the ball, goals and assists.
He has to be in the team, for me.
His defending is underrated as well, does a great job of playing his part there.
Yes, he'll try a move or two a game that will frustrate a lot of people. But he earns it with his skill on the ball, goals and assists.
He has to be in the team, for me.
His defending is underrated as well, does a great job of playing his part there.
I think he is talking about the before that. He was trying to replicate the goals he scored in his first pre-season tour with us. Chipping the keeper from a difficult angle.
Watched the game live... Nani had only like three piss poor passes where he could have done better...
If Welbeck headed that sitter in... Nani wouldn't have had so much stick.
If Welbeck headed that sitter in... Nani wouldn't have had so much stick.
I think he's on about the failed attempt that Rooney shook his head at him for, not the cheeky finish for his goal.
I'm unashamedly a bit biased towards the lad but he hasn't been at his best so far, certainly been overshadowed by Young and I hope he hits his best form before Valencia comes back. He has still shown how great he is at times in the last 2 games but his "consistency" isn't quite up to the standard of last season. I do agree though that he did have a good game, but just not to the standard of Young or Rooney and a few silly moments overshadowed it a bit. Moments we've been less prone to seeing in the last 2 years.
All he needs is more game time and he'll be back to his best, hopefully.
In the second half? Wasn't that Hernandez?
Which one are you talking about?
Rooney put the chipped cross in for the diving header and Young put in the slide through ball for Welbeck on his left side for the left footed shot.
Anderson's lifted pass created his goal.
Can't recall one coming from Nani out of the three decent chances Welbeck had.
Both Nani and Hernandez did the same thing from more or less the same position with the difference that Chesney caught Hernandez's IIRC.
Nani's chip landed on top of the net and got a stinging look from Rooney who was open for a simple finish.
I thought Hernandez was looking for a lofted pass which gone badly, rather than shoot like Nani.
Very possible. Nani could have been attempting the same to be honest, although it looked more like a goal attempt to me. Both were executed badly.
There were numerous instances when he had the ball on the edge of the box and, rather than give it, he retained possession in an attempt to beat his man and go for goal.
He has so much talent but perhaps he will never be ultra consistent. I imagine the likes of Rooney and Chicharito are more frustrated with Nani than fans!
I also think that when Valencia is fit, the right wing position will be his for the majority of matches ahead.
I also think that when Valencia is fit, the right wing position will be his for the majority of matches ahead.
For me I think that when other players show their class and perform well, he try's to compete by doing silly things. Yet last season bar Rooney he was the main man and he enjoyed being that person, but so far this season he seems to be competing by attempting ridiculous things and it is almost a step backwards for Nani
You know what, I don't mind the ridiculous things so much. But often, Nani seems to screw up a very simple pass or through-ball.
His undoubted talent means we all expect better from him on a consistent basis. He does waste so many opportunities on the right!
At the moment, I think Smalling poses more direct menace running down the right than Nani does!
Despite Young having a more impressive start to the season I think Nani is still the better player obviously
As Hectic said above, Rooney and Nani are on another level to any other attackers we have in terms of their ability (obviously Rooney is better), but consistency is still a big part in it and Nani needs to show it again, because one thing you'll get from Valencia when he's back is consistency, which Fergie has always been a big fan of.
EDIT: Actually you could probably add Giggsy to that bracket too but his age of obviously a hindrance.
EDIT: Actually you could probably add Giggsy to that bracket too but his age of obviously a hindrance.
Anyone else see what Lance is talking about? Watched the match twice now and can't think of any, let alone numerous situations yesterday.
Try looking in the match ratings thread. You will note "selfish" and "frustrating" mentioned on more than one occasion.
I suggest you watch it again.
I've watched it twice and from what I can tell the selfish comments are borne out of one moment in the match. Your statement is that on numerous plays he went looking to score instead of doing something else and I didn't see any other than the 1. Unless it happened in the 5 or 6 min at end of the first half when I lost HD picture. Maybe you can point out to me then which times he went for goal instead of doing something else that was the better option.
Frustrating doesn't necessarily mean selfish - could be picking the wrong pass or not getting his crosses right are more apt when people say he was frustrating. Then again didn't see him make too many of those either yesterday. There was one incident where Rooney played the ball to him just outside the 18 yard box and he went for a quick little flick to try and lose his marker but, lost the ball instead.
My opinion - the ill advised attempt to chip the keeper has clouded some people's view of his contribution yesterday.
It hasn't clouded mine. Unfortunately, short of coming around to your house, putting the match on, and pin pointing the moments that I am talking about, there's not a whole lot more I can do.
Well you are adamant that there were numerous times he went for goal instead of doing something else - surely you can point them out if nothing else.
If you think I am going to watch the match again with a notebook and pen, jotting down the precise minute of each incident....let me compliment you on your sense of humour.
Usually when someone claims a player took numerous selfish options, that person can at least describe more than 1 situation - which you obviously can't do and stands to reason you are full of it.
Me, and the rest of the people who called him selfish, greedy, and frustrating.
It's not my fault if you can't see what others can.
I don't think there were numerous times he selfishly went for goal. There were, however, numerous times he spurned an early pass and slowed things down by trying to beat his man before putting the ball into the box (and in some occasions the defender won the ball off him and made it look even worse).
In saying that, I think it should be noted that a couple of times he did that there was no-one really in a good position, so by slowing things down he gave our other attackers more time to get into the box. Putting the early ball in isn't always the right option.
In saying that, I think it should be noted that a couple of times he did that there was no-one really in a good position, so by slowing things down he gave our other attackers more time to get into the box. Putting the early ball in isn't always the right option.
Me, and the rest of the people who called him selfish, greedy, and frustrating.
It's not my fault if you can't see what others can.
You are the only one who claimed he went for goal multiple times yesterday when he had a better option available. Sorry for calling you out on it and now you can't back your claims other than to say well other people said he was frustrating - yeah that's such proof that he did what you claim
Precisely what I am talking about. I got the distinct impression he had nothing on his mind other than scoring, when he was near the box. Which is why he was trying to beat his man, rather than get it in the box early, or play it simple. If you are intent on crossing in the first place, why the need to beat the defender?
Now be prepared for Shimo to demand that you supply video evidence, the exact time of each incident, and a written report.
Nani had another very good game last night...of course is the best winger in the world
You are the only one who claimed he went for goal multiple times yesterday when he had a better option available. Sorry for calling you out on it and now you can't back your claims other than to say well other people said he was frustrating - yeah that's such proof that he did what you claim
I have already told you, dummy, I am not prepared to watch the match again and make a note of each incident, just because some tool on a messageboard is disputing what I said.
Since me criticising Nani seems to offend you so deeply, I must make a note to do it more often in future.
Well, if there's nobody in position to be on the end of the cross, wasting time to give the other attackers a chance to get into the box is fair enough. I know that happened at least twice against Arsenal. I distinctly remember because both times I started to get pissed off at Nani for being so 'selfish' only to look up and realise that there was no real hope for anybody to win the early cross. Both times there was one attacker coming in on the other side of the box, but he was up against about five Arsenal players. So Nani had the choice of putting in that early cross with very little chance of success, slow play down and give other attackers time to get in there (but possibly lose it as he did a couple of times), or play the ball back to somebody else.
There were definitely times he should have put in the early ball. But I don't think it happened as often as a lot of people think.
For all the flaws (and there were flaws) I thought it was his best performance in a league game this season. Which is good. His goal was the sex too. Made Cheesney look like a mug.
It happened enough times to frustrate me. Still, my "harsh criticism" consisted of me saying I thought he had an off day. Hilariously, that appears to be tantamount to slandering the morals of his mother to some.
I have already told you, dummy, I am not prepared to watch the match again and make a note of each incident, just because some tool on a messageboard is disputing what I said.
Since me criticising Nani seems to offend you so deeply, I must make a note to do it more often in future.
lmao - you that daft that you can't remember one day back that you need to watch the match again to back up your claim. Obviously you can, which is why you've come out well I am not going back to watch the match again because you know your claim was full of shit.
One of his best performances ever. He has been sensational. Before winning the Pen, how determined was his play?! Cutting inside, smashing the bar, following up, I mean, I'm lost for words here.
He's been getting slightly outshined by Young of late but not today. What a player.
He's been getting slightly outshined by Young of late but not today. What a player.
Yep, fecking amazing player.
That was an amazing performance by an amazing winger. He was also actually trying to #stayonhisfeet
He deserved that second goal... not one replay of it either! What a rocket and run.
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